UltraMega

OK? Are we done here yet? Is this level of scrutiny really required? I was hardly saying anything here at all and it snowballed simply because of the technicalities.

I was responding to Pio's claim that there is a "ton" of hardware locked to windows 7. That simply isn't true.

I don't really have a perspective on this. I simply stated that any PC that runs 7 can run 10. I have a few opinions about 7 vs 10 but I'm not trying to debate any of them. I was unaware of the issues about 64 bit specifically with these specific CPUs, but it doesn't make what I said wrong either since they can still run windows 10, just not 64-bit. Retro and Enthusiast are opposite end of the spectrum anyway.

I never personally owned any AMD CPUs back then, but again the CPUs in question can run 10, just not the 64-bit version of 10. However, it does seem like a pretty rare occurance to me since 64-bit didn't even really take off until the windows 10 era. Can't imagine there are many people affected by this issue. I'd call that rare. I'd be curious just to know what would happen if you tried to upgrade from 7 to 10 64-bit on one of those CPUs instead of doing a clean install. I'm guessing it still doesn't work, but maybe it makes an exception for upgrade installs.

All I said was any hardware that can do 7 can do 10. I didn't say anything about all hardware that can do 7 64-bit being able to do 10 64-bit. Makes sense that there might be a few very unique CPUs that can't do the 64-bit version of 10, but can still do the 32-bit just fine. I my experience 7 and 10 run about the same on old hardware. Definitely differences in what they do while idle tho. Been quite a while since I used 7 extensively.

The instruction set you mentioned is only required for 64-bit. perhaps that particular CPU specifically is in an extremely rare spot of being able to run XP-64 bit but only 10 32-bit, but it can still run 10, just not 64-bit. The other CPUs you mentioned can all run 10 64-bit no problem. I also think I was remembering running into issues installing 10 64-bit on a P4, which was later upgraded to a core 2 duo. P4 still worked with 32-bit tho, and subsequently so did the Core 2 Duo.

I'm not arguing 10 is great for retro gamers, but it's a fact that any PC that can run 7 can also run 10. I mealy mentioned this and you insisted it wasn't true, yet I know that it is so I am simply trying to get you to see that. If you want to send me your 939 board, I'll install windows 10 on it.

I get that, but there is nothing that will run on 7 but not 10 after doing an upgrade install. Meaning upgrading a machine with 7 on it to 10. Whatever games are in the machine will still run after the upgrade. A clean install might be different. Some games might have some very specific bugs on 10 that don't exist on 7, and vice versa. I'm not saying there are zero issues for retro gamers, I'm just saying any machine running 7 can be upgraded to 10.

It says 64 bit right here, at 7 seconds in to the video.

Is this K8? Not that familiar with older AMD CPUs.

Pentium D and Pentium 4 work. Everything that can run 7 can run 10. That's really all there is to it.

The thread you linked didn't mention a specific CPU, just some instruction set. And not for nothing, but some thread from 2014 isn't exactly meaningful evidence of anything. Just search for a video of windows 10 running on these parts you've mentioned. Again, I have installed 10 on a Core 2 Duo and even weaker CPUs. I know it works.

The thread you just linked doesn't say that any particular CPU won't work with windows 10, just that it's not a 64-bit CPU. The core 2 Duo CPU that was in my mom's PC at the time was a 32-bit CPU. It would not work with windows 10 64-bit but worked fine with 32-bit. Perhaps you tried to install the 64-bit version of windows 10 on this older hardware? The 32 and 64 bit versions are separate installers.

IDK what to tell you, maybe there was some other issue in the way when you last tried to run windows 10 on any of those CPUs. Window 10 absolutely works on those CPUs.

I have literally upgraded a core 2 duo PC from 7 to 10, they don't lack anything required to run windows 10. It was my moms PC. I built it. I can assure you it works. x86 has nothing to do with it. Windows 10 supports both 32-bit and x86/64-bit.

This is already a thing. There are plenty of videos out there already using this kind of tech to make tier lists narrated by Trump and Biden on youtube.

Windows 10 should be able to run on anything windows 7 can run on. I know I have installed windows 10 on a Core 2 Duo CPU. Even Pentium 4 can run windows 10. Athlon64 X2 can also run windows 10, I just searched for it on youtube and saw videos of windows 10 running on a Pentium 4 and an Athlon64 X2. Every PC that runs windows 7 can be upgraded to 10, and the upgrade is still free despite reports that it isn't. It's the last windows OS to support 32 bit. Windows 10 can run on PCs that it really shouldn't, but it's no worse than 7 on older machines. I think you would have to go pack to Pentium 3 to find hardware that windows 10 won't run on, but neither will 7.

Looks like this being made by a Russian mod team, so... ya know... probably not much Rockstar can do to stop them. But it's also due out in 2025, and supposedly "it will be a completely different game, in a completely different city." You might wanna move this out of the news section since it's just an announcement for a mod that's still over a year away and may never release, or may just end up as a vice city inspired asset flip.

Probably not really many or any games that will run on windows 7 but not 10/11. The only game I've ever had trouble with on 10 was F.E.A.R. but I found a simple fix for it online and got it working. That game was originally for XP anyway tho.

I feel it Looking forward to you joining the 7900 club.

When do you expect to be up and running with the new parts?

Nvidia skimping on ram is what pushed me to AMD. I had a 1080Ti at the time which is an 11GB card, got it for $700 back when it was the best gaming card money could buy. When the 2000 series came out and the 2080Ti was so much more expensive but hardly any faster for raster, and didn't even come with an upgrade on the Vram, I felt like going with AMD was the only thing that made sense. I didn't want to go from an 11Gb card to another 11GB card, or a card with even less ram if I wanted to spend about the same amount on a new card as I did on the 1080Ti. Going with AMD meant I could get more Vram and spend less than I did before. Seemed like a no-brainer. But this was also peak covid GPU shortage time and I was also just lucky enough to get a card at MSRP from AMDs website. Lot of other stuff going on in the market at that time. That said, I think it's pretty unlikely Nvidia could get away with a third gen of GPUs that don't up the Vram.

As I understand it, the persuasion system is based on your persuasion level + some RNG, with each option having a different value and likeliness of success. The actual text is completely irrelevant, and you can choose the exact same options and get different outcomes. I think during development, the game was probably a lot more of a survival game. Remnants of systems that have no reason to be in the game if they hadn't had a larger scope at some point seem to suggest a lot was left out for the sake of making the game more accessible. The game has a fuel system, an environmental debuf system, and at least half a dozen other systems that just don't really do anything meaningful. I wonder if they wanted to make a survival and exploration based game sort of like Valheim but pivoted when they realized they hadn't made anything interesting to explore, and hadn't fleshed out the mechanics of the game enough for the survival to be good. Perhaps they thought the scope of the game would ballon if they were to add the content needed to make exploration meaningful, so they cut their losses and over-simplified any survival aspects of the game. If the exploration were actually good and there were interesting planets to go to, the game could have had a solid survival based aspect where a player could go to a planet and use the outpost system and crafting system to build a base for the purpose of survival. In Valheim, it makes sense to build different bases in different biomes to make it easier to process the items you can get in each biome, and Starfield could have made that an engaging part of the game. As it is, I don't really get what the point of the outpost system is beyond just farming for XP. It seems like most of the pieces are probably already there, and it wouldn't be that hard to tweak the game into a much more survival focused game. Makes me wonder if a mod or expansion/update will eventually aim to do that.