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2 minutes ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

@Mr. Fox That's a nice result! 750W is a bit too hot for my cooling solutions though.. 😄

 

 

After a little modification I'm able to cool down a 3070Ti to 10°C idle and 45°C load on air. Temperature sensor is in the exhaust airflow now, so it just doesn't shut off.

 

 

...'cool', so to speak 😛 . Tricking the AC sensor into thinking that it is still in Acapulco instead of Svalbard is worth extra ingenuity points ! 

 

...as mentioned, that old phase cooler of mine might be pressed into service soon for a liquid-to-liquid 'heat / cold' exchanger...I last used it on a 4790K a couple of years back:

 

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16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

When I really started pushing my 3090 KPE with the 1kW XOC vBIOS using 1.350-1.400V NVDD and MSVDD @ LLC L15, I had to replace the circuit breaker with 20A for my home office because it kept flipping the 15A breaker. My Kill-A-Watt meter will often show more than 1100W being pulled from the wall in Time Spy Test 2 and up to 1200W in 3DMark 11 Test 1 when I am able to keep the chilled water cold enough to keep the core clocks from dropping. 

 

Even benching something like Catzilla pulls over 750W.

 

 

 

Wow, tx - nice trip down memory lane for me 👍

 

...I haven't run Catzilla in many years, but I remember that w/ 4 cards on chilled water, KPE XOC vbios and EVBots it was a huge power hog, even at 1440p (below)...AFAIR, this was with 4 PSUs daisy-chained - and it was the only combo / bench which tripped the master breaker in our place (at night, of course) 🥴 ..I think it happened more than once, and usually right at the end of the Catzilla run when it was about to switch to displaying the score.  With one of the quad GPU sets, I had to run two separate EVBots to change the two weaker cards mid-stream as there wasn't enough time to cycle through 4 cards on one EVB...

 

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50 minutes ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

@Mr. Fox That's a nice result! 750W is a bit too hot for my cooling solutions though.. 😄

 

 

After a little modification I'm able to cool down a 3070Ti to 10°C idle and 45°C load on air. Temperature sensor is in the exhaust airflow now, so it just doesn't shut off.

 

Thank you. This kind of stuff is so much fun. Fast computers are very affordable alternative to fast cars and motorcycles. I don't even care about the latter anymore. 

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1 minute ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...'cool', so to speak 😛 . Tricking the AC sensor into thinking that it is still in Acapulco instead of Svalbard is worth extra ingenuity points ! 

 

...as mentioned, that old phase cooler of mine might be pressed into service soon for a liquid-to-liquid 'heat / cold' exchanger...I last used it on a 4790K a couple of years back:

 

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Wow, tx - nice trip down memory lane for me 👍

 

...I haven't run Catzilla in many years, but I remember that w/ 4 cards on chilled water, KPE XOC vbios and EVBots it was a huge power hog, even at 1440p (below)...AFAIR, this was with 4 PSUs daisy-chained - and it was the only combo / bench which tripped the master breaker in our place (at night, of course) 🥴 ..I think it happened more than once, and usually right at the end of the Catzilla run when it was about to switch to displaying the score.  With one of the quad GPU sets, I had to run two separate EVBots to change the two weaker cards mid-stream as there wasn't enough time to cycle through 4 cards on one EVB...

 

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I would love to have a phase change setup. Maybe someday. As goofy as GPUs are now with the absurd room temperature thermal throttling nonsense, it would be more useful for GPU cooling than CPU cooling.

Living in the AZ blast furnace, the absence of humidity is well suited to chilled water and phase change. Condensation still needs to be monitored, but it is rarely an issue.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I would love to have a phase change setup. Maybe someday. As goofy as GPUs are now with the absurd room temperature thermal throttling nonsense, it would be more useful for GPU cooling than CPU cooling.

Living in the AZ blast furnace, the absence of humidity is well suited to chilled water and phase change. Condensation still needs to be monitored, but it is rarely an issue.

 

The phase changer is indeed neat, and utterly painless, as long as you insulated the mobo correctly....it drops to - 50C and you can even game for hours on end (if you don't mind the 'freezer' sound next to you). It can actually get rid off 800 W+, but once you're beyond the typical 4C/8T power budget, its transient response is a bit too slow (you crashed before it caught up), and folks get into huge (2x or 3x) cascading phase coolers for heavier PL stuff.

 

I plan to use a different approach by having the single phase I have cool down a 60 L water reservoir that also has a big copper rad in it connected to one of my Raven setups (sig pic) via QDs which are already in the system. The extra liquids 'inside and outside' the loop should help 'dampen' sudden temp changes via load changes....that's at least my theory.

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26 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

...'cool', so to speak 😛 . Tricking the AC sensor into thinking that it is still in Acapulco instead of Svalbard is worth extra ingenuity points ! 

 

...as mentioned, that old phase cooler of mine might be pressed into service soon for a liquid-to-liquid 'heat / cold' exchanger...I last used it on a 4790K a couple of years back:

It was the first thing I had in mind when I ordered that AC unit, happy it worked. 
Still not as good as that phase cooler, that's way cooler 😄 

 

26 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Thank you. This kind of stuff is so much fun. Fast computers are very affordable alternative to fast cars and motorcycles. I don't even care about the latter anymore. 

Yeah, it depends on how much hardware you have though and what kinda cars you are into. I don't think I've spent as much money on cars as I did on hardware 😂

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10 minutes ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Yeah, it depends on how much hardware you have though and what kinda cars you are into. I don't think I've spent as much money on cars as I did on hardware 😂

That is true now for me. I used to spend lots of money on cars (custom street rods) and motorcycles (a whole lot more than I ever have spent on computers) and that was at a time in life when I didn't really have the financial resources to support that addiction. Factoring in inflation, I probably still cannot afford to do it on the scale I used to when I was young and wild.

 

Now that I am an old dude, I just want reliable transportation. Nothing fancy as long as it is clean and the AC works. I take care of my cars and generally put over 200K miles on them. That takes a long time because I don't rack up miles quickly. My ride is a 2005 Ford Five Hundred SEL AWD that I purchased for $3500 with under 50K miles on it about 5 years ago. At the rate I am going, it will take me at least another 5 years to hit 200K miles. 

 

When Mrs. Fox has something to say about the money I blow on computer crap, I remind her that I could always go back to the more expensive fetish. (I don't let her know I am no longer interested in it, or that trick wouldn't work well, LOL.)

 

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On 10/02/2022 at 22:44, Mr. Fox said:

When I really started pushing my 3090 KPE with the 1kW XOC vBIOS using 1.350-1.400V NVDD and MSVDD @ LLC L15, I had to replace the circuit breaker with 20A for my home office because it kept flipping the 15A breaker. My Kill-A-Watt meter will often show more than 1100W being pulled from the wall in Time Spy Test 2 and up to 1200W in 3DMark 11 Test 1 when I am able to keep the chilled water cold enough to keep the core clocks from dropping. 

 

Even benching something like Catzilla pulls over 750W.

 

 

OMG! I love Catzilla! it may not be the most demanding test, but it's FUN! It actually makes watching the testing worth sitting through! 🤣

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1 hour ago, schuck6566 said:

OMG! I love Catzilla! it may not be the most demanding test, but it's FUN! It actually makes watching the testing worth sitting through! 🤣

It is really cool. I wish there were more benchmarks that were equally entertaining.

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I have to go through my old Win 7 bench SSDs to find the paid-for / registered Catzilla version (if it is even still valid). I Take it it runs fine in WIN 10 pro ?

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I have to go through my old Win 7 bench SSDs to find the paid-for / registered Catzilla version (if it is even still valid). I Take it it runs fine in WIN 10 pro ?

Yes, but you need to download the latest version (Sept 2020) from their web site. Older versions will crash with an error message during launch. I fought it and was about to give up when I discovered there was an updated version available for download. That immediately solved the problem. The old license key I had when I bought it when Catzilla was first released worked fine. You can log in to your account and copy/paste it from there if you no longer have the product key.

 

https://www.catzilla.com/download
 

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...recent run with a fresh Win 10 Pro install and Galax HoF vbios on the 4090...not my highest result, but this run was w/o bench settings, just 24/7

 

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This is with ECC enabled for HWBOT compliance. I really hate having to enable ECC. The score takes a pretty hard hit.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/94304340 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5276039_mr._fox_3dmark___port_royal_geforce_rtx_4090_28654_marks

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Christmas Holidays are fun  🙂

 

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