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I find it a bit 'disturbing' seeing a(nother) former LucasArts' namesake attached.

Outlaws (1997 video game) - Wikipedia

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NtM, this has all the hallmarks of "Modern Audience, Western Developer"

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/star-wars-outlaws-main-character-already-hit-with-criticism-due-to-ubisoft-changing-actress-apperance.1669385/

Hot dang! Girlboss Protagonist is just plain nasty lookin'. I feel bad for the model; she's pretty.

Even, Horizon's Girlboss player character looks more 'put together'

On 28/03/2024 at 13:36, Sir Beregond said:

It's a solid enough card as a slot in between the 7900XT and the 7800XT. But looking at the performance vs the 4070 and 4070 Super I think the price is kind of a hard sell for what you give up in RT. It's not terrible, but it's definitely a worse card if RT matters for you and I think the 16GB vs 12GB argument at this price segment is less important. So asking for the same money as a 4070...I don't know. Its also considerably more power consumption than the 4070 and 4070 Super under load, so I don't see a win there either.

 

I guess if 12GB vs 16GB is make or break for your use case, otherwise I don't know, not excited about this card at $550.

 

Thing is, the GRE is faster, generally (in rasterization) and does RT 'fine' w/ XeSS or FSR Scaling (or lower Native-res. 1080p 144hz, here)

"Revised" uArch in the APUs, makes sense. 

I do wonder if we'll see a Navi 3x dGPU revision, though. (Ala RX 590)

ROCm 5.6 has listings for RX 7950XT/X, etc. So, maybe it is in the cards?

AMD Lists Radeon RX 7950 XTX, Other Unreleased Graphics Cards | Tom's Hardware

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AMD's ROCm 5.6 lists numerous unannounced Radeon RX 7000-series graphics cards.

2 minutes ago, pio said:

Somebody better at folding hit up @LabRat ?  He really should be up there with my point output, and he's not.  I'm not good at folding myself so I'm not much help.

mmmhmmmm.... 
No errors on the 7900GRE this whole time, either. Only the MI25s and the R5 5600 'spat out' bad WUs at any point. (and that'd been corrected yesterday)

At this point, I'm assuming my Name and CodeKey is 'cursed' (low-reliability listed?)

Next comp, I'll be switching to my other 'handle' of LRK-GT, and use a diff. email for a fresh codekey.

Driver Updates - Unlocked VRAM OCing

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-24-3-1-drivers-unlock-rx-7900-gre-memory-oc-limits-additional-performance-boost-tested.320715/

AMD's latest 24.3.1s have lifted the VRAM OC limits for the GRE, and most-all cards will clock 2500-2600MHz+

https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-7000-series/amd-radeon-rx-7900-series/amd-radeon-rx-7900-gre

Radeon.ID / AmernimeZone 24.3.1 drivers just* released.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/radeon-id-distribution/files/Release Polaris-Vega-Navi/WHQL-R-ID-Software-Hybrid-24.3.1-Win10-Win11-PolarisVegaNavi-Nebula.exe/download

(*I opened the page to check if they'd been released, <1min after posting. Dunno how I did that)

Funny they mention specifically using less VRAM; nVidia's been skimping us for awhile. Leaves me wondering if even Devs/Studios have been wanting more VRAM/memory efficiency, too.

'Love the concept.
AMD's SSG was attempting similar, years ago (no DXR, ofc)

At the least, I'm looking forward to more broad use of DirectStorage.

2 hours ago, pio said:

Well?  What's your excuse?  C'mon man, catchup!   

A donated MI25 w/ bad HBM made a bunch of bad WUs. 

My fault for not 'generically' folding. 1st thing I did was enter my codekey, name, and team.

Ended up submitting at least 4-6 bad WUs. Oops. -What I deserve for not thinking ahead lol.

Working on bringing 3x MI25s online in my 'Media Reclaimer' build.

I'd take pics, but it's a bit too LabRat even for LabRat
there are former mining risers and PSUs involved, with an open side panel, and 2x MI25s sitting on top...

Edit:
Finally, they're operational. ~100W ea. + the R5 5600 in that machine.

