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What does higher build quality amount to? Thicker aluminum?

I'm curious why people still play more than $50-60 for a case. Given the options available, what do you expect from a more expensive case that you don't think a cheaper case would have?

I'd love to know what you could possibly say about computer cases that could be offensive to anyone.

The last PC I built used a $50 case and it was great. I just got another $50 case that I haven't tried yet, but I'm sure it will be great too. Way more good choices than there used to be, you used to have to spend a lot to get the kind of features you'd want in a high end PC like room for liquid cooling and a PSU cover on the bottom, but now that's basically standard. Lots of cases come with fan as well now. There may be some dumb cases out there, but overall the case market is way better than it used to be. Case I bought most recently: Rosewill SPECTRA D100 ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case With Tempered Glass Side Panel - Newegg.com WWW.NEWEGG.COM Buy Rosewill SPECTRA D100 ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case With Tempered Glass Side Panel with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

I don't think there is any merch, but that's a great idea!

I buy PC cases at least a few times a year. I'm actually pretty impressed with how cheap and competitive that market has become. There are tons of great options for $50 cases now.

Quantum computing requires extremely low temperatures, and I don't think that will change so unless we figure out how to make things really cold in small places for cheap, I doubt quantum computers will ever work for consumers.

RTX 3060 8GB: Way slower, no cheaper, avoid, says first online review | PC Gamer WWW.PCGAMER.COM Old 12GB board is up to 35% faster. Yikes. Just when you think Nvidia was already doing more than enough to piss off consumers.

Scalpers are struggling to sell the RTX 4080 above MSRP, but retailers won't let them return the cards WWW.TECHSPOT.COM We're used to seeing graphics cards arrive with such high demand that they're quickly bought in bulk by... Wonder if some cards might end up under mrsp as scalpers try to get their money back.

AMD: Moore's Law ain't dead, it's just a whole lot more expensive WWW.MSN.COM Faster PCs will keep on coming, but creating them is becoming ever more complex. Interesting read. Makes me think about how each gpu manufacturer is trying different things to work around this. Nvidia is going the DLSS route to try to improve performance without increasing transistors while AMD is going with chiplets. It's going to be very interesting to see how this will eventually impact global markets in ten years or so when the effects of Moore's law ending are much more impactful. A huge chunk of the economy revolves around better and better tech. Will tech continue to improve at a similarly marketable rate in other ways or will this usher in an era of stagnation in the tech market?

Just buy a used one. The 9900K you had was already used and now it died. A replacement used CPU for a model that's already 4 gens old is perfectly reasonable, more reasonable than buying new IMO. Hmm on second thought, after looking at prices for a used 9900K, they're still quite high at ~$300. You could get a used 3700x and a new B550 motherboard for less than $300. What are you going to do to replace the 9900K?

People are mad at Nvidia for taking covid/crypto era prices and trying to make them permanent, it's that simple IMO. No one is mad at 4090 buyers, people are mad at Nvidia for yet again surprising us with their level of greed. But just to play devils advocate, I've been saying the pacing effects of Moore's Law are over and these kinds of prices are going to be the new normal for everything high end in the hardware market more and more so going forward. I think Nvidia is greedy, but we are also hitting a Moore's Law wall, and both can be blamed for this situation. However the price issue is also due to Nvidia's poor planning and overstock, so if all three are factors, two of them are directly Nvidia's fault. Plenty of good reasons be mad at Nvidia right now. Hearing about people buying the 4090 is a little disappointing because Nvidia's issues make me wish people would vote against Nvidia with their wallets for a while, but that's mostly just wishful thinking.

European Central Bank says "cumbersome, slow and expensive" Bitcoin is on "road to irrelevance" WWW.TECHSPOT.COM The collapse of TerraUSD in May wiped almost $1 trillion off the crypto market. We've since seen the Celsius Network... Hope it's true.

Interesting, you probably know more about it than I do. I just assumed if you. Already have the setup, theres probably still some value but I'm not familiar with mining at all.

Since I've actually been buying used GPUs lately, I have a little insight into this. For one, I don't think mining has become unprofitable for people who already have a mining setup, but not worth starting a new setup anymore, so established miners are probably still using their cards for mining. Two, the GPU crash in the used market probably hasn't been fully realized yet because there are not a lot of options for people to upgrade to right now, pretty much just the 4090. Once more cards come out, used prices will drop a lot more I'm sure, but we are still waiting for GPUs to replace what people already have. Three, I've noticed there is a pretty heavy lag between where prices should be and where seller think they are in the used market that is pretty obvious when prices change this fast. There are still tons of people trying to sell their used cards for MSRP or even higher, and they just don't sell. I think the lag time can be about 2 months for the majority of sellers. You can really tell the difference between a seller who treats ebay like a business opportunity and ones who just want to get something for their used GPU. The ones sold by the latter tend to go quick, so you won't see their listing up for long. The best way to actually get a good price right now is to find listings that have been sitting around for a while that accept offers, or in an auction. Buy it now prices are usually not grounded in reality. I think right now the used market is about how it should have been a year ago if GPU prices had been more typical over the last 2-3 years. We're still behind, and still waiting for the big drop. Nvidia is trying to lessen the drop by stretching it out to a more-shallow curve, but once AMD gets new GPUS out, Nvidia won't be able to control the market so much. Right now we are in the phase where Nvidia is keeping prices high by trying not to compete directly with their own overstock and the market enthusiasm being so low reflects what a crappy situation we are in, but when that ends things may change quickly and drastically. Maybe Nvidia will start trying to get DLSS3 and unfeasible RT effects even more games to try to stave off competition since they seem to have become addicted to selling GPUs at highly inflated costs and they may be scrambling on a near constant basis now to manipulate the market to favor them in more and more ways that have less to do with direct competition. It seems like investors are starting to lose faith in Nvidia's ability to strong arm the market for much longer though, but I probably still wouldn't bet against Nvidia just yet, even though I'd like to. In the real world, I've only been buying used 3070s because that is where the price/ performance makes the most sense in the used market right now and you can get one for $375 after tax and shipping.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/sales-of-graphics-cards-hit-lowest-sales-since-a-decade.html The used market is looking better all the time for gpus lately.

