ShrimpBrime

Reports of Asus released newer code 0x129.

Not typical consumer side, but using consumer processors with 253w boost capabilities in server environments. I find it very unlikely that the actual CPU failure rates are 50%. There was a company that had complained about HX mobile chips having stability issues. Ect Ect. What I don't see, is how these are actually being tested by the consumers using them to come up with a number of 50% CPU failure rates. So far we have, this outlet said so, therefor it is? Yes there was a batch of 13th gen might of had some corrosion problems, but we don't even know what the Fkn batch numbers are to actually test and conclude this. Just because this guy did a report and a video, doesn't mean he has 50% of failed processors and is actually testing them to confirm these figures. He's just making a video about it and some possibilities. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any actual evidence of failures of 13 and 14th gen processors. 1 person has stood up (just at this forum so far) stating having stability issues. Would it matter if a Desktop cpu is used in the server motherboard? 50% failure rates from B2B consumers ONLY. Or is it all being blown way up out of reality?

It may, or may not help. But if you can confirm the cpu is acltually in good shape, that means you can sell it. I have a couple other chips could send you one. A 12400F that's been beat to death, dry iced up to 5.6ghz and runs fine. Or a 14100F quad core with HT I've run once and did most of the cpu benchmarks. Can't OC the cpu, so you know it's not beat to death haha. But it works, solid little chip. You could test your board with either of those cpus in the mean time. And I would only test in the way you want described for various loads and games. Keeping in mind XMP is OC, I can test with that on or off too. I needed clarification about my own 14700K. It was more than 2x the price of my board. I confirmed it works. Normally. No alterations to bios except memory clocking and a little FSB. Anyways, willing to help. Even if you just want to try the 14100F, I can send it over. It's got less than 5 hours run time on it.

I don't know what you're talking about. Mine works at advertised speeds because the B660-G I'm testing in ONLY allows default speeds. All I gotta do, slap the cpu in and test it. My Z790 MSI board on the other hand with the same processor, update bios and ME runs the cpu like sh¡t. MSI blames Intel. But I agree, users should just run defaults on all systems cause OC is dead for ambient overclockers any ways. Thing of the past.

I would be happy to test the cpu for you. Probably nothing wrong with it....

Ah, maybe I'm just not getting it across the right way? I run the CPU like this. Windows update Perma-Disabled. Before I connected wee-fee. And it seems spotless of defect. Very clean feeling actually. Robust. Happy. B660-G good board. Love me long time. Z790 current ME biopsy and drama video links make no happy happy. But Shrimpy happy happy again. I feel sadly for those without fixage. (insert sad face) Cooling History includes and not limited to DryIce to air cooling. This is air cooled screen shot accurate date time US/CA central. Edit: sry sry I know. The 2 "Unknown devices" are the Management Engine. Thankfully W10 base install is too dumb to know the difference. And I don't plan on any kind of installing me updates that you can dl straight from intel either. Those just going to be unknown devices and shall carry on benching. Now I leave this information here, how Shrimp Recovered from nasty stability issues. Certainly not the processor, I've benched it plenty. The 13700K I sent Scotty is benching between expected 5.7 and 5.8ghz all core and 6.3ghz 2 cores on his chiller. Certainly not effected while I also DryIced that Cpu before he did and chilled it. The gossip is true, the engine is broken. Other than that, the physical cpu seems fine. I dunno. Maybe the cpu is Fked and I just don't know it yet lol. The submission count of my 2 favorite processors of all times.

Bloody hell. People really do eat that * up don't they lol. Listen to HX 1050 fan purr.... * sorry, its a picture. Gts 450.

I know, super hard to believe. But hey, there's the evidence. Questions? Comments?

