X3D Revision 2

[Nikado7]

  On 09/03/2023 at 21:48, neurotix said:

Yep, the top heatsink is too tall and will press against my AIO rad fans, as my Arctic Liquid Freezer II is like a 38mm rad compared to 22mm on a H150i. But we snagged an H150i lightly used off ebay for $110.

 

As you can see, my Arctic cooler fans are right up against the heatsink on my current board (the fans actually touch it)

 

Hopefully the thinner H150i will fit, we actually bought one and put it in and everything and then my wife broke the Corsair link connector on it. We did this when the small fan on the block of the Liquid Freezer failed and was making a high pitched whirring noise that just sounded terrible. Ended up returning the (broken) H150i and just bought another Liquid Freezer, we also got a few replacement fans from Arctic. So I've seen the H150i in my rig before and it should fit with the fans and clear that top heatsink (it effing better).

 

H150i I'm not thrilled about even though the mounting process is very familiar to me (I've used two H100is in the past on a 4790k and FX-8350). I don't like the rgb on the block or the cable you have to run behind your gpu and plug in to a usb header on the bottom of the mobo. I'll lose the cooling capacity of the Liquid Freezers small block fan, and aesthetically the Arctic cooler looks way way better snd matches my psu shroud. But I am not getting another full tower case even though anidees makes one that is a full tower version of what I have now, my psu eps 8 pin connectors wouldn't reach as well as my 24 pin connector, we'd have to buy extensions. Plus my desk can't fit it in the corner, I'd have to remove a little raised stand my desk has, and then there's the issue of cleaning a larger tempered glass side panel. So H150i it is and lets hope it fits. Will be doing the build tomorrow, god I hope I won't have to reinstall Linux and configure it, I'm praying for my current Linux to boot and work.

 

 

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You've got one of the nicest setups

[neurotix]

Thank you.

[Nikado7]

  On 09/03/2023 at 23:17, neurotix said:

Thank you.

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I've been staring at that board for an hour.  Is the M2 thinger a heatsink with a heat pipe and all?   How does the quick release PCIE work?  I hate the latches on pcie you can never get to them.  

[neurotix]

  On 10/03/2023 at 04:04, Nikado7 said:

 

I've been staring at that board for an hour.  Is the M2 thinger a heatsink with a heat pipe and all?   How does the quick release PCIE work?  I hate the latches on pcie you can never get to them.  

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My Strix board? Yes, the main (top) M2 slot has a heatsink with a heat pipe coming off it. I read the manual and it says to simply remove the 2 Phillips screws on either side of it and it will come off.

 

I have no idea about the quick release PCI -E. It's an Asus feature and supposed to make it much easier to remove/unlatch a graphics card. The current PCI-E 4 latches on my C8H are a pita to unlatch, especially with a very heavy card. It was bad enough getting two Evga 1080ti FTW3 out of the slots and out of the case, and we haven't even tried to remove the 4090 yet, but wife said it was problematic getting it in (its because of my case)

 

Either way, hopefully my cooler comes later and we can rebuild. Really hoping the the Intel lan it has is supported in my Linux, if my Linux will even boot at all.

[neurotix]

Sorry for hijacking your thread Nikado.

 

We rebuilt Ai Crystal yesterday from 2pm til like 8pm. Actually, to be fair, my wife rebuilt it. She took the old Arctic rad out, took my rgb fans off it, put them on the new H150i (we tested and yes the Arctic would not fit because of the top heatsinks on the board), she removed the old board and put the new one in, and she did cable management and did a particularly great job at hiding the Corsair fan splitter cable, power cable, and Corsair Link cable.

 

I basically just put the new CPU in the board, the RAM in, and took my boot drive (m.2) out of the old board and put it in the new board under that giant heatsink. I did a lot of walking back and forth to bring her tools etc. So my legs and butt are quite sore. But it's done.

 

Best part? I use Linux as my main OS and despite it throwing some errors that seem to be related to USB when it boots, it loads fine. The board has an Intel I255-V 2.5gbps lan port and I was afraid it wouldn't be supported. Well, on first boot it was there in the system tray and I set my static IP and tested streaming anime to my Pi and it worked perfectly. All drives showed up etc. The funny thing is that the Ethernet adapter did NOT work in Win10, my wife had to get the drivers from Asus website and put them on a flash stick, lol

 

I can now answer your question about the Q-Latch: it's basically a round plastic button on the right middle of the board that when pressed will release the top pci-e slot clip.

