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Well, there is a firmware update out for the Z690 Dark Kingpin mobo, and I have to say it's looking pretty sweet. Has some nice extreme memory OC profiles from Vince (Kingpin) and Luumi. I have generic green M-die and I never dreamed it could run 7800. It couldn't with the previous firmware versions. This is not optimized or stable. Right after I flashed it I grabbed at 7800 profile from Vince in the menu, saved the settings and *BOOM* it ran. Going to be tuning it up so it is stable. Not too shabby for sticks I paid $80 each for, not even part of a kit.
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I forgot to document... even this application functions correctly on the Z690 Dark. Per-core or all-core CPU frequency can be adjusted on the fly. This is broken on the Z690 ASUS mobo.
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Overclocked benching and gaming is what I do that requires (or produces the desire) to monitor frequency. I always overclock everything that can be overclocked. I have been a Mint fan for longer than I can say and I have used Mint the most. I used it almost exclusively for many years. Sometimes I experiment, but I always come back to Mint. I recently started playing with KDE and found some things about it (aesthetically) that I liked, some I didn't. I am definitely not in love with it. I have used it less than 6 months. I like any desktop environment with a GUI/shell that closely resembles the classic Windows Vista/7 environment. I dislike any GUI/shell that does not. Cinnamon and Plasma are the closest thing to a classic Windows desktop. I tried the latest Mint on the ASUS system and no dice. Still broken. I installed the latest available 6.* kernel and still no dice. I think I like ASUS less with every product generation. I have had more issues with their garbage being broken or failing than any brand other than AMD. ASUS used to sell well-made, reliable high-quality products but they are approaching the failure rate of AMD in my experience. Below is an example of a newer CPU, same chipset, things functioning correctly using kernel 5.19.0-23-generic. I think pointing the finger at ASUS is appropriate.
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I think you are both correct. It does seems to be an ASUS-specific firmware issue. Everything functioned correctly with the 12900KS on the Z690 Dark Kingpin mobo and the 13900K currently installed in it has no issues like the ASUS mobo does. Thank you both for the replies. Since my previous post I installed openSUSE Tumbleweek with kernel 6.0.8-1 and several things changed, some better and others worse. I am planning to try Linux Mint "cutting edge" distro to see if it is better. Mint has always been one of my favorite distros anyway.
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This is the system I am struggling to make viable on Linux. I think it may be something bugged in the ACPI implementation by the dumb-dumbs at ASUS on the Strix ZX690-E. I cannot get the CPU turbo clocks to display correctly in any desirable monitoring tools. CPU-X shows the 12900KS clocks to a fixed 5.4GHz (correct) under load, still not correct at idle, but all of the "normal" things I use show either a fixed 3.4GHz (c-states disabled) or a fixed 4.1GHz (c-states enabled). I have tried KDE, POP!_OS and ZorinOS and all have the same issue. I have tried passing a variety of kernel parameters in GRUB. I have installed different packages intended for monitoring clock speeds and it is hit or miss. The couple that actually work correctly are worthless to me because they are CLI stuff I can't use the way I want to. I also wonder if it is something with the 12900KS not being recognized properly like a 12900K and 13900K. At any rate, this is a classic example of a thing that make noobs believe that Linux is not a viable replacement for Windows, and on this system it probably isn't solely for this reason. I would not embrace Linux if this were an example of normal, but I have used it enough to know it is an exception (albeit a more common problem than desired).
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At least you can play the lullaby CD to relieve the stress about them taking all of your money. That would be great, especially if it's weaponry were still functional with lots of ammo included. Perfect solution for the 85,000 armed IRS agents Brandon is sending our way.
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EVGA RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 - EKWB Quantum Vector Upgrade
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Water Coolers
Funny, I was going to say that if you beat them I wouldn't try harder. 3060 Ti is a really nice and affordable card for gamerboyz. It is absolutely not an enthusiast product. The only reason I have it is because I needed a replacement GPU on my work computer fast and cheap. Under normal circumstances I would never entertain the idea of buying consumer-grade sheeple crap below the flagship product. Sometimes I wonder if it is possible to have both. -
EVGA RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 - EKWB Quantum Vector Upgrade
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Water Coolers
@AvacadoBrother @Bastiaan_NL has several now that he will need to get busy one, not just that one. Now I need to see what (if anything) can be done about a voltage mod on this gamerboy GPU. Now that power limits are no longer an issue, it runs out of voltage way too fast. The Green Goblin sures knows how to gimp their junk. -
EVGA RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 - EKWB Quantum Vector Upgrade
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Water Coolers
Shunt mod... no more power limits... just gimped on voltage now. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9-12900KS Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI WWW.3DMARK.COM Intel Core i9-12900KS Processor, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11} /img/logo.png Mr. Fox`s 3DMark - Fire Strike score: 33541 marks with a GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (GA104) HWBOT.ORG The GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (GA104) @ 2175/2075MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Fire Strike benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #null worldwide and #2 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT. -
Hey friends! Happy Thanksgiving. Even for those that are not in the US and this is not a holiday, all of us have many things to be thankful for, even though life is very difficult sometimes. Blessings to all of you!
