Build Log: The Manhattan Project

[Barefooter]

Hey bud, just made my way over here.  Following along for the ride.

[ENTERPRISE]

On 10/5/2020 at 6:32 AM, iamjanco said:

^lol, you do like your toying with Photoshop, eh?

 

Anyway, an update: I managed to nail down a Xeon Cascade Lake W-3265 for the SR-3. It's a newer release than the Skylake W-3175X, somewhat cooler TDP-wise (by 50W), and coupled with the SR-3 will allow for 64 lanes (instead of the older cpu's 48). 

 

Following is an image of the actual CPU I'll be getting:

 

 

The QVL for the SR-3 (CPUs):

 

 

I expect the chip to arrive sometime early next week, if not sooner.

 

Mouth waters ! Waiting impatiently for an update

[EHW Ai]

3 hours ago, Barefooter said:

Hey bud, just made my way over here.  Following along for the ride.

 

3 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

 

Mouth waters ! Waiting impatiently for an update

 

Thanks guys; and welcome, B!

[EHW Ai]

So the XEON W-3265 should be here tomorrow or Saturday, and I went ahead and ordered a handful of LGA 3647 cpu carriers from TE Connectivity to have a few extra on hand.

 

They're spec'd for narrow-ILM, non-fabric use:

 

 

See TE's LGA3647 Socket Instruction Sheet (PDF file) if you'd like to know more.

 

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[ENTERPRISE]

40 minutes ago, iamjanco said:

So the XEON W-3265 should be here tomorrow or Saturday, and I went ahead and ordered a handful of LGA 3647 cpu carriers from TE Connectivity to have a few extra on hand.

 

They're spec'd for narrow-ILM, non-fabric use:

 

 

See TE's LGA3647 Socket Instruction Sheet (PDF file) if you'd like to know more.

 

I wondered what that was for a moment, but basically the same sort of thing with TR4, difference is that CPU comes with it. 

[EHW Ai]

On 08/10/2020 at 17:32, ENTERPRISE said:

I wondered what that was for a moment, but basically the same sort of thing with TR4, difference is that CPU comes with it. 

 

Kinda sorta, E, with the difference being the TR4 socket still provides a mechanism for proper CPU alignment with the socket as you lock it down. In the case of the 3647 socket, you essentially mount the CPU to a heatsink (or waterblock) first, then install that combined package by lowering it manually into the socket. There are guide pins on what's called the socket's top bolster which are used to help line things up, but you do have to a lot more careful than you do in the case of your conventional desktop CPUs.

 

Upgrading an (e.g.) MacPro can be especially difficult which some think takes nerves of steel. I actually had to chuckle once or twice while reading that thread, especially when they pointed out what de8auer did during his video about delidding a W-3175X.

 

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[J7SC_Orion]

I love the TR4/x / Epyc socket mounting mechanism...never had a problem with them, easy as 1-2-3. All my bending-pins-back skills I acquired with LG2011 series are laying dormant now. But as you know, DerBauer managed to mess up a TR4/x socket accidentally a few days ago...it can be done...

Edited October 8, 2020 by J7SC_Orion

[EHW Ai]

3 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

I love the TR4/x / Epyc socket mounting mechanism...never had a problem with them, easy as 1-2-3. All my bending-pins-back skills I acquired with LG2011 series are laying dormant now. But as you know, DerBauer managed to mess up a TR4/x socket accidentally a few days ago...it can be done...

 

Yeah, I got the feeling he was more focused on his (e.g.) camera's focus than he was on what he was actually doing when that happened. But yes, accidents can and obviously do happen.

[ENTERPRISE]

21 hours ago, iamjanco said:

 

Kinda sorta, E, with the difference being the TR4 socket still provides a mechanism for proper CPU alignment with the socket as you lock it down. In the case of the 3647 socket, you essentially mount the CPU to a heatsink (or waterblock) first, then install that combined package by lowering it manually into the socket. There are guide pins on what's called the socket's top bolster which are used to help line things up, but you do have to a lot more careful than you do in the case of your conventional desktop CPUs.

 

 

Upgrading an (e.g.) MacPro can be especially difficult which some think takes nerves of steel. I actually had to chuckle once or twice while reading that thread, especially when they pointed out what de8auer did during his video about delidding a W-3175X.

 

Thanks for the lesson. Never used this type of socket before. Though all in all sounds more involved than it needs to be, but it is Intel after all lol.

[J7SC_Orion]

3 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Thanks for the lesson. Never used this type of socket before. Though all in all sounds more involved than it needs to be, but it is Intel after all lol.

  

I can picture you slotting in a 5950X in a short while in 10 sec flat, humming your fav tune...meanwhile, Iamjanco will be busy aligning his CPU-to-3647-socket with laser measuring equipment 

[ENTERPRISE]

16 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

  

I can picture you slotting in a 5950X in a short while in 10 sec flat, humming your fav tune...meanwhile, Iamjanco will be busy aligning his CPU-to-3647-socket with laser measuring equipment 

Hahaha ! I really did like the TR4 mounting method...with all those pins, it was kinda necessary. 