Fixed. Yes, it was the driver. Apparently AMD 1st Party Adrenaline doesn't equip-enable OpenCL. 
Ended up using this driver package (after clean uninstall w/ DDU)
https://www.amd.com/en/developer/resources/rocm-hub/eula/licenses.html?filename=AMD-Software-PRO-Edition-23.Q4-Win10-Win11-For-HIP.exe

30 minutes ago, firedfly said:

 

"Paused by User".  I assume he's waiting until it is closer to start time...

Correct. Though, now I'm getting a 'loop' of ready->dowload0->ready->download

I've got errands away from home to go run. If it hasn't sorted itself by the time I'm back, I'll fix it then.

23:34:41:WU02:FS01:0x23:Attempting to create OpenCL context:
23:34:41:WU02:FS01:0x23:  Configuring platform OpenCL
23:34:41:WU02:FS01:0x23:Failed to create OpenCL context:
23:34:41:WU02:FS01:0x23:No compatible OpenCL platform is available
23:34:41:WU02:FS01:0x23:ERROR:125: Failed to create a GPU-enabled OpenMM Context.

Guessing the Adrenaline driver is unhappy/missing ROCm. Will fix on return.

Anything look amiss? (No CPU folding, it *cooks* my 5800x3d lol)

Countdown pulled up on secondary screen :D

Haven't been feeling well but, will be contributing AT LEAST my 7900GRE (power detuned).

Will have an MI25 or 2 going by end of day too (hopefully).

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Interesting Times...

1 minute ago, pio said:

Can confirm I probably have the update (I install all updates blindly like a moron / since Windows won't let me avoid anyway).  Windows 11 Pro x64, fully up to date here.

 

Can also confirm, I've been having stuttering for a while now, since just after I tweaked and tuned my system.  I did updates too around the same time and the tuning showed all rock solid stable results.  I'm back to all stock now, and still stuttery.  Which was really weird for me because this new system was soooo buttery smooth when I first assembled and installed it, and also for a few days after I tweaked it.

 

Seriously debating on installing Linux at this point, but I REALLY don't want to deal with those headaches too. -_-

I'm only on Win11 because of my last GPU setup. 11 was the only reliable way to get AFMF from a 6500XT w/ rendering from a Vega.

I know I have a 'dirty install' @ this point and had intended to do a clean single-OS reinstall after my old new case comes in. 

If you need Windows-compatibility, I highly-recommend Win10 Ent IoT LTSC. -It's what I'll be going back to, now that I'm on a single-card (again).
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/a-multi-boot-adventure-windows-10-x64-enterprise-iot-ltsc-21h2.314847/
Mainstream support until January 12, 2027 and extended support until January 13, 2032.

Just got done spending over 4 hours troubleshooting GPU, Power, fTPM, NVME HMB, etc.

I was having major stuttering in games like Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, and HBS'BattleTech. 'thought it was a bad PCI-E 8-pin power cable (again) but, no.

So, After a bunch of (mostly pointless) troubleshooting, I uninstalled the Update that installed earlier today.
Suddenly 'all better'.

KB in question:

Another person w/ (suspecting) same issue:

My sys specs:

 

  I'd personally prefer the higher CFM of the AUB912VHs. Cumlatively, they're moving more air. (4x31=122CFM | 3x68=204CFM)
Then again, I'm the kinda person that puts a 9CR0812P8S03 +12V 5.5A dual-motor SanAce80, on an MI25.  (loudest fan I've yet had the 'pleasure' of hearing 1st-hand.)

1 hour ago, LabRat said:

Edit:

The 70mm AUB0712VH appears to be 31CFM (but, I cannot find a 1st-party datasheet)

 

The 92mm AUB0912VH is ~68CFM

30 minutes ago, HeyItsChris said:

 Can you confirm the cfm output of the AUB0712VH vs AUB0912VH?

 

Thanks again

Edit:

The 70mm AUB0712VH appears to be 31CFM (but, I cannot find a 1st-party datasheet)

The 92mm AUB0912VH is ~68CFM

34 minutes ago, HeyItsChris said:

@LabRatFor some reason I cannot view that image you posted...  Also it's stable, it has texture streaming issues because I'm running the game on a HDD & the game notifies me saying low streaming bandwidth due to slow HDD.  If it was running on a SSD, it wouldn't have missing texture issues.

 

By the way Vega only allows undervolting, I couldn't get it to go above 1.200v, but it did report 1.244v at one time.

 

Thanks.

