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The Great Tesla M40 Adventure "Projeckt T3sla"


Avacado
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Been working on the system tonight, got to leak testing. Unfortunately so far it's not holding air pressure. It is a VERY slow leak, but enough to drive me nuts. A few of the G1/4 threads on the rads aren't creating a tight seal with my QDC's or the one slot I had for my thermal probe (Seems like a thread issue). This is very un-settling as I probably have over 30 G1/4 threaded ports to check and I would have to disassemble the case in a way that is most inconvenient .  This thing is taking waaaaay longer than I had planned, but they always do. I hate to do something I frown upon, but I might just fill her with distilled and find the leak to narrow it down. 

 

Change log 05/12/21:

 

- Rad array panel completed. 

- Casters added to base

- Loop completed. 

- Leak testing begun. 

 

*Note the GPU sag is a lot less with the side panels connected. There is nothing preventing them from moving without the side panels connected. I will try to fix this in the future. 

 

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Did you hit all the fittings with a spray bottle and soapy water while you had it under air pressure? That's the quickest way (but can be a bit messy) to find the leak outside of filling up the loop.  I don't ever leak test any of my systems on air.  I usually just run the pump on a separate power supply, or jump the 24 pin with only the pump plugged in, spread some paper towels around possible drip locations, and run the loop with distilled.

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29 minutes ago, tictoc said:

Did you hit all the fittings with a spray bottle and soapy water while you had it under air pressure? That's the quickest way (but can be a bit messy) to find the leak outside of filling up the loop.  I don't ever leak test any of my systems on air.  I usually just run the pump on a separate power supply, or jump the 24 pin with only the pump plugged in, spread some paper towels around possible drip locations, and run the loop with distilled.

This is exactly what I plan to do. Just didn't want to have to do it. 

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I'm guessing you didn't mess with the terminals on the heatkiller blocks, but if you did, that's another possible leak location.  It's easy to pinch the o-rings on those terminals if the o-rings aren't fully seated in the slot.

 

Hope you get it sorted out, and I'm excited to see that machine up and running.

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Looking good @Avacado!

The GPU sag is a bit extreme, I support the idea of making a bracket in the future :classic_laugh:

 

I always do it like you mentioned @tictoc, separate PSU and let it run for a few hours, stop and run it again with paper towels everywhere.

Never had a leak though, but I'll never power up the system without testing..

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13 minutes ago, Avacado said:

The system wouldn't hold air, but 24 hour distilled leak test was good. Going to move forward. This is where it gets hard.

 

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9 hours ago, Avacado said:

The system wouldn't hold air, but 24 hour distilled leak test was good. Going to move forward. This is where it gets hard.

 

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Well I am glad to hear it passed a fluid leak test. May just be a case of Keeping an eye on it for a few days to see if you spot a slow leak.

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Started working through some of the wiring tonight, GPU #1 is wired, GPU #2 pending a long with a * ton of other wires.

 

GPU #1 1000w

  1. 1900x
  2. Rest of MOBO
  3. M40
  4. M40
  5. GT710 off PCI-e 4x
  6. K4000 (Driving the 2 LCD 7" panels)

GPU #2 1000w (Add2Psu)

  1. M40
  2. M40
  3. M40
  4. AC Octo
  5. AC Farbwerk 360
  6. D5
  7. D5

It's a rats nest right now, but it shouldn't take too much longer.  This build BY FAR has the most cabling and has the least area to hide it. 

 

Side #1 Complete

 

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Side #2 the real PITA

 

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11 hours ago, Avacado said:

Started working through some of the wiring tonight, GPU #1 is wired, GPU #2 pending a long with a * ton of other wires.

 

GPU #1 1000w

  1. 1900x
  2. Rest of MOBO
  3. M40
  4. M40
  5. GT710 off PCI-e 4x
  6. K4000 (Driving the 2 LCD 7" panels)

GPU #2 1000w (Add2Psu)

  1. M40
  2. M40
  3. M40
  4. AC Octo
  5. AC Farbwerk 360
  6. D5
  7. D5

It's a rats nest right now, but it shouldn't take too much longer.  This build BY FAR has the most cabling and has the least area to hide it. 

 

Side #1 Complete

 

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Side #2 the real PITA

 

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Possibly just my eyes, but even though those cards are not all that heavy, does that case not have a brace for the rear of the cards to rest on or are they hovering ?

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2 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Possibly just my eyes, but even though those cards are not all that heavy, does that case not have a brace for the rear of the cards to rest on or are they hovering ?

No brace, none at all. I will attempt to add support to it later, you can't see it, but with the side panels off the 2 sides are sliding in on each other. When the side panels are on, the GPU sag goes away quite a bit. 

 

Also, they ARE heavy, solid copper waterblock with solid metal backplates. Weight is distributed evenly. 

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Yeah, I was going to say they should sag without the top panel on. At least they all sag evenly to get rid of any OCD thoughts lol.

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...I picked up one of these last week for one of the update-builds in my home-office...holds 300 pounds, just about what I need ?

  

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Alright, so success! The build is complete. ANNND a massive failure, one of the pins from the internal USB 3.0 header snapped completely off, this is a problem as I was using it to drive the 2 front monitors. For now, no output until I have the strength to add a USB 2.0 hub to run the 2 AC and 2 monitors. Does anyone have an AC Hubby 7 they can part with????

 

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Whelp. 1 card dead. MOBO won't boot following a windows update. I'm pretty much out of options here and honestly don't have the will to keep this going right now. I am going to have to take it apart to figure out what is going on and if I do, it's not going back in that case. It's pretty and big, but it is not build friendly at all. Getting socket power light and a flashing BMC_LED, just wont power on. 

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3 hours ago, Avacado said:

The dungeon county coroner released it's official autopsy last night.

 

 

 

 

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Sorry for your loss bud. However on a brighter note I loved the "Toe tag" you created for this lol, so creative.

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DId it burn through PCB?

It looks like just cap gave its life, should be able to solder a new one

Thus said, it looks like it is directly off power delivery lane

 

So I would check that power cable of psu and taste psu as well for just in case

Smell and lick taste are the best

 

15 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Sorry for your loss bud. However on a brighter note I loved the "Toe tag" you created for this lol, so creative.

I swear, I thought it was an actual product of forum, I would totally buy as sticky notepad for my home

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Good luck.🤞  I'm rooting for this build to become a reality.   

 

If Windows keeps giving you headaches with driver and GPU detection, you might think about running Linux.  I haven't messed with the the Maxwell Teslas, but Keplar Teslas were pretty painless.  If you decide to give that a go, I can definitely give you a hand. 👍

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