 

Anyway, I have it set up with PBO and memory OCed to 6000Mhz cas 36. Unfortunately, with the memory OCed, every time I reboot it hangs on a 15 post code for like half a minute before proceeding to boot. Hopefully Asus fixes this in a later BIOS.

 

There's my update, sorry it was long. Here's the pictures:

 

 

[Nikado7]

  On 11/03/2023 at 22:07, neurotix said:

Sorry for hijacking your thread Nikado.

 

We rebuilt Ai Crystal yesterday from 2pm til like 8pm. Actually, to be fair, my wife rebuilt it. She took the old Arctic rad out, took my rgb fans off it, put them on the new H150i (we tested and yes the Arctic would not fit because of the top heatsinks on the board), she removed the old board and put the new one in, and she did cable management and did a particularly great job at hiding the Corsair fan splitter cable, power cable, and Corsair Link cable.

 

I basically just put the new CPU in the board, the RAM in, and took my boot drive (m.2) out of the old board and put it in the new board under that giant heatsink. I did a lot of walking back and forth to bring her tools etc. So my legs and butt are quite sore. But it's done.

 

Best part? I use Linux as my main OS and despite it throwing some errors that seem to be related to USB when it boots, it loads fine. The board has an Intel I255-V 2.5gbps lan port and I was afraid it wouldn't be supported. Well, on first boot it was there in the system tray and I set my static IP and tested streaming anime to my Pi and it worked perfectly. All drives showed up etc. The funny thing is that the Ethernet adapter did NOT work in Win10, my wife had to get the drivers from Asus website and put them on a flash stick, lol

 

I can now answer your question about the Q-Latch: it's basically a round plastic button on the right middle of the board that when pressed will release the top pci-e slot clip.

 

Anyway, I have it set up with PBO and memory OCed to 6000Mhz cas 36. Unfortunately, with the memory OCed, every time I reboot it hangs on a 15 post code for like half a minute before proceeding to boot. Hopefully Asus fixes this in a later BIOS.

 

There's my update, sorry it was long. Here's the pictures:

 

 

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That card is huge lol.   It all looks good.  I keep reading that Linux loves the x3d's.   

 

I delidded mine today, but used the same crap cooler lol.   Playing with curve optimizer now.   

 

Yeah the hang on booting is ridiculous. 

 

It's definitely a new learning curve over Intel but I guess something new isn't bad. 

 

Hitting 38800 on r23.  See if I can hit 40 with this crap cooler lol.   I put a 3000 rpm fan on it trying to gain every last bit.   Haven't overclocked the cpu yet though.  

 

 

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by Nikado7

[Nikado7]

 

Edited March 12, 2023 by Nikado7

[Sir Beregond]

  On 12/03/2023 at 00:20, Nikado7 said:

 

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When you finally hit 40k:

 

[Nikado7]

  On 12/03/2023 at 01:40, Sir Beregond said:

When you finally hit 40k:

 

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That was the plan lol seems I'm stuck.  Still impressed being a little air cooler.  Garage is open computer has like 10c air blowing on it.   It'll be -5c or something in a couple nights maybe it'll hit it then.   Or maybe my damn Optimus will ship.  

[Nikado7]

WE DID IT LADIES!

 

Manually did 1.25v 5.3.  Stock was boosting the hell out of voltage.

 

 

 

5.35 ccd0, 5.3ccd1, 1.27

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[Sir Beregond]

  On 12/03/2023 at 03:44, Nikado7 said:

WE DID IT LADIES!

 

Manually did 1.25v 5.3.  Stock was boosting the hell out of voltage.

 

 

 

5.35 ccd0, 5.3ccd1, 1.27

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Nice job man, seriously well done. And talk about a nice multi-core uplift. My 5900X tops out around 24.3k with some trickery.

[Nikado7]

  On 12/03/2023 at 06:28, Sir Beregond said:

Nice job man, seriously well done. And talk about a nice multi-core uplift. My 5900X tops out around 24.3k with some trickery.

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Its amazing cause it did that 40,442 at 217w.   I think the x3d is even more efficient.  