:doh: The image might've corrupted; prolly my VPN+network load. Sorry about that.

Yes. As you explain(ed) it, 'texture streaming issues' makes sense. After you mentioned that, I was reminded of Id's RAGE. 

IIRC, you cannot 'configure' over 1200mv, that's correct.
As you've seen, certain vBIOS may have the LC V64/FE / 300W-MI25 1250mv max powerstate.

TBQH, I'm still impressed this card was non-functional from soap residue not long ago, and now is running like a champ.

5 hours ago, HeyItsChris said:

Another 4K gameplay video testing out R.ID 24.2.1 for Vega 56/64 and my undervolt and overclock.

 

Not *quite* stable:


Dang close tho. (and, pretty solid 60FPS w/ the settings in Radeon Settings)

Since your temps looks *fantastic*, maybe let 'er have a lil more vCore?

EHW Gonzo Journalist Update: 
It's not *just* Windows support; Win10x86 and Linux will not save your old games.

@pio has tested Steam on Linux (Kubuntu), using a Socket 939 Dual-Core Opteron 180 CPU. Unfortunately, just like Windows 8.1-> 64-bit, the Steam Client itself now requires "CMPXCHG16B" (as well as x86-64/AMD64 and SSE3).

In addition to these new onerous hardware requirements, Valve cannot even properly prompt the user to resolve the issue!
Valve's error message upon attempting to open the client reads as follows:

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Error: Sorry, this computer's CPU is too old to run Steam.

Steam requires at least an Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Opteron, with the following features:
- x86-64 (AMD64) instruction set (lm in /proc/cpuinfo flags)
- CMPXCHG16B instruction support (cx16 in /proc/cpuinfo flags)
- SSE3 instruction support (pni in /proc/cpuinfo flags)

This is notable, due to the fact @pio was using an AMD Opteron CPU at time of receiving the error. Even Valve Software is completely and utterly ignorant and incompetent in the impact and scope of this change to its userbase.
 

Sadly, this means that all games sold on Steam that were compatible w/ systems @ time of sale, are now no longer compatible with their listed system requirements.

In my objective opinion, this change from Valve Software constitutes damages to the longest-time and Core customer base of Valve Software's Steam digital distribution platform. Many of us have hundreds of dollars in games, purchased-during and ran-on the hardware listed in the system requirements.
This is easily the most anti-consumer move from Valve Software, we've seen yet.

Contractual Purchases have been violated, and the damages are easily-defined.

I personally look forward to any Legal Action regarding this completely unnecessary and burdensome scenario,

precipitated entirely by Valve Software.

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*Possible* band-aid workaround for Linux users:

Steam not run. Error: Sorry, this computer's CPU is too old to run Steam. :: Steam for Linux General Discussions

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Steam client version (build number or date): - Distribution (e.g. Ubuntu): opensuse-tumbleweed 20200501 64-bit Opted into Steam client beta?: No Have you checked for system updates?: Yes CPU: Xeon L5420...

(thanks SteamUser x_wing)

AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16GB GDDR6

"The X800 GTO of 2024"

Specifications:

Reviews:

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ASRock RX 7900 GRE Steel Legend - W1zzard @ TechPowerUp
Gigabyte RX 7900 GRE Gaming OC  - Thibaut G. @ Hardwareandco [French Language]
PowerColor RX 7900 GRE Hellhound - Hilbert Hagedoorn @ Guru3D

PowerColor RX 7900 GRE Hellhound - W1zzard @ TechPowerUp
Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Nitro+ - W1zzard @ TechPowerUp
Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Pulse - W1zzard @ TechPowerUp
Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Pure - W1zzard @ TechPowerUp

XFX RX 7900 GRE Speedster MERC 310 - toadovsky @ TweakTown

'At A Glance' AIB Partner Comparison:

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$549.99 MSRP - AMD Reference RX 7900 GRE (Note: Not Retail Available) 

-Core: 1880/2245MHz  VRAM: 2250MHz Special Feature(s): N/A.

 

$559-569.99 - ASRock RX 7900 GRE Steel Legend

-Core: 1972/2333MHz VRAM: 2250Mhz Special Feature(s): +White color motif +on/off switch for on-card illumination.

