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Thanks, I've had good experience with a different Corsair PSU but never with an MSI. Seems like the a850gl (Bit more budget version without Japanese capacitors) is competitive with the 850x so an a850g should hopefully be solid. I think I read the MSI has a longer warranty and longer cables. Hrmmm

When there's a few dollar difference which is the better built PSU? Quiet and whichever will help avoid coil whine. Handle a 4080/7900xtx level card. I'm sensitive to coil whine I already have tinnitus in one ear I don't want to hear reeeeeeeeeeeee in stereo would a 1000w have less strain and have less of a chance? Just trying to cover my bases. Thanks dudes,

The board was okay but MSI has redundancies, some wonkiness, but I would say it was better than my last Gigabyte that would randomly change from UFEI to standard BIOS at random it left a bad taste in my mouth. When I sold it I tossed in a free cooler just to get it out of my home faster. Asus QC/Warranty these days is pretty questionable. Overall I'm still having a hard time knowing that Asrock is one of the better options although I have no experience with their BIOS. But you are correct I don't think I'll be going for another MSI unless it's one crazy deal. Which boards are you seeing are actually quality/ not stupid bios? The fanboi echo chamber is really something else not to mention all the performance any of these companies promise is always bs. I commented earlier about how the CPU-Z single core performance wasn't anything impressive (although a leak so who knows). But if it the leak was accurate and so is the Videocardz article I would not surprised at all. 7800X3D sounds like the most appealing, maybe an intel rig if they get cleared out hard seeing as I still have DDR4. I had to go from single rank to dual rank cause AMD's controller couldn't handle the ram upgrade which was a fun waste of a week troubleshooting that and the return. Is AM5 any better for memory or is it still sketchy? Something I'll also consider.

I'm not upgrading out of necessity. That is correct but upgrading based on Performance/value/enjoy of building PC's. This is an "extreme hw" forum right?

Well I canceled it. We'll see if I regret it. While that 9000X3D would be nice I'll be waiting another couple years to upgrade to one of them. If the 7800X3D does drop in price I'll snag one I'll be watching. I'm going to be surprised if the 9600X is that amazing but I feel like I'm either missing something or I'm just not buying into the fanboi hype. I'm not sure why there's so much hype over a chip that's single core performance in CPU-Z is on par with a i7-12700K. But the 7900X3D at $389 when it's generally $500+ and a 7800X3D is $488 well the 7900X3D to me still seemed like a good option but I agree not the best. Most importantly I'm not paying $500 for either of them I just don't think a 7800X3D or 9000X3D is worth $488-500 to me. I actually won't pay over $400 for a chip again it just wasn't worth it. I rather opt for the $400 deal I just saw pop up for a 7600X + Mobo combo. Anyone go from a 5600X to 7600X to X3D chip for actual real life comparison? Thanks everyone for the AM4 advice. It is probably the best advice for someone interested in keeping with AM4 however I have 0 interest in a 5700X3D or 5800X3D I'm sick of AM4. I spent more hours tweaking this thing probably than all the other PC's I've had combined (20+ years of building PC's) and honestly AM4 never felt satisfying.

1080p by choice. That's an idea.

I appreciate this as you actually have one. Thanks for the advice. Nah I'm done with AM4 wasted too much time tweaking it and going from a 3000 series to 5000 was pretty lackluster of an upgrade.

Well I have 30 days to return so I guess we'll see if AMD can release something on par with with a 7900X3D that costs less than this we'll see. I kinda doubt it considering a Ryzen 7 7700 (non X) is $410 and I'm pretty sure the 7900X3D trounces it in gaming for $21 less.

So here in Canada the 7900X3D hit an ATL on Amazon of $389 (sold out now). Another retailer has one "on sale" for $580. For reference current list price on Amazon for the 7800X3D $489, 7950X3D $749, 5700X3D is $299 and 5800X3D $409. Pricing for reference. 5600X is what I have right now. Let me know if I should return this thing since it hasn't arrived yet or if this was smart. This is 90% a gaming rig and I realize the 7800X3D is a better all around gaming CPU but seemed like a good deal. I'm concerned I'm not going to see a massive uplift and I'd be better off just getting a new GPU. However my buddy who went from a 5600X to a 5800X3D seems to think it runs smoother but not sure if smoother is worth the money. Seems like some games do favor this over the 7800X3D spiderman, hogwarts, I think I saw one COD maybe? I won't be overclocking this thing so I'm going to make it as budget as possible. If it's worth keeping feel free to drop your X3D tips since all I know is that you are limited with your options on these. I have a RX 6750 XT, what sort of uplift do you think I'll end up seeing? I'll let people know should I keep the chip.

Thank you!

Can someone please explain to me what Nvidia is actually selling besides shares? I'm a distributor in real life I represent 40+ companies in sales for me I like having factual tangible equipment to sell and being able to research it. Few days back unfortunately I don't have it (I'll post if I find it again) but It was showing these insane sales from Nvidia that were trouncing their GPU sales. Okay of what and to who? Seriously can someone name a part number or products and in what scale are they being sold and to who? I seriously want to know cause I must have missed something here. The weird thing is I have asked numerous times around Reddit especially in investment subs and nobody can seem to give me an answer. It kinda seems like I'm watching this. CEO to IT should we get some of that AI? Yeah for sure. Okay here's a check for $10,000,000. Make it happen IT. IT sooo ummm lets just put the money into Nvidia stock and show the CEO ChatGPT. Bonuses for the IT department this year.

So whenever I hear AI Nvidia pops up. I feel like Nvidia has an incredible Marketing team they sell the crap feature for a premium to idiots. While that's not bad when it comes to sales it's another when it comes to a long term investment into a specific technology. I worry Nvidia may still be overpriced from Crypto + pandemic however are they seriously that much of a dominant fixture when it comes to AI? Who are other serious players considering TESLA and NVIDIA stock seemed to be linked for whatever crazy reasons right now.

Just giving folks a bit of an update here. So I'm locked into these settings for my CPU. I don't know what it is about them but they seem to perform the best no matter what I do. Can I get slightly better multicore yes. Can I get higher single thread performance no. Opting to go that route because this system is for entertainment and gaming and not multi-threaded work. PPT: 120 TDC: 65 EDC: 90 Scalar: X1 1.110 SOC Voltage. XMP ON. -20 on most cores -16 on my best two. Running +25Mhz or +50Mhz it doesn't make much difference performance wise. However increasing it further to +100Mhz there is a performance drop when benching. I might mess around with my memory however I don't think I'll be doing much OCing over the summer. I don't have AC in my spare bedroom where my computer is and it would be like comparing Apples to Apple Pie since most of my benching was done in the winter, also with the window cracked. It's been in the high 20's (80's Fahrenheit) this week and watching twitch and web surfing my CPU is in the lower 50C's and gaming I'm in the low to mid 70C's for example. I still feel like there's something about the 120-65-90 that just squeezes performance out of the 5600X. I have pages and pages of notes and benchmarks so maybe this will help someone else out if they try it.

Anyone work in the industry? Seems like there's a lot of hype in AI right now however I don't know if it's basically investment marketing to pump these companies up or actually legit. Obviously AI has merit however is it completely overblown at this point. Does anyone actually work in the industry or AI R&D on here?

It's like Nvidia every couple months sends me a reminder that I don't need to have any buyers remorse over switching teams. Thanks Nvidia.