videocardz NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080(Ti) 20GB allegedly tested

[ENTERPRISE]

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 A Chinese content creator “Big hardware player” has allegedly got access to an engineering sample of the GeForce RTX 3080 with 20GB.

 

According to the screenshot that has been posted by the leaker, the graphics card was manufactured by Colorful, the subsystem ID reveals. The GPU-Z information is actually quite confusing, as the graphics card allegedly has clock speeds of RTX 3090 model of 1395 MHz base clock and 1695 MHz boost clock, but the software clearly recognizes the graphics card as RTX 3080, which seems strange considering that this SKU does not exist yet and TechPowerUP have not updated the software to support it

Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080ti-20gb-allegedly-tested 

 

 

[J7SC_Orion]

3 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080ti-20gb-allegedly-tested 

 

 

 

I am sure that the '3080 Ti' exists, just as the 2080 Ti 'Super' apparently existed (but was never released, depending how you categorize the MSI Gaming Z {not X} Trio). Whether they'll release the 3080 Ti remains to be seen, but I figure eventually 'yes', probably just later than originally planned. If the GPUz screenie  is accurate, it seems to suggest the same number of Cuda as the 3090 and the same GDDR6X, just 20 GB instead of 24 GB...could actually be a killer card for oc'ing  

[ENTERPRISE]

Yeah from the start they said it would be a a 3090 with basically 4GB less VRAM....Which seems dumb to me personally, keeping it so close to the 3090, but it is Nvidia...there is no logic. Will be interesting if it does come to pass.

[ENTERPRISE]

Looks to be fairly debunked haha: 

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/possibly-worst-rtx-3080-ti-leak-ever

[J7SC_Orion]

14 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Looks to be fairly debunked haha: 

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/possibly-worst-rtx-3080-ti-leak-ever

  

Yeah, but 3080 Ti rumours are like the cat w/ nine lives...or as Arnold likes to put it...

 

 

 

[Sir Beregond]

At this point I think there are plenty of plans for a 3080 20GB or a 3080 Ti, but I don't think we'll see these products. Considering the current landscape, there is no reason for Nvidia to further segment the GA102 die into additional SKUs which will either cannibalize 3090 sales, or else further hurt efforts for stock on existing 3090 and 3080 products if they have to divert chips to a 3080 Ti. My thought is that by the time stock becomes somewhat normal, we'll be close enough to a 40-series that it won't matter if there is a 3080 Ti or not.

 

Now my honest opinion is that the 3080 should have been released as a 12GB 384-bit card and then you wouldn't have had everyone crying about VRAM and you could then avoid the whole 3080 Ti/20GB 3080 thing altogether.

Edited January 30, 2021 by Sir Beregond

[J7SC_Orion]

24 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

At this point I think there are plenty of plans for a 3080 20GB or a 3080 Ti, but I don't think we'll see these products. Considering the current landscape, there is no reason for Nvidia to further segment the GA102 die into additional SKUs which will either cannibalize 3090 sales, or else further hurt efforts for stock on existing 3090 and 3080 products if they have to divert chips to a 3080 Ti. My thought is that by the time stock becomes somewhat normal, we'll be close enough to a 40-series that it won't matter if there is a 3080 Ti or not.

 

Now my honest opinion is that the 3080 should have been released as a 12GB 384-bit card and then you wouldn't have had everyone crying about VRAM and you could then avoid the whole 3080 Ti/20GB 3080 thing altogether.

 

Yeah, I decided to not wait any longer re. will they/won't they actually release a 20GB 3080 Ti, especially as an unexpected opportunity arose this morning  By the time the 3080 / Ti 20 GB VRAM does appear and gets hyped in reviews, it will be out-of-stock, out-of-stock' again anyhow.

[ENTERPRISE]

No way I'm waiting for any other Nvidia GPU, 3090 or bust for me.

[Sir Beregond]

3 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

Yeah, I decided to not wait any longer re. will they/won't they actually release a 20GB 3080 Ti, especially as an unexpected opportunity arose this morning  By the time the 3080 / Ti 20 GB VRAM does appear and gets hyped in reviews, it will be out-of-stock, out-of-stock' again anyhow.

Congrats!

 

At this point I will continue to wait for a 3080. 3090 even at MSRP is way more than I want to spend on a single component. Frankly so is the 3080 once it starts getting above $800 for the non-FE models. I am toying with the idea of 3070 but that one would definitely have to be around the $500 - $600 range for me to really consider it. So I think 3080 for me. The only problem I am having is determining what will actually fit in my O11-Dynamic (non-XL version, just the regular) in terms of width and length (due to reservoir) AND has waterblocks available. I've ruled out Strix and FTW3 models due to width. TUF and XC3 looks like they'll fit width wise, but worried about them being too long. FE would be fine, but I am going to just assume that will be impossible to really find at this rate. MSI models look to be comically way too long. Gigabyte not sure but looked like some had detached power connectors from the PCB.

 

I'm not interested in distro blocks and prefer a pump/reservoir unit. Worst case I'll rethink my plan for a 360 rad on top, 360 rad on bottom strategy and do maybe a 240 up top, 360 bottom, and shift the reservoir up so its out of the way. Just depends really. Could also do a radiator on the side maybe...might crowd it a little bit.

Edited January 31, 2021 by Sir Beregond

[J7SC_Orion]

...two out of four systems (not counting developmental and back-up servers etc) in my home-office are on 4K monitors. One 4K system uses dual w-cooled 2080 Tis, but the other is still on 2x/SLI 980 Classifieds, as I usually skip a GPU generation. However, 4K at 4GB VRAM is not fun...