$549.99 - Gigabyte RX 7900 GRE Gaming OC

-Core:2052/2391Mhz  VRAM: 2250Mhz Special Feature(s): -May require out-of-box re-assembly* +Dual-BIOS switch.

$579.99 - PowerColor RX 7900 GRE Hellhound (Note: only 7900 GRE on Amazon, at time-of-writing)

-Core: 2013/2366Mhz VRAM: 2250Mhz Special Feature(s): +Prem. HSF. +Dual-BIOS switch. +Purple LEDs.

$599.99 - Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Nitro+

-Core: 2052/2391MHz VRAM: 2250MHz Special Feature(s): +Prem. HSF. +Dual-BIOS (w/ 3pos. switch). +ARGBsync Header. +Add. fan header. +True 3-slot. +Inclu. supp. brckt.

$549.99 - Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Pulse

-Core: 1927/2293MHz VRAM: 2250MHz Special Feature(s): N/A.

$559.99 - Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Pure

-Core: 1972/2333MHz VRAM: 2250MHz Special Feature(s): +White color motif +on/off switch for on-card illumination.

 

$569.99 - XFX RX 7900 GRE Speedster MERC 310

-Core: 2052/2245MHz VRAM: 2250Mhz Special Feature(s): +Dual-BIOS switch +Minimalist motif

 

*OP's personal experience

 

LabRat's Personal Gallery:

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2nd purchase, Gigabyte model. Returned to Newegg:

3rd purchase, Sapphire Nitro+ model. Kept:
 

 

In, LabRat

Okay so, I've got 2 weeks to get my F@H machine into a chassis and stabilized.
Can Do!

On 06/03/2024 at 09:38, ENTERPRISE said:

In the end I ended up going for an upgrade for my desktop. While the laptop sounded like a good idea, I feared I would get hit by the "Tweaking" bug, which is not something you can do with a laptop all that much.

If money allowed/allows (in the future):
IMO, a Ryzen APU - based Framework Laptop would be the closest to a 'proper' desktop replacement.

Alternatively (and personally),
I've always been attracted to the idea of having a 'main desktop' and then a Ruggedized (older-generation) laptop to take with me *anywhere* [or, even leave (hidden) in my car]

However, a decent smartphone or older phablet can almost 'stand-in' for those needs.

IMO, ARM-Android is so prolific, just about any non-x86_64-exclusive 'function' of a laptop, can be sub'd-in by a 'mobile' device.

Looks like this will be (again) on my list of games to play, while waiting on STALKER 2: Heart of Chernobyl and MW5: Clans.
 

On 04/03/2024 at 04:20, Alastair said:

Ill just wait for Battlemage. It seems like ARC A series OC'es ok. The fact that AMD gimped MPT RBT and MCT on RDNA3 means that Intel at the moment seems to be the last bastion of enthusiast GPU overclocking. 

I run too much 'old stuff' for Intel's GPU to be appropriate.
Intel has precisely 0 motivation to support and improve DX9 and DX10/10.1 performance; and I'm okay with that. Just, it makes the entire uArch-series a non-starter, for me.

It is a major bummer that AMD 'nuked' the OCing tools. However, I can see the 'technical excuse(s)', and can empathize (to a degree).

Basically, AMD cannot allow another Radeon VII debacle. 

I wholeheartedly believe end-users should be allowed to do whatever they wish with their owned hardware.

However, it's a matter of modern utility and practicality to *not* allow proliferation of such tools.

IMHO: The move towards le Reddit-tier  'tech-knowledge sharing/advice' has precipitated this.
If AMD lets their users use things like MPT, people will unwittingly spread (drastically) lifespan-shortening 'advice'; harming AMD's product/brand image and giving nVidia and Intel 'an opening' for marketing/attacks. FFS, we live in a world where criminal social media trends are blamed on the manufacturer of the target(s), not the actual criminals.
tl;dr: AMD is being practical, in an insane world.

Edit: Looks like AMD's open-source drivers on Linux, got a patch to enable legacy Overdrive API support on Navi3x?

AMD Wires Up OverDrive Overclocking For Newer RDNA3 GPUs On Linux

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For those interested in GPU overclocking, AMD has posted the patches for implementing the 'legacy' OverDrive overclocking infrastructure for newer SMU13-based Radeon RX 7000 series graphics cards with the...

[PATCH 0/4] Enable legacy OD support for SMU13

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