Nvidia’s new RTX 5080 and 5090 graphics cards are sold out everywhere

[Kaz]

 

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In less than an hour after going on sale last week, Nvidia’s latest GeForce RTX 5080 and 5090 graphics cards have all disappeared from physical and online retailers across the U.S. The inventory dried up so fast that it seems like Nvidia may not have had many to sell in the first place, which has prompted people to start calling it a “paper launch.”

Before the launch last week, Nvidia’s head of GeForce community Tim Adams warned everyone that the new GPUs might be hard to find: “We expect significant demand for the GeForce RTX 5090 and 5080 and believe stock-outs may happen.”

 

Nvidia’s new RTX 5080 and 5090 graphics cards are sold out everywhere

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The new GPUs disappeared within minutes and aren’t expected back for a few weeks to months

 

Not really news to us, but here's confirmation for anyone who struggled to buy a 50 series.

[Sir Beregond]

Paper launch.

 

I was beating up on AMD for not showing more of RDNA4 at CES, but I might have to eat my words and say them waiting is making more sense by the day. Don't get me wrong...they still have to execute it correctly for it to fully make sense, and they can screw it up, but if:

 

• 9070 XT can match 4080 / 5070 Ti in raster, then the marginal increase in the 50-series over the 40-series is a win for AMD in this situation as that means they remain competitive in current market segments
• If they catch up to 4070 Ti'ish levels of RT, then they are not that far behind Nvidia anymore like RDNA2 and RDNA3 were.
• If FSR4 is a rock solid advancement that can rival DLSS.
• If they price it correctly. Quit with this "Nvidia price minus $50 BS"
• If they have a real release with real volume.

If all that is true, then AMD wins here for the mainstream, exactly what they were going for.

 

The 50-series specs for the hardware below the 5090 just looks flat out phoned in for this generation with at best ~5% increases in shaders over their 40-series counterparts. And the 5080 reviews show how that's working out. I don't see how anyone looks at the 5080 and below and isn't ultimately massively disappointed. AMD has a prime opportunity here to appeal to that. They usually never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, but at the same time they didn't rush out a launch like they usually do. Maybe they're learning. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Edited February 4 by Sir Beregond

[Slaughtahouse]

25 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

Paper launch.

 

I was beating up on AMD for not showing more of RDNA4 at CES, but I might have to eat my words and say them waiting is making more sense by the day. Don't get me wrong...they still have to execute it correctly for it to fully make sense, and they can screw it up, but if:

 

• 9070 XT can match 4080 / 5070 Ti in raster, then the marginal increase in the 50-series over the 40-series is a win for AMD in this situation as that means they remain competitive in current market segments
• If they catch up to 4070 Ti'ish levels of RT, then they are not that far behind Nvidia anymore like RDNA2 and RDNA3 were.
• If FSR4 is a rock solid advancement that can rival DLSS.
• If they price it correctly. Quit with this "Nvidia price minus $50 BS"
• If they have a real release with real volume.

If all that is true, then AMD wins here for the mainstream, exactly what they were going for.

 

The 50-series specs for the hardware below the 5090 just looks flat out phoned in for this generation with at best ~5% increases in shaders over their 40-series counterparts. And the 5080 reviews show how that's working out. I don't see how anyone looks at the 5080 and below and isn't ultimately massively disappointed. AMD has a prime opportunity here to appeal to that. They usually never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, but at the same time they didn't rush out a launch like they usually do. Maybe they're learning. I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

In a nutshell you’re asking for the 7900 XTX at $600.

 

I don’t think you’ll see much of a change from AMD on the cost front. They would rather engineer and market software solutions to compete with Nvidia with “quality” than simply offer raw performance at a much lower price. This is one of the reasons why RDNA 4 is delayed, with the cost of the Nvidia Blackwell XX70 series likely being the number #1 reason.

 

I expect the “msrp” for 9070 and 9070XT at $500 and $700 respectively. With most partner models selling for at least $50 premium. AMD will want their margins and mix in pending tariffs, I don’t see how they can get the price down much further. If they’re throwing up better RT and have a strong competitor to DLSS, they really should not undercut themselves.

 

A good case is Call of Duty. CoD runs fast on AMD, with the 7900 XTX trading blows with the 4090 at less than half the price. CoD dominates gaming marketshare, with it being (again, for 16 years in a row) the highest $ sales for a video game in the US market. It’s no wonder AMD had IGN at CES play CoD with RDNA 4. They will lean into this and push their partnership with CoD to help market FSR4. 

 

If they keep making strategic plays with FSR in the most popular games for 2025 like the upcoming Monster Hunter Wilds, I think they could make some inroads in the future. 

 

If we’re just getting performance two years ago at a small cost reduction, there is really no compelling reason to leave Nvidia for AMD. Nvidia supply will eventually catch up and the hype for Nvidia has never been higher. 

