Dedicated PLEX media server - Need Plex Gurus

[ENTERPRISE]

On 1/28/2021 at 12:26 AM, J7SC_Orion said:

I have used both 32 GB (4 sticks of lovely Samsung-B) and 64 GB (8 sticks of the same) on my quad-channel TR. Both RAM options overclocked well, though 4-stick 32 GB was obviously easier to set up and ultimately allowed for a few parameters to be tighter. With the 32c/64t TR or 64c/128t TR ('Pro' or not), 64 GB is minimum, IMO, to keep all those cores nicely fed. With 8 sticks in 8 channel rather than 8 sticks in 4 channels (ie. regular TR), I don't expect too much trouble, on the contrary. Time will tell...  

 

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I have 64Gb of RAM but I have not yet really had a chance to OC it due to the poor IF I am getting on my setup but the newer AGESA should hopefully help with that in Feb.  Sticks are rated at 3600Mhz at XMP (Though B-Die so easy to OC) but my Mobo refuses to easily run them 3600Mhz. I also have a set of TeamGroup Xtreem ARGB 64Gb 4000Mhz coming for review and testing, will see how that goes.

[schuck6566]

YIKES! https://www.zdnet.com/article/plex-media-servers-are-being-abused-for-ddos-attacks/

[ENTERPRISE]

4 hours ago, schuck6566 said:

YIKES! https://www.zdnet.com/article/plex-media-servers-are-being-abused-for-ddos-attacks/

Hmmm, sucks. However if you just switch the port from default, that should help mitigate it.

[BWG]

I don't have much to add other than my AX6600 streams 4k HDR wirelessly and perfectly. It's a consumer mesh router. The Asus Zenwifi xt8.

 

Also, Chromecast is pretty weak decoding some 4K and causes a lot of transcoding, so I suggest a Shield TV Pro instead. Works way better than integrated smart tv hardware/software.

 

I can't wait to build a house with hardlines everywhere!

[axipher]

7 minutes ago, BWG said:

I don't have much to add other than my AX6600 streams 4k HDR wirelessly and perfectly. It's a consumer mesh router. The Asus Zenwifi xt8.

 

Also, Chromecast is pretty weak decoding some 4K and causes a lot of transcoding, so I suggest a Shield TV Pro instead. Works way better than integrated smart tv hardware/software.

 

I can't wait to build a house with hardlines everywhere!

 

Do you mean the regular Chromecast?  My Chromecast Ultra with the 100 Mbit ethernet wall wart does 4k fine and Stadia too.

[Laithan]

11 hours ago, schuck6566 said:

YIKES! https://www.zdnet.com/article/plex-media-servers-are-being-abused-for-ddos-attacks/

 

Thanks for the heads up! 

 

I personly don't access my server from outside my private network nor do I have any kind of SSDP running... but that's really good to know as I had not even heard about this SSDP "feature". I can't understand why anyone would even want to use this kind of "service" as it is obvsiouly a security vulnerability that seems to be designed for those who don't have basic networking knowledge. UPnP should also be disabled of course... If easy is a priority over security then you clearly need someone else to manage your infrastructure.

 

 

[Laithan]

1 hour ago, BWG said:

I don't have much to add other than my AX6600 streams 4k HDR wirelessly and perfectly. It's a consumer mesh router. The Asus Zenwifi xt8.

 

Also, Chromecast is pretty weak decoding some 4K and causes a lot of transcoding, so I suggest a Shield TV Pro instead. Works way better than integrated smart tv hardware/software.

 

I can't wait to build a house with hardlines everywhere!

 

Awesome router.  Looks like it belongs in Star Wars .

 

Agree with you. I have noticed that more than one brand of TVs with ROKU integrated have a really hard time with 4K direct play content. It will tell you that the server isn't powerful enough or that your wireless connection isn't strong enough... but the truth is, the TV itself is at fault as it doesn't have enough processing power. I have tested and found the same issues with both TCL as well as Magnavox smart TVs with ROKU integrated. I even tried a wired connection as a test and there was no difference. 

 

I also have an NVIDIA Shield PRO and it has no issues with 4K content. 

[BWG]

1 hour ago, axipher said:

 

Do you mean the regular Chromecast?  My Chromecast Ultra with the 100 Mbit ethernet wall wart does 4k fine and Stadia too.

 

Integrated, like Vizio for example, wired even.

[axipher]

10 hours ago, BWG said:

 

Integrated, like Vizio for example, wired even.

 

Oh, I'm actually curious what they run to support Chromecast internally like that, I would imagine Vizio, Insignia and those other "box-store brands" would use something closer to a regular Chromecast though.  I gave all my regular Chromecasts away as gifts when I realized the Ultra went on sale often enough and had the wired port and better 4k support.  I haven't even tried my Samsung TV's built-in casting yet because I read it didn't support casting a full browser tab or your desktop, so I got a full Ultra instead.