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Crysis, Crysis 2, Crysis 3 Remastered (my favorite franchise, rebooted)... on KDE Plasma. Very smooth experience (as usual). Proton makes it so easy.
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Creating Tables for Use in Reviews (and elsewhere)
Mr. Fox replied to EHW Ai's topic in Site Suggestions
I think there is some merit to kicking around the idea of allowing guest to post, but I think the answer to the above is yes. I would recommend removal of the option to comment apart from the designated thread to avoid fragmented discussion, even if unregistered guests are allowed to post in it. Does the forum software allow that? I would think anyone that had something important enough to share would become a registered member of the community. On the flip side, if it is not important enough to them to register, do we actually care about what they want to share? It's only my personal opinion, but I am leaning toward a no on that. If what they have to say isn't important enough, why give them a platform? -
Creating Tables for Use in Reviews (and elsewhere)
Mr. Fox replied to EHW Ai's topic in Site Suggestions
Just to be clear, I would not be an advocate for anonymous posting. Creating the thread and driving readers of the review to engage in discussion would require that they create an account (also a very positive thing) before they could post anything. That may not have been clear in the suggestion. -
Creating Tables for Use in Reviews (and elsewhere)
Mr. Fox replied to EHW Ai's topic in Site Suggestions
This above current verbiage could modified to contain a link to the associated thread and be changed to read something like: A thread related to this product review can be found at this link in the ExtremeHW Forum. We cordially invite you to participate in the discussion, provide feedback on the review, share your views or personal experience with this product. Likewise, the opening post wouldn't need anything more than a hyperlinked text bearing the title of the review above boilerplate language that says something like: Cooler Master HAF 700 Review and Build by pioneerisloud After enjoying the above review, we invite you to participate in this discussion, provide feedback on the review, share your views or personal experience with this product. Alternatively, although probably unnecessary, the opening post could include the opening paragraph from the review, like this: Cooler Master HAF 700 Review and Build by pioneerisloud Today we have been given the opportunity to review an entire “half” a computer package, if you will, courtesy of Cooler Master. This review will incorporate the newly released HAF 700 “Berserker” PC chassis, the XG850 Plus Platinum power supply, and their MasterLiquid PL360 Flux AIO water cooling kit. Cooler Master was founded in 1992, so they’re definitely not new to the table when it comes to PC components. They produce computer cases, power supplies, PC cooling for both CPU’s and GPU’s, laptop cooling pads, and computer peripherals. They’ve also produced cooling solutions for other major brands in the industry, and they’re a major sponsor of eSports competitions. Do these components we have today stand up to the ExtremeHardware standards? Well, let’s dive in and see! -
Creating Tables for Use in Reviews (and elsewhere)
Mr. Fox replied to EHW Ai's topic in Site Suggestions
Really nice thread, @iamjanco and a conversation worth having. I really like the idea of enhancing the styling, and improving the size and format of tables is a good place to start. Also a challenging one because visual variance between browsers is always a wildcard. I have tried to address the unpredictability in the past by making tables offline, saving them as an image and posting the image. Then the visual outcome is nearly guaranteed whether the review is read on a PC, Mac, smartphone, tablet or whatever. There was another matter I had mentioned to Brother @Avacado a while ago that I was going to suggest to @ENTERPRISE and never got around to it. Now could be a good time to raise the idea and incorporate it into a "reboot" of sorts. This appears at the end of each review: Want to discuss this product or give your views and feedback from your own usage ? Discuss now on the ExtremeHW Forums The link dumps you onto the landing page of the forum. There is no associated thread. The comments at the end of a review require a separate disconnected user authentication and there are seldom any public comments. It is usually us telling a peer they did a nice job on the review. Most visitors are not going to create an account and start their own thread, but they might be more inclined to engage with the community if the thread already existed. It would be better if a thread was created for each review where the public could engage with questions and feedback about the review and the product itself. I think it could drive more traffic to our community and improve engagement related to the reviews. It would also be more consistent with what we see from competing reviewers. Most of our competitors/peers that do product reviews have an associated forum thread linked at the end of the review. It could be moderated like any other forum thread, so it would not require a special process or workflow to manage it. This could also enhance the value of our reviews to the OEMs that send us products for review. Sometimes public opinion on products, or the experience of other users, does not mesh 100% with a review. Technical issues or special benefits can surface that were not identified by the person doing a review. That could be hugely helpful to the OEMs. -
A couple of recent music video releases... Dang, I totally forgot about how much I like Nita's music.