 

 

[Sir Beregond]

1 hour ago, Slaughtahouse said:

 

In a nutshell you’re asking for the 7900 XTX at $600.

 

I don’t think you’ll see much of a change from AMD on the cost front. They would rather engineer and market software solutions to compete with Nvidia with “quality” than simply offer raw performance at a much lower price. This is one of the reasons why RDNA 4 is delayed, with the cost of the Nvidia Blackwell XX70 series likely being the number #1 reason.

 

I expect the “msrp” for 9070 and 9070XT at $500 and $700 respectively. With most partner models selling for at least $50 premium. AMD will want their margins and mix in pending tariffs, I don’t see how they can get the price down much further. If they’re throwing up better RT and have a strong competitor to DLSS, they really should not undercut themselves.

 

A good case is Call of Duty. CoD runs fast on AMD, with the 7900 XTX trading blows with the 4090 at less than half the price. CoD dominates gaming marketshare, with it being (again, for 16 years in a row) the highest $ sales for a video game in the US market. It’s no wonder AMD had IGN at CES play CoD with RDNA 4. They will lean into this and push their partnership with CoD to help market FSR4. 

 

If they keep making strategic plays with FSR in the most popular games for 2025 like the upcoming Monster Hunter Wilds, I think they could make some inroads in the future. 

 

If we’re just getting performance two years ago at a small cost reduction, there is really no compelling reason to leave Nvidia for AMD. Nvidia supply will eventually catch up and the hype for Nvidia has never been higher. 

 

 

I don't disagree with your points at all. Imo, $700 and $500 would be a mistake and one of those things that won't gain them any market share for the reasons you stated. Its the whole Nvidia price minus $50 again. What RDNA3 showed is that that's a losing strategy. I'm hoping they learned that lesson.

 

And yes if it's between 7900 XT and 7900 XTX raster and 4070 Ti in RT, that's a massive RT uplift that if FSR4 ends up being a real hit would make the 9070 XT and 9070 real threats to the 5070 and 5070 Ti. All AMD has to do at that point is price them correctly to woo the market. Nvidia price minus $50 ain't it.

 

Now there's a lot of ifs above I'll grant you. 

[Slaughtahouse]

9 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

I don't disagree with your points at all. Imo, $700 and $500 would be a mistake and one of those things that won't gain them any market share for the reasons you stated. Its the whole Nvidia price minus $50 again. What RDNA3 showed is that that's a losing strategy. I'm hoping they learned that lesson.

 

And yes if it's between 7900 XT and 7900 XTX raster and 4070 Ti in RT, that's a massive RT uplift that if FSR4 ends up being a real hit would make the 9070 XT and 9070 real threats to the 5070 and 5070 Ti. All AMD has to do at that point is price them correctly to woo the market. Nvidia price minus $50 ain't it.

 

Now there's a lot of ifs above I'll grant you. 

I agree with you on the pricing, I just don't expect RDNA 4 to really be that catalyst for them to carve out market share. I think FSR 4 will be the start of it, if the reviews check out and highlight it's better than XESS. All signs point it to be competitive, but I remain extremely skeptical that it would be compelling enough to really disrupt the market.

 

Right now, there is so much demand that I don't see why AMD would dramatically reduce prices to gain market share in the desktop market. Even if MSRP was say at $600 for the 9070 XT, I don't expect it to be available at that price for the average consumer.

 

Maybe UDNA will bring some unique opportunities for AMD to be more competitive throughout the entire gaming stack.

[Sir Beregond]

1 hour ago, Slaughtahouse said:

I agree with you on the pricing, I just don't expect RDNA 4 to really be that catalyst for them to carve out market share. I think FSR 4 will be the start of it, if the reviews check out and highlight it's better than XESS. All signs point it to be competitive, but I remain extremely skeptical that it would be compelling enough to really disrupt the market.

 

Right now, there is so much demand that I don't see why AMD would dramatically reduce prices to gain market share in the desktop market. Even if MSRP was say at $600 for the 9070 XT, I don't expect it to be available at that price for the average consumer.

 

Maybe UDNA will bring some unique opportunities for AMD to be more competitive throughout the entire gaming stack.

Well they weren't gaining marketshare in the RDNA3 era with that pricing strategy, so sure...I can guess they might be dumb about it again. But one hopes they learned that lesson. They stated their goal is to gain marketshare in the mainstream. No one's going to ditch the Nvidia options over $50 in my opinion.

[Slaughtahouse]

3 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Well they weren't gaining marketshare in the RDNA3 era with that pricing strategy, so sure...I can guess they might be dumb about it again. But one hopes they learned that lesson. They stated their goal is to gain marketshare in the mainstream. No one's going to ditch the Nvidia options over $50 in my opinion.

Agreed and agreed.

 

Also: AMD Radeon RX 9070 series press conference reportedly set for late February - VideoCardz.com

 

I'll get a new thread going for it