My 14700K actually tests OK. Using B660-G, initial post with bios 2212 cpu v-core 1.7v. 2.8ghz p-core frequency. No good, immediate flash. Turned it off and immediately flashed to first support release Bios and ME firmware. 2603 version date 6/30/23. ME FW Version 16.1.25.2091 PCH stepping B1. Successful memory frequency 7000mhz Samsung C36 6000mhz sticks with relaxed timings to ensure stability. Vccsa 1.30v Vdimm 1.440v CL 38. Cooling definitely an issue. Running Performance mode. It throttles as expected passing benchmarks even with inadequate cooling, and after several DryIce runs. Bad board and W11 ME firmware can't run the cpu properly. Intel's draw back is making it impossible to roll BACK the Fkn ME firmware. It is stated in several bios releases for my boards that cannot be un-done. Eek. The board I have issues with is MSI Gaming plus wifi Z790. And Current W11 on 980 pro. The cpu won't pass any Cinebench run consistently. 2 of 12 passes maybe the benchmark won't crash. Doesn't matter what settings chosen. It's really bad. I'm glad to be fortunate enough to have a little gear laying around. Was gonna say, I don't recall having any issues until I flashed the MSI bios to the most up to date garbage. I do not recommend the flash. I think on the other hand, the cpu smoked my motherboard and I'm leaving that to a guess. Cause the cpu works fine over here. This took no time to really produce. The people with stability issues will cry. If you have an old board with early firmware, pull it out and should be good to go. Do not update ME software or firmware. Will be benching off-line from here. Happy to not RMA the chip though!! It's going to be interesting to see how Intel works this out. ME is integrated security, not just how the cpu is run.

I find all this hard to believe that the physical processors have actual issues. The ME is probably the main culprit for people's stability issues also noting motherboard manufacturers using incorrect firmware and or uCode. 13700K has been under dry ice and is aged well. Has seen v-core as high as 1.7v and Vccsa as high as 1.5v. It was sent to MrScott and he now uses it. Without issues. 14700K I have is fine too. Also been under dry ice and several times. The only difference between this and a 900 series is mour Atom cores and p core boost clocks. Which the cpu runs fine 16 threads 6.3 to 6.4ghz under DryIce and 1.60v+. I did kill my MSI gaming plus wifi with the 14700K. RMA the board and it's not stable. It shut off and that was that. MSI replaced a cap. Board still shuts off. Called MSI and the tech asked for me to update bios. It worked fine before..... So I updated the bios and the board is super unstable. Having issues even with the simplest overclocks. Put the 14700K into my B660 board and it works great!! No issues. Same OS. Updated ME. No problems. Boosts well, hits 288w like a champ. Wish I had a 14900K, but I don't need extra area effecient cores. They don't get me hard, so aim not paying for the strip tease of SP ratings that only certain Asus boards provide. It's likely a bullshit number. People say it changes on them. Well yes, but when looking at XTU, your fastest starred cores do Not change. Talk that as my opinion here. The fix will be through ME. Intel probably fucked up when releasing ME for next gen. No surprise there, it happens. Me on the other hand get to buy a new motherboard cause MSI is gonna try and blame Intel for the issues like the guy told me on the phone. How about send me a new board with a factory shipped bios so I can get back to benching??

You guys are now a small tight nit family (team) like we are at Warp9. And that's OK! We only require traffic from our team members and not out to cater to the public and the masses opinions. And as a mod, I'm glad I don't have to herd cats and watch for posts. I mean we hardly ever get spammed even. Haven't logged into OCN since you guys left and came here. *F uck that place. It's washed up now a days (IMO).

It was different for sure. Not sure about the voting for each other due to possible favoritism. Don't mind me, just the opinion of it. A prize is a prize. Just as long as the prize is appealing, I believe it will become more popular. Either way, I had fun and will participate in the next one!! And thanks for hosting!!

1. Sir Beregond 2. Damric 3. SlaughterHouse Going to be honest. I'd game on any of them XD. All sweet builds. I don't think there would be any disappointed customers at this custom build shop. Good Game

Oof, Bones been on the team longer than me! He's been with Mr.scott during the Forum Wars days. You know, before HWBot became a thing. And speaking of Forum Wars, perhaps this could be a thing to be started back up again. Might gain traction after a while, get some over the pond teams to join possibly. However many forums I used to frequent are gone or dead as a door nail. ExtremeSystems OverclockersForums(US) OverClockT Overclockaholics ExtremeOverClockingForums ---The list goes on--- Any ways. Your Team vs My Team in a Forum war competition. If this sounds appealing to you guys, we could definitely cook something tasty!! Even if it takes a couple of months planning, aiming for after TC is cool. It would be a first of it's kind in nearly 20 years.

I'm blushing!! Been over there since 2009. It would take quite a lot of bribeage lol.