As some of you have already seen me rant about in the discord, I've recently started experimenting with building new PCs with used parts for resale, for profit. Here is some documentation of my experience so far. Why do this? The most obvious reason would be to try and make a profit, but there are other benefits. For one, it can be done from home. Two, it's recycling, which can be a big deal for PC components which leave a lot of toxic waste in impoverished countries. But mostly for me as a PC building nerd, it's just a fun thing to do. Personally, I am a huge advocate of PC recycling. The logic: GPU prices are whack right now. No one feels happy about paying the original MSRP for a 3000 series card two years after launch. In addition, inflation and the breaking of Moore's Law is leading to a rise in CPU prices. Dialing back one or two generation on a CPU can still leave you above PS5/XBSX level performance by a wide margin. GPUs are about 30% cheaper used. GPUs have a low failure rate among PC parts, almost always outliving their warranties. CPUs can be as much as 50% cheaper when going back 1-3 generations. CPU failure is the least common hardware failure for desktops, almost always outliving their warranties Motherboards can go either way. Good used deals can be found, but they're slim. 20% savings. Buying new or used can both be effective and reasonable. The remaining components should all be purchased new, and there is little to nothing to gain from buying them used. Most Important Savings on Parts: CPU: 3700X with stock fan. 1 bent pin - $143 used I saw this CPU listed for about $20 less than any other listing that came with the stock cooler. The AMD prism Wrath cooler looks quite nice and has RGB, so I wanted to get a CPU that came with it. I felt confident that I could repair the bent pin, and I was right; however I feel the seller took pictures that hid the severity of the bend as it was a full 90 degree bend, though I was still able to repair it. The saving from going with a bent pin CPU was probably not worth it as I only saved about $20. GPU: ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 3070 OC This was my biggest personal hang up. This GPU was a good price, at $375 total after tax and shipping, but it was loud. I had to redo the thermal paste and despite my high-quality thermal grizzly paste as a replacement, the GPU was still quite loud, though not as loud as it was before the thermal paste refresh. I feel this was the weakest link in terms of customer quality/satisfaction as they find the fan noise too much. Parts to buy New: Case DeepCool MATREXX 40 3FS Ram Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C18 AMD Optimized SSD Kingston NV2 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Internal SSD Up to 3500 MB/s SNV2S/1000G PSU Thermaltake Smart RGB 700W 80+ 256-Color RGB Fan ATX 12V 2.3 All and all it cost me about $800 in parts, and another $3 for a windows key via gamers outlet. Listed the PC on Craigslist for $950, listed on ebay for a buy it now price of $980 plus $60 shipping on top. ($1040) I sold the PC in after via Craigslist having it listed for 3-4 days. The buyer was serious and well informed on the idea of saving with a used GPU. Buyer had bought an early covid PC with a decent 9th gen i5 CPU but very weak GPU due to shortages. For whatever reason, he decided to upgrade his whole PC instead of just his GPU to get something to keep up with the new COD game. I gave the customer an invoice, warranty, and told him to call me if he had any problems. I have not heard from him so far. There was also a lot of views/watchers on ebay, I suspect it could have sold there too. What I would do different: I would have made sure to get a 3 fan GPU. While some people may be OK with a louder GPU fan sound, eliminating that issue would be a final closed loop in the reselling process to ensure there is virtually no chance for a return. Pay closer attention to the RGB capabilities of the case and incorporate case RGB id possible. Edit: This one sold pretty quick. Made about $120 profit off this one.

Damn, I thought I used to smoke a lot. I just recently quit cigarettes, not really for health reasons so much as just got tired of spending $10+ on a pack every other day. Been vaping and it's fine as a replacement. Those UJOY disposable things are pretty cool if you want something that feels as close to a cigarette as possible. I miss it a little bit every now and then, but not nearly as much as I thought I would. I don't really have any major physical health issues myself, not yet anyway. Just mental ones. If any of you old dudes ever need someone to build a PC for you, I'm happy to do it; you pay shipping.

Wow 6ghz stock. And only 12 years ago or so I was running my 2500K at almost 5ghz... On a serious note, I have no issue with the price. If Intel wants to release niche halo products for people who are willing to pay for extra bragging rights, seems perfectly fine to me. Definitely a product that does a lot more to boost the e-peen than it does for actual performance.

I have a folder of 4k backgrounds saved to OneDrive that my PC cycles through. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AuNPATu-Cc9JjsUe4reWLBuCy5-seQ

IP has little to do with American health care costs. The reason that is so messed up is because of insurance and the for profit nature of American health care in general, and lots of other reasons, but not because of intellectual property laws. I thought health care was free in Canada?

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Yea it brings down prices in the same way stealing products from a store and then selling them cheaper in the parking lot would. A country without IP protections will see all the top engineers and inventors move away to places that will respect their work. In the US, Chinese phones are banned. I used to have one, had to get a different phone.

Competition is usually good, unless it's from China. Wonder how much stolen IP from Intel and AMD these things have. I'm guessing it's a lot.