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Looks like you were fortunate to get a good CPU sample. Based on casual observations, I think I got an average sample. I haven't decided whether to keep it or roll the dice on an exchange possibly turning out better. I am just getting started tinkering with mine and I don't know how far it can go on the chiller. 5.9GHz on P cores was surprisingly easy, so it will be fun finding out where the brick wall is for chilled water. If I decide to keep it I will delid it. What are you using to cool yours? Edit: I just noticed only 4 cores enabled, LOL. Maybe someday I will try that for CPU benchmarks. Cooling is probably much easier and it makes good sense for single-core and benchmarks that only take advantage of a few cores.
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EVGA RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 - EKWB Quantum Vector Upgrade
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Water Coolers
I don't usually burn any calories worrying about it. Everyone that has a pulse likes the idea of being a winner, but I think it is highly overrated unless it means you're getting more money. But, I am not a competitive person by nature. I do get a mild sense of satisfaction knowing it bugs competitive people that I mostly don't care. Sometimes it bothers them more if they discover that the accomplishment they worked so hard to surpass represented a half-hearted and casual effort on my part. That probably qualifies me as an agitator more than a contestant. -
EVGA RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 - EKWB Quantum Vector Upgrade
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Water Coolers
What kind of reward? /img/logo.png Mr. Fox`s 3DMark11 - Performance score: 40448 marks with a GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (GA104) HWBOT.ORG The GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (GA104) @ 2070/2050MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark11 - Performance benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #null worldwide and #3 in the hardware class. Find out more... -
EVGA RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 - EKWB Quantum Vector Upgrade
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Water Coolers
So, a bit of an update. This 3060 Ti FTW3 was purchased to replace my record-setting 2080 Ti FTW3 that was shunt modded and running a 2000W vBIOS. I knocked my tower over by accident while cleaning my office and when I turned it back on again it had code 43 and "space invaders" artifacts. I was just sick about it. I love this GPU. It spent 3+ years running in almost perpetual beast mode. It ran like a top at 2250 MHz core, +1600 memory at 1.200V and pulled 950W~1050W in Time Spy, 3DMark 11 and Port Royal, and over 1100W with Furmark testing. (Yes, that is how it melted the insulation on power cables.) I tore it apart and bathed it in alcohol and visually it has no defects. I tested it with MATS and Samsung chip B0 has either failed or the BGA was fractured by the shock. I am hopeful it will be repairable and nothing else wrong with it. mats version 400.184. Testing TU102 with 20 MB of memory starting with 0 MB. Read Error Count: 0 Write Error Count: 717805 Unknown Error Count: 0 === MEMORY ERRORS BY SUBPARTITION === SUBPART READ ERRORS WRITE ERRORS UNKNOWN ERRS ------- ----------- ------------ ------------ FBIOA0 0 0 0 FBIOA1 0 0 0 FBIOB0 0 717805 0 FBIOB1 0 0 0 FBIOC0 0 0 0 FBIOC1 0 0 0 FBIOD0 0 0 0 FBIOD1 0 0 0 FBIOE0 0 0 0 FBIOE1 0 0 0 FBIOF0 0 0 0 FBIOF1 0 0 0 Failing Bits: B000 B001 B002 B003 B004 B005 B006 B007 B008 B009 B010 B011 B012 B013 B014 B015 === MEMORY ERRORS BY BIT === P : Partition (FBIO) READ 0 READ 1 READ ? P BIT READ ERRORS WRITE ERRORS UNKNOWN ERRS EXP. 1 EXP. 0 EXP. ? - --- ----------- ------------ ------------ ------ ------ ------ B 000 0 776620 0 595624 180996 0 B 001 0 688440 0 271326 417114 0 B 002 0 806002 0 655095 150907 0 B 003 0 776706 0 180896 595810 0 B 004 0 688386 0 417028 271358 0 B 005 0 747347 0 210980 536367 0 B 006 0 688395 0 417049 271346 0 B 007 0 776663 0 180955 595708 0 B 008 0 629617 0 298088 331529 0 B 009 0 747307 0 211014 536293 0 B 010 0 776535 0 595472 181063 0 B 011 0 747350 0 210957 536393 0 B 012 0 776594 0 595601 180993 0 B 013 0 747319 0 211022 536297 0 B 014 0 688416 0 417131 271285 0 B 015 0 659160 0 301303 357857 0 report.txt -
Changed my mind again. I have a friend that lives near a Micro Center. /img/logo.png Mr. Fox`s AIDA64 - Memory Read score: 119052 points with a DDR5 SDRAM HWBOT.ORG The DDR5 SDRAM @ 7200MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the AIDA64 - Memory Read benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #12 worldwide and #3 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT. /img/logo.png Mr. Fox`s CPU Frequency score: 5900 MHz with a Core i9 13900K HWBOT.ORG The Core i9 13900K @ 5900MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the CPU Frequency benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #1460 worldwide and #2 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT. /img/logo.png Mr. Fox`s Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate score: 43623 cb with a Core i9 13900K HWBOT.ORG The Core i9 13900K @ 5900MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #16 worldwide and #13 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.