iamjanco

Thanks E 

Got an update about the refund for the CPU: it took some doing because of how difficult it is to contact live bodies at eBay Customer Support these days, but they did approve a full refund for the purchase. I received emails to that effect from both eBay and Paypal yesterday; and the refund should show up in my bank "toys" account in a few days.

Thought you guys might like to know that.

Thanks, guys. Yeah, it was a bummer, but I got over it quickly. Should get my refund tomorrow or Friday. 

So I had a bit of a setback yesterday regarding my plans for the EVGA Dark SR-3 motherboard I have on hand and am going to set that aside until I get a processor for it. I was going to use what was supposed to be a Xeon W-3175X that I picked up for cheap on eBay ($2,000 + tax), but it turns out that when it arrived here it was anything but new:

Just another you get what you pay for experience.

Anyway, I've already filed a return request for a refund with eBay and the cpu will ship back to the seller tomorrow. Appropriate feedback was also left for the seller, simply for the sake of others.

In the meantime, I'll move forward with the build using the following two motherboard/cpu combinations:

• EVGA Z490 Dark K|NGP|N / Intel® Core™ i7-10700K
• EVGA X299 Dark / Intel® Core™ i9-10940X

Thanks, guys 

On 17/09/2020 at 17:11, ENTERPRISE said:

Wow holy....rude words. That's AMAZING. That is what I call a build. I also enjoyed hearing about your background, I can see how your past has helped you with this monster.

So to get this straight in my mind, this is basically a super test bench for testing all sorts of PC components ? I mean you virtually say that but every time I look at the pictures I am like Nahh cant be haha.

Definitely subbed to this. I think this will be home page worth

Yeah, that's about the jist of it, E. I might add a chiller down the road, but that wouldn't be at least until next year. Also thinking about replacing the cheapish IR camera I currently have with a FLIR E4 and upgrading the firmware in it to E8 specs. Right now I'm just gathering my thoughts on how best to proceed with the build log what with the W-3175X that's supposed to arrive Saturday. I'll be delidding that and already have a der8auer LGA 3647 delidding tool to accomplish that.

On 17/09/2020 at 21:40, axipher said:

As an electrical engineer and automation technician, this project excites me

Thanks. Interesting that you mentioned automation tech. I wrote user guides for Anorad's linear motors for a couple of years back in the '90s. Anorad eventually got picked up by Rockwell Automation toward the end of my stint with them.

Reserved for Test Bench and specific motherboard/cpu combos.

Reserved for Test Bench and specific motherboard/cpu combos.

Reserved for Test Bench and specific motherboard/cpu combos.

Reserved for Test Bench and specific motherboard/cpu combos.

Reserved for Test Bench and specific motherboard/cpu combos.

Some of the test equipment I'll be using follows (current links have been added, where available):

• Amprobe TMA10A Anemometer Thermometer
• Digital Water TDS Meter, Kill-A-Watt Meter, pH Meter
• DMMCheck Plus R5 Calibration Standard
• DT6236B Contact and Laser Photo Tachometer
• Dwyer Series 490-1 wet/wet Digital Manometer 0-15psi
• Extech 380499 Resistance Decade Box
• Extech 407736 Sound Level Meter
• Fluke 289 True RMS Multimeter
• Fluke i1010 AC/DC Current Clamp
• GW Instek 1850D Lab PSU
• Keithley 2231A-30-3 DC Power Supply, 30V, 3A, 195W
• King Instruments 75302113C-04 Liquid 2 GPM Flow Meter (2x)
• King Instruments 75302117C06 Liquid 5 GPM Flow Meter (1x)
• King Instruments 761223052W 1FSSSSVT Liquid 3.8 GPM Flow Meter (2x)
• Reveltronic RevelProg IS Serial Device Programmer
• Siglent SDG2042X Function/Arbitrary Waveform Generator
• Siglent SDS2104X Plus Super Phosphor MSO Oscilloscope
• Tektronix 465 Analog Oscilloscope

Index: Motherboard/CPU/RAM combos:

EVGA Z490 Dark K|NGP|N (LGA 1200)