[neurotix]

I'll be doing it soon too. From what I understand or have heard, ratio overclocking on X3D chips is supposedly not possible (they're locked and you have to use PBO). However, in my Asus bios per-CCX overclocking menu, it looked like I could overclock the two CCX manually (probably will try 5.0/5.3 with 1.25v). I don't know if it will work or not though.

 

Congrats on the score!

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[Nikado7]

  On 12/03/2023 at 16:54, neurotix said:

I'll be doing it soon too. From what I understand or have heard, ratio overclocking on X3D chips is supposedly not possible (they're locked and you have to use PBO). However, in my Asus bios per-CCX overclocking menu, it looked like I could overclock the two CCX manually (probably will try 5.0/5.3 with 1.25v). I don't know if it will work or not though.

 

Congrats on the score!

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Thanks.  Im very impressed with it.   Look at this little engine that could lol.  Just test setup so I didn't go to any lengths making it look good.  

 

 

 

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[neurotix]

  On 12/03/2023 at 19:28, Nikado7 said:

 

Thanks.  Im very impressed with it.   Look at this little engine that could lol.  Just test setup so I didn't go to any lengths making it look good.  

 

 

 

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You need one of the bench tables that damric was giving out for foldathon prizes. I have one, but you've already seen my system and I prefer to have it in my case with a ton of rgb lighting. I might find a use for the bench table someday. I'd give you a link to get one but I'd have to do some digging to find it.

 

Also, see my other topic about RAM.

[Nikado7]

  On 12/03/2023 at 19:31, neurotix said:

 

 

You need one of the bench tables that damric was giving out for foldathon prizes. I have one, but you've already seen my system and I prefer to have it in my case with a ton of rgb lighting. I might find a use for the bench table someday. I'd give you a link to get one but I'd have to do some digging to find it.

 

Also, see my other topic about RAM.

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It was $20 maybe 15, works fantastic really.  Just needed something to mount a board to and throw out in the garage.  I am so disconnected with it I use a security camera to watch the code readout lol.  

[neurotix]

  On 13/03/2023 at 02:03, Nikado7 said:

 

It was $20 maybe 15, works fantastic really.  Just needed something to mount a board to and throw out in the garage.  I am so disconnected with it I use a security camera to watch the code readout lol.  

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Lol that's awesome and very geeky

[Nikado7]

I've been trying to beat scatterbenchs best R23 result.    5.425 CCD0  5.325 CCD1  1.32v

 

  

 

 

 

 

I know I shoulda done more than take pics with my phone so if you can't read it.....40,835

 

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[Sir Beregond]

  On 14/03/2023 at 03:25, Nikado7 said:

I've been trying to beat scatterbenchs best R23 result.    5.425 CCD0  5.325 CCD1  1.32v

 

  

 

 

 

 

I know I shoulda done more than take pics with my phone so if you can't read it.....40,835

 

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I am guessing this is still true with Zen 4, but one of the tricks that can help get a higher score on my Zen 3 system was to set the Priority on Cinebench in Windows task manager Details to "Realtime". 

 

The other trick on my Zen 3 system that @J7SC_Orion made me aware of was disabling the L1 and L2 prefetcher in the BIOS, which gave me another multi-core score boost. I am guessing this might still be a thing on Zen 4. Worth checking these out if you haven't tried yet.

 

 

[Nikado7]

  On 16/03/2023 at 15:40, Sir Beregond said:

I am guessing this is still true with Zen 4, but one of the tricks that can help get a higher score on my Zen 3 system was to set the Priority on Cinebench in Windows task manager Details to "Realtime". 

 

The other trick on my Zen 3 system that @J7SC_Orion made me aware of was disabling the L1 and L2 prefetcher in the BIOS, which gave me another multi-core score boost. I am guessing this might still be a thing on Zen 4. Worth checking these out if you haven't tried yet.

 

 

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Yeah I do the realtime thing.  Also played with safe mode.  Optimus still aint shipped.  

[Sir Beregond]

  On 16/03/2023 at 17:15, Nikado7 said:

 

Yeah I do the realtime thing.  Also played with safe mode.  Optimus still aint shipped.  

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Not surprised about the Optimus. Mine took a bit to ship, and definitely a bit longer than it said.