 

...you're right re. the length (and for that matter weight  ) of the 3090 Strix OC, but it does fit into one of the cases currently hosting a pair of 980s. Besides, I plan to w-cool the 3090 as soon as possible.

 

...for my use-cases, whether for business and/or personal, I won't invest in a new GPU in 2021 that doesn't have AT LEAST 16GB of VRAM. That doesn't make the price drop any lower, but I know I got a decent deal today, even if it was a business expense...

[Sir Beregond]

Hence the 3090...I got you.

 

I am not at 4K (I'm at 1440p right now). Admittedly 3080 is probably a little overkill, but considering the price I intend to hold onto it for many years like I did my current 980. At the very least, skip 40-series, maybe look at 50-series. Total VRAM is less a concern for me at 1440p...I think I'll be ok with 10GB. And if not...well guess we'll see.

Edited January 31, 2021 by Sir Beregond

[mouacyk]

I stopped waiting as well.  It finally dawned on me that there is no performance gap between the 3080 and 3090 for the TI to fill.  Unless you have a specific need for 20GB or 24GB VRAM, the 3080 is as good as it gets for Ampere, for all things gaming.

 

As always, no to scalpers though -- find some other means.

[J7SC_Orion]

As mentioned, I do have a need for more than 10 GB (both 4K productivity + gaming). That said, I had almost given up until I stumbled upon the Strix 3090 which was just being checked in to the store's shelving...still even had the wholesale shipping info on it. Anyway, those things are not cheap, but I got it at MSRP and no tariff...scalper-free zone  (well, unless you view NVidia as one...)

[ENTERPRISE]

On 2/1/2021 at 10:39 PM, J7SC_Orion said:

As mentioned, I do have a need for more than 10 GB (both 4K productivity + gaming). That said, I had almost given up until I stumbled upon the Strix 3090 which was just being checked in to the store's shelving...still even had the wholesale shipping info on it. Anyway, those things are not cheap, but I got it at MSRP and no tariff...scalper-free zone  (well, unless you view NVidia as one...)

 

I believe a lot of people are taking what they can get, especially if they can keep it to MSRP. So many people sick of waiting for what may be. The situation stinks and Nvidia's really off SKU fragmentation approach does not help either and further confuses they hell out of people. For me the Ampere series makes absolutely no sense. for any of the SKU's when it comes to the VRAM counts being used, they either gimp you (3060Ti/3080) or they go mental (3090).

 

Especially the 3060 series. The Ti variant has always been the unicorn of the bunch, however for some reason Nvidia chose to give the 3060Ti only 8GB VRAM, yet its smaller non Ti brother the 3060 gets 12 Gb VRAM ? What is that ? 

 

I miss the days when the Ti meant you go the best of both worlds with respect to CUDA cores and VRAM. This generation the Ti means nothing. 

 

[schuck6566]

5 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

 

I believe a lot of people are taking what they can get, especially if they can keep it to MSRP. So many people sick of waiting for what may be. The situation stinks and Nvidia's really off SKU fragmentation approach does not help either and further confuses they hell out of people. For me the Ampere series makes absolutely no sense. for any of the SKU's when it comes to the VRAM counts being used, they either gimp you (3060Ti/3080) or they go mental (3090).

 

Especially the 3060 series. The Ti variant has always been the unicorn of the bunch, however for some reason Nvidia chose to give the 3060Ti only 8GB VRAM, yet its smaller non Ti brother the 3060 gets 12 Gb VRAM ? What is that ? 

 

I miss the days when the Ti meant you go the best of both worlds with respect to CUDA cores and VRAM. This generation the Ti means nothing. 

 

C'mon, I'm sure they'll squeeze 1 more variant out.We have room for 2 more 3060 cards, the 3060 with 6Gb of ram & the 3060ti with 4 GB of ram.Both of which will be using the 2070s gpu's. Or have the 3060 gpu with about half the cores working... Nvidia will just box them like they did the 1060 6GB & the 1060 3GB cards,after all,they were Soooo straight forward to the common person buying off the shelf.

Edited February 3, 2021 by schuck6566

[Sir Beregond]

10 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

 

I believe a lot of people are taking what they can get, especially if they can keep it to MSRP. So many people sick of waiting for what may be. The situation stinks and Nvidia's really off SKU fragmentation approach does not help either and further confuses they hell out of people. For me the Ampere series makes absolutely no sense. for any of the SKU's when it comes to the VRAM counts being used, they either gimp you (3060Ti/3080) or they go mental (3090).

 

Especially the 3060 series. The Ti variant has always been the unicorn of the bunch, however for some reason Nvidia chose to give the 3060Ti only 8GB VRAM, yet its smaller non Ti brother the 3060 gets 12 Gb VRAM ? What is that ? 

 

I miss the days when the Ti meant you go the best of both worlds with respect to CUDA cores and VRAM. This generation the Ti means nothing. 

 

 

Sadly I gotta actually watch what I get for it to fit in my case with a water block. Looks like XC3 and Tuf 3080's will fit, but Strix and FTW3 as well as the ridiculously oversized MSI and Gigabyte boards will not.

 

As for the 3060/3060 Ti VRAM thing, I think it's pretty clear that the 3060 was meant to be a 6GB card, but they chose to make it 12GB instead in the wake of RDNA2 and a theoretical 12GB 6700 XT in the future. It's all marketing. Obviously the faster card will be the 8GB 3060 Ti. 

[ENTERPRISE]

2 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

 

Sadly I gotta actually watch what I get for it to fit in my case with a water block. Looks like XC3 and