EVGA Z490 Dark K|NGP|N / Intel® Core™ i7-10700K | i9-10850K | i9-10900K G.SKILL Trident Z 32GB (2x16GB) F4-4000C17D-32GTRSB

EVGA X299 Dark (LGA 2066)

EVGA X299 Dark / Intel® Core™ i9-10940X / G.SKILL Trident Z 64GB (8x8GB) F4-3200C14Q2-64GTZ (only four sticks will be used) | G.SKILL Trident Z 64GB (8x8GB) F4-3600C16Q2-64GTZSW (only four sticks will be used)

ASUS X299 ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME (LGA 2066)

ASUS X299 ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME / same cpus as the X299 Dark / G.SKILL Trident Z 64GB (8x8GB) F4-3200C14Q2-64GTZ (eight stick capacity) | G.SKILL Trident Z 64GB (8x8GB) F4-3600C16Q2-64GTZSW (eight stick capacity)

EVGA SR-3 Dark (LGA 3647)

EVGA SR-3 Dark / Intel® Xeon® W-3265 Processor

Reserved for Nights in White Satin.

First, why muffler bearings?

...because I was going around in circles for quite some time and finally decided what I really want to do. That's not really why though, just a simple statement of fact. If you like, think of it in terms of the following equation: C = 2ϖr, the circumference of a circle.

A little bit about me:

Age-wise, I am older guy, but not the oldest. I spent 20 years in the U.S. Air Force as a technician, during which my my job title went from Search & Weather Radar/Airborne Navigation Systems, to Communications & Navigation Systems, to Jack of All Trades and Master of Some. During that time, I worked both the flight-line and in-shop, finely honing what was then state of the art equipment, as well as some of the most ancient tube (valve, if you will; you know, as in Half Life) based relics. I've worked on (in order of timeline) C141s, C130s, C124s (old shaky), KC-135s, F4Cs, F4Es, F101s, A10s, and RF4Es and their respective kits, troubleshooting and repairing those systems and their LRUs (line replaceable units) both onboard and in the shop on the bench, all over the western world, but mostly in Europe (Spain, Holland, the UK, Germany, Turkey and Italy).

After I retired from the military in 1992, I picked up some extra tricks (far more than I ever did in the military) working for a small, private company staffed by what I can only call geniuses, which specialized in developing and manufacturing custom multiprocessor-platforms geared toward testing air- and ship-borne electronic warfare control system receivers. They called me a systems integration tech/field service engineer, and I eventually added "trainer" to that hat.

That training was some of the toughest work I ever did because it was geared toward not only how to keep those systems up and running, but also how to develop and implement effective EW software-based scenarios (gamers probably would have loved that). My mix of students being international and in places as far off as Ankara, Turkey, I of course came across all kinds whose understanding of what they were doing ranged from great, to the rather mediocre, to the downright piss poor (pardon my French); hence, the challenge, and also the reason why I would spend many a class night on the phone back to the states debugging scenarios on the fly. Creating them was tough noogies.

Anyway, I eventually moved into technical writing, as I became a father who wanted to be a father, and just couldn't afford to continue "seeing the world."

There's more to my bio of course, buy let's leave it at that for now.

Now for Muffler Bearings...

First, see this. You don't have to read everything at that link, but whatever you do read should give you an inkling of what muffler bearings are all about. My goal is to create a platform I can use to test just about anything associated with consumer and professional grade pcs and their associated components, and help breach the gap between "I don't have a clue about what I'm doing" and "oh, I see now, thumbs up" , at least for those who feel faced with such.

Anyway, I'll leave it there for now, as my order of elbow grease has arrived and it's time to get things up and running.

The prototype control panel mounted:

The control panel today:

You can view a short video of the initial fan test here:

The Manhattan Project is a combination of a cooling tower/control panel called Muffler Bearings, a multi-purpose test bench, and Nights in White Satin (a white CaseLabs SMA8 build which can be hooked up to the cooling tower/control panel combo). Both the test bench itself and Nights in White Satin can be hooked up to the cooling tower by way of Koolance quick disconnects.

