Slaughtahouse

Update: Openbench “case” has arrived! Surprisingly, no duty fees either. I won’t assemble the build yet as I still need an air cooler and SFX PSU but one step closer. I do have an old Xigmatek Dark Knight that maybe could be modded to fit AM4 as a stop gap. TBD.

As long as every enthusiast signed up focuses their knowledge sharing here, the change and growth will naturally happen. I recommend going cold on the other platforms if possible if your objective is to help this site grow. If you're an enthusiast and love to share your experiences or help others, I don't think anyone here or there should judge where you post. We're all trying to reach the same goal (provide resources, knowledge share). I personally don't tinker with my system or spend as much money or time on my hardware as I used to, but I like to chat here with those knowledgeable. It helps me stay informed or alternatively, I can try to advise if someone calls for help (creates a thread looking for support).

I want to believe too but if it's within the microcode or deeper, I'm not so sure what the sensors are reporting and what is being read out by HWiNFO or any software, is correct. Hopefully when the update arrives mid August, we'll get more insights. If I were you, run some stress tests and log it in HWiNFO (export the csv) before and after the microcode update. Take those .CSVs, import it into a freeware like Google Sheets, and visualize it to see the difference.

Intel has unveiled that in 2023, limited production units of 13th gen CPUs were in fact impacted by oxidization issues. Doesn't exclude other factors discussed, alleged by GN's sources but interesting to see how all this pressure has finally made Intel open up. Hope they* set the course right.

Thanks for sharing. Pulling this from the PR quote: incorrect voltage requests to the processor It would be interesting to understand this point more. The level of deviation (average) under different loads. I presume this means any voltage monitoring from software was completely incorrect? As many enthusiasts seem to have instability issues even after lowering voltages from what I've read online.

Ah, you're correct. Email mentions both separate email update once shipped but also includes a separate link. It's in transit now

I appreciate the extra cases linked, thank you! I’m aiming to go quite small so unfortunately most cases, including the ones considered here will not fit ATX. I did do extensive research on the DAN A4-H20 when it released ~2 years ago and it seems to be fairly easy to get. I’ll bookmark it Lian Li A4-H2O Small Case - Mini ITX - Aluminum Exterior & SPCC Steel Interior - PCIe 4.0 - Easy AIO Installation - Supports SFX/SFX-L Power Supply (A4-H2O A4 Silver) : Amazon.ca: Electronics WWW.AMAZON.CA Lian Li A4-H2O Small Case - Mini ITX - Aluminum Exterior & SPCC Steel Interior - PCIe 4.0 - Easy... In other news, or no news, still no confirmation email that the mini itx bench has shipped. I’ll give it a few days before emailing or escalation. I started to draft up a PC part list for anyone interested. It’s really just a means for me to archive and price check. (ITX PHASE 2, 2024). Ignore compatibility. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Slaughtahouse/saved/

Thank you for the context. My PSU knowledge is limited and all based on recommendations from 10 years ago. Whether it was from friends who worked in the hardware industry or Shilka over on OCN. The big caveat that I was aware of was different B2C vendors (Corsair, NZXT, Silverstone etc.) selling different SKUs from different OEMs E.g., my Corsair unit is actually Seasonic. I wasn't sure if that issue was still prevalent where baseline quality could vary a lot between SKU. If Corsair, across the line on SFX is still well regarded, regardless of the OEM, I'll keep my eyes peeled on their SF line.

Noted! I will proceed with caution. I bought this ITX B550I board in 2020 I think... so I've been quite slow with moving to ITX overall I figured if I don't jump in now, I may reconsider sticking with ITX when I go to AM5 (Zen 6? TBD). I'll make a purchase probably once a month (PSU next) to spread cash flow and hopefully, have something to show for it by fall. Worst case scenario, I don't like the test bench as a system case, I keep it as a bench or sell it locally. Terra wouldn't be as easy to sell without taking a loss since it's so easily available and it would just be one more large box cluttering.

Might be too early but... 1. I think any prize you can provide digitally is great. Just makes the competition more accessible. So I appreciate that 2. Maybe a limit of one submission per user? I realize I am a culprit of multiple submissions... XD 3. Continue doing specific themes like you've done so. I think that makes it more unique and don't hesitate to get even more nitty gritty. Like best Intel only build under $600. I'm even open to buying PC Building Simulator for a challenge if need be XD Much more cost effective vs. actually building PCs

Took a chance and ordered a black BC1 Mini V2 along side a power / reset button direct. Seems to cost very similar to Terra but offer more flexibility and functionality. Debated on silver but I think black would be more practical with most components. ETA 7-12 days. Thank you both for your feedback If you know any sites that review SFX PSUs, let me know. I'm a bit rusty and not sure what to look out for / avoid.

Interesting options. Would have to gamble on tariffs / customs but the base Canadian price isn't all bad ($190 to $220 CAD). I wouldn't be moving my PC that often so it's definitely viable. I think I prefer the BC1 as well. Just a thick piece of metal.... Thanks for sharing, haven't seen this before!

Yup that's the case. I'm still not 100% sold on it, however it's one of the highest quality and accessible cases out there. I could walk 30mns or do a short drive to Canada Computers and pick it up for context. I would prefer to procure from them if possible but open to other online retailers like Amazon or Newegg if necessary. If you have other recommendations, I am open to them The only other case that I've ever considered is the NR200 (air version) since it's very versatile and can fit much larger components. The only caveat I have with the NR200 is it's not the highest quality case (steel vs. CNC'd aluminum) and its 18L. If I'm going to make the effort to go to SFF, I'd want to justify going smaller. I love my Fractal Meshify C but I have no space for it on my desk (its 33L), so its on the floor. Going SFF will help give me flexibility to move my PC around and I'm not sure a 18L case is the best call. I also know myself and will try to fit a NHD15 G2 inside because... why not XD RE: GPU, I already underpower it (~300W) and have adjusted the fan curve, so I attest to your recommendation for a quiet mode. Reviews indicate that the Fractal Terra's PCIe riser bracket blocks airflow. GPUs with a fin stack going N/S or Up/down will be impacted. The silver lining is that I will likely swap to a RTX 5070 or RTX 5080, in hope that the GPU has consumes less power (+ newer features etc.). That should give me even more breathing room. It's partially why I bought the Ref 7900 XTX years ago, as it was the highest performing GPU per cubic volume. So in other words, I can accept the impact for now. Do you have any recommendation on PSUs? Regardless when I do the case swap, I am working with a Corsair AX850 from ~2012. So it wouldn't be a bad investment to buy a new PSU sooner than later

Hello, I've had the intention for quite some time to move my components into a small form factor (SFF) case. Unless something new releases or there is a revision, I have my eyes set on the black, Fractal Terra. Due to availability in Canada, size, flexibility, and build quality. Fully aware of the acoustic challenges flagged by Gamers Nexus. My system is almost ready to go into a SFF case besides a few components and mechanical disk drive I'll need to retire, and lastly, my custom loop will need to be sacrificed. To bridge that gap, I know I will need: A SFX PSU Ideally PCIe 5.0 compliant if I go Nvidia (Blackwell) to avoid adapters (more cables) inside a small case. A quiet CPU (air) cooler. My memory (corsair LPX) should be approx. 31mm tall. My GPU (ref 7900 XTX) will drive me to use the Terra's spine setting #3, resulting in 67mm height for the CPU cooler. I'm open to discussing other cases if they're similar quality and easily available in Canada. The challenge is that most of the high quality, SFF cases like the Loque Ghost just aren't accessible or will result in expensive customs / tariffs. Terra seems to hit that look and feel I am after. Thanks! My current setup:

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