[Bastiaan_NL]

That is some great news! 
I'm stoked for you, and I can't wait to see more updates

As for the cpu mounting, nothing beats the lga 115x cpu mounting imo. I love AMD, but pulling the cooler/waterblock with some sticky paste is anxiety level 9000+ 

[EHW Ai]

On 10/10/2020 at 17:53, Bastiaan_NL said:

That is some great news! 
I'm stoked for you, and I can't wait to see more updates

As for the cpu mounting, nothing beats the lga 115x cpu mounting imo. I love AMD, but pulling the cooler/waterblock with some sticky paste is anxiety level 9000+ 

 

Thanks bud 

 

I'm going to see if I can't make a short video of the mounting process for the heat sink I'll be using to initially test the cpu. The Noctua NH-U12S DX-3647 should be here by the end of this coming week.

 

No laser siting necessary, but I will be using a 12.5 in/lb preset torque driver to tighten things up.

Edited July 1, 2021 by iamjanco

[EHW Ai]

The CPU carriers TE Connectivity (TE AMP) sent me showed up. Best online packaging, ordering, shipping experience I've ever had:

 

 

The top side of the carrier:

 

 

The underside of the carrier. Note the "TIM BREAKER" tip on the upper right, as well as the pin one alignment triangle on the upper left (not highlighted):

 

 

I'll be writing a bit more about breaking the tim in a future post. In the meantime, it's something I've noted in a couple of posts elsewhere that apparently some stress about because of the potential for damage to the cpu pins on the motherboard if improperly accomplished when removing the heat sink or water block (depending on the use case).

 

 

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[ENTERPRISE]

Thanks for the update, glad they arrived safely to your door step. They are certainly some hefty carriers, but I kind of expect no less for a CPU like that lol.

[Sir Beregond]

On 10/9/2020 at 2:47 PM, ENTERPRISE said:

Thanks for the lesson. Never used this type of socket before. Though all in all sounds more involved than it needs to be, but it is Intel after all lol.

I was thinking the exact same thing. 

 

Anyway, this looks like a really cool build. Looking forward to the updates!

[Bastiaan_NL]

It's good to have a few spare ones

[EHW Ai]

Thanks again, everyone 

 

On 13/10/2020 at 15:02, Bastiaan_NL said:

It's good to have a few spare ones

 

Actually, given their price (roughly US $4 each), it is. der8auer recently ruined an expensive ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming motherboard and felt that the main reason that happened was because he took the cpu out of its carrier frame once too often:

 

 

The carrier frames for such large cpus are a cheap enough part that there's no reason not to have extras on hand. While I do wonder though whether the real reason he dropped the cpu onto the socket had something more to to do with his focus on making the video over the task itself, he's almost always good at what he does and actually influenced me to buy extras 

 

 

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[Bastiaan_NL]

That hurts to watch  After seeing that I totally understand why you have 6 of them! And for only 4 dollars each it's nothing compared to a board or a cpu. 

Looking at the video, he might have been a bit distracted. But it almost looks like you need 3 hands to take out the carrier.. 

[ENTERPRISE]

13 hours ago, iamjanco said:

Thanks again, everyone

 

 

Actually, given their price (roughly US $4 each), it is. der8auer recently ruined an expensive ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming motherboard and felt that the main reason that happened was because he took the cpu out of its carrier frame once too often:

 

 

The carrier frames for such large cpus are a cheap enough part that there's no reason not to have extras on hand. While I do wonder though whether the real reason he dropped the cpu onto the socket had something more to to do with his focus on making the video over the task itself, he's almost always good at what he does and actually influenced me to buy extras

 

 

 

Yowzer...Yep $4 well spent lol.

[Sir Beregond]

Yikes, that hurt to watch.

[EHW Ai]

So while I'm waiting for the rest of the bits and pieces and tools that I need to make the SR-3 build power ready (they should all be here the next few days), I figured I'd dust off the Nikon D810 and my Polaroid MP4 copy stand, and get them ready to start shooting the Sports Illustrated shots (you know, the really sexy gals in skimpy bikini shots).

 

The D810 is actually mounted to the MP4 using a macro rail combo I put together sometime back specifically for use with the MP4, which allows me to adjust critical fine focus. The Nikon itself will be tethered to my tablet by way of a router/software app (qdslrdashboard) combo that allows communication and control of a number of camera functions wirelessly. 

 

In other words, I won't need to look through the camera's viewfinder to take pix. Which is obviously a good thing, because I'd need a step ladder to do so otherwise 

 

I'll work on getting the router/app combo set up tomorrow.

 

Also considering dusting the Elinchrom ELB strobes off for the really nice pix; but will probably wait to do that until I'm using water to cool the build. In the meantime, a pic of the current setup follows, as well as an enlarged view of that pic:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[ENTERPRISE]

That is nice man. Not being much of a camera man, I did not think you could take over the camera functions wirelessly. What a bonus that is. Love the arm setup for the camera as well, that is just ace. So has this bench been powered up yet ? 

[schuck6566]

SWEET! Although I gotta admit when I saw that massive cooler under the camera my first though was "Finally! Someones gonna disprove the twin towers conspiracy theories!"

[Bastiaan_NL]

That is pretty cool! I can't wait for those sexy pics

Would be funny to try climbing a ladder and use the camera that way, just don't fall on the hardware...