Anyway, I actually got the idea forThe Manhattan Project one day going back and forth with J7SC in the ban thread over on OCN, followed up by a series of PMs between the two of us. Muffler Bearings' main platform consists of a control panel that is used to manage temps as well as monitor just about anything within the realm of feasible possibility (and then some), as well as conduct experiments and component level testing. The control panel is attached to a frame built to house two Watercool MORA3 radiators, 4x Watercool D5 vario pumps (2x2; dual loops), and two Heatkiller 200 reservoirs. Quick disconnects for both cooling fluid and electrical connections (e.g., signals; psus for the sub-platforms will be unique) will allow for relatively easy connection of the control panel to either the extruded aluminum test platform containing the motherboard or the Caselabs SMA8. Since I have just about every conceivable module that I wanted and was available via Caselabs for the SMA8 on hand, there will be no real need to add anything but fans for airflow to the SMA8, and perhaps aux radiator cooling between components in the same loop

This will be a work in progress.

dedicated to my dad, hewasbenco.

you know our rules about self shock videos. looking forward to it

(hey, look, they even got a pookie emoji! :misc_newyear: ).

ban old men :old:

85? i said old, not ancient (though i might get away with running for office, eh?).

let's say i had to start paying for medicare this month. let's also say that your dad and i coulda shared the same mom considering how closely spaced his and my birthdays are. that is of course if your dad's mom and dad subscribed to the annual plan. i think that was a thing way back when.

til radium glows. bant.

let's just say i can actually legally get away with asking for senior citizen discounts now.

got one for me?

bant.

bant coz i got a hint ?

ion, in three daze (or is that threes dazes?) i'll officially be old.

btw, if you get a chance to watch a new Russian movie called Sputnik, i highly recommend it. it's closed captioned, but a very well made film and an interesting twist on alien.

bant coz ah the good ole days, when there was one phone in the house, usually hung on a wall next to the kitchen table, and when you wanted to block someone, you just left the receiver off the hook.

bant coz what's wrong with the past?

Made a custom fully shielded y usb cable for the pair of Quadros in muffler bearings to allow for firmware updates of the Quadros. Also made four foot long Aquabus cables for the dual mps400s at the base of the tower (a y cable that connects to the AQ6XT at the top of the control panel), and will make a similar y USB cable for the mps400s as well.

Interesting note about the Aquabus cables Aquacomputer ships with their parts: while those 4 wire cables do have a simple shield, the shielding isn't connected at either end of the cable essentially negating effective use of that shielding. I imagine it likely wasn't a concern for them.

Anyway, just tried to upload pix, but it looks like I'm not allowed to upload jpgs to the server. What's everyone using to host pix?

In any event, you can view the latest for this build over on the other site at this link.

Build log coming to extremehw soon (if that's ok with you, E).

P.S. I'm guessing 486 is fish man. Hi fish man.

Always nice to see life being breathed back into old stuff using the tools available today. :thumbs_thumbsupup: A bit of ingenuity there as well (though I might have attached the same under a microscope geared toward the purpose, especially given my ancient eyes).

Nice work (three thumbs up and two big toes).

ah, the Orca, always great to see builds like these :thumbs_thumbup: One might even agree that it does lend meaning to the notion of Extreme Hardware (if I do say so myself) :happy_biggrin:

ENTERPRISE said:

Thanks to @iamjanco for purchasing the Ducky Keyboard ! Proceeds will go towards the next purchase of components !

You're more than welcome, E--glad I could help

The Pook said:

Jedson3614 said:

Oh man, @The Pook! Long time, glad to see your still alive and well! I love the interface here so much more than OCN!

 

 

ENTERPRISE said:

 

Hang on a min...Are we not supposed to ban people here ? Ban for not banning !

 

 

 

but he just got here

 

banned for banning

bant coz you never wave at me like that. at least not on OCN 

bant coz it's 2:13AM here and this is my day job.

Banned coz I've done web dev for almost 25 years now. Paid for two heart transplants, bought a house in the Hollywood hills, and owned half the cars Leno does. 'Course I employed 4,000+ in New Delhi and Mumbai doing it 

Now I'm just getting ready to milk goats the low tech way.

Thanks, 

That's actually just a subtle twist on the first thing you read when you start playing the first episode of Zork. Best done on any monitor, using any gpu.

You come across grues later in the game.