[Sgt_Swanny]

On 2/5/2021 at 3:01 PM, schuck6566 said:

YIKES! https://www.zdnet.com/article/plex-media-servers-are-being-abused-for-ddos-attacks/

They released a patch for it today: https://forums.plex.tv/t/security-regarding-ssdp-reflection-amplification-ddos/687162

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5 minutes ago, Sgt_Swanny said:

They released a patch for it today: https://forums.plex.tv/t/security-regarding-ssdp-reflection-amplification-ddos/687162

This is what we like to see !

[Laithan]

1 hour ago, Sgt_Swanny said:

They released a patch for it today: https://forums.plex.tv/t/security-regarding-ssdp-reflection-amplification-ddos/687162

Thanks for the heads up, applied it just now

[Laithan]

Apparently there was a re-release of this fix (maybe). The first update that I installed on 2/6/2021, the build number was version 1.21.3.4014. Today I noticed there is another update which includes the same DDoS description (below) and is now build version 1.21.3.4021. This notification came directly from within the app by way of the "What's new" button next to the "Install updates" button. When I tried to confirm via web, I didn't get too far and didn't want to spend a lot of time on it either but I just remember from memory that the same fix listed below was mentioned both times. 

 

FIXES:
(Security) Mitigate against potential DDoS amplification by only responding to UDP requests from LAN

 

 

I also wanted to leave this link in the event there was ever a need to revert back to a prior version for some reason. 

Repository of prior Plex Media Server versions

https://www.videohelp.com/software/Plex/old-versions

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13 hours ago, Laithan said:

Apparently there was a re-release of this fix (maybe). The first update that I installed on 2/6/2021, the build number was version 1.21.3.4014. Today I noticed there is another update which includes the same DDoS description (below) and is now build version 1.21.3.4021. This notification came directly from within the app by way of the "What's new" button next to the "Install updates" button. When I tried to confirm via web, I didn't get too far and didn't want to spend a lot of time on it either but I just remember from memory that the same fix listed below was mentioned both times. 

 

FIXES:
(Security) Mitigate against potential DDoS amplification by only responding to UDP requests from LAN

 

 

I also wanted to leave this link in the event there was ever a need to revert back to a prior version for some reason. 

Repository of prior Plex Media Server versions

https://www.videohelp.com/software/Plex/old-versions

Good spot. Possibly the first patch was either not adequate or a super quick band aid prior to the final fix.

[Laithan]

$650 for a 1660 Super now...  What the... .. I think when I bought mine for this Plex server it was around $200 ish... Things are getting out of control. Who is paying these prices?!?

 

 

 

[ENTERPRISE]

7 hours ago, Laithan said:

$650 for a 1660 Super now...  What the... .. I think when I bought mine for this Plex server it was around $200 ish... Things are getting out of control. Who is paying these prices?!?

 

 

 

Yeah it is disgusting. The issue is that people will still pay these prices, at the very least if they are in a pinch which sucks but you cannot blame the consumer, at least not those who need a piece of hardware for something mission critical etc. 

 

I don't think we are going to see normalisation until 2022 or 2h 2022.

[schuck6566]

7 hours ago, Laithan said:

$650 for a 1660 Super now...  What the... .. I think when I bought mine for this Plex server it was around $200 ish... Things are getting out of control. Who is paying these prices?!?

 

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Yeah it is disgusting. The issue is that people will still pay these prices, at the very least if they are in a pinch which sucks but you cannot blame the consumer, at least not those who need a piece of hardware for something mission critical etc. 

 

I don't think we are going to see normalisation until 2022 or 2h 2022.

lol, and here's Nvidia's answer to the shortage....  https://www.pcworld.com/article/3607190/nvidia-rtx-30-graphics-card-shortages-gaming-gpu-gtx-1050-ti-geforce-rtx-2060.html

“There have been a lot of rumors recently about Nvidia releasing more GPUs to AIBs from older generations—the [GeForce] RTX 2060 and GTX 1050 Ti were specifically mentioned,”

[Laithan]

5 hours ago, schuck6566 said:

 

lol, and here's Nvidia's answer to the shortage....  https://www.pcworld.com/article/3607190/nvidia-rtx-30-graphics-card-shortages-gaming-gpu-gtx-1050-ti-geforce-rtx-2060.html

“There have been a lot of rumors recently about Nvidia releasing more GPUs to AIBs from older generations—the [GeForce] RTX 2060 and GTX 1050 Ti were specifically mentioned,”

 

They are more than happy to support artificial inflation and sell older products for double/triple the prices...

 

How about they just play it straight and produce more GPUs and put measures in place like IDK... one card limits or something to get around botters and scalpers...

 

This is an absolute disgrace and NVIDIA isn't doing us any favors with this...

 

 

[J7SC_Orion]

9 minutes ago, Laithan said:

 

They are more than happy to support artificial inflation and sell older products for double/triple the prices...

 

How about they just play it straight and produce more GPUs and put measures in place like IDK... one card limits or something to get around botters and scalpers...

 

This is an absolute disgrace and NVIDIA isn't doing us any favors with this...

 

 

  

...yeah, but they're doing their shareholders a lot of favours with that. For the regular consumer though:    

 

...also, I don't believe that in NVidia's financials, gaming and mining card revenue are separated (and some folks do both anyhow), while enterprise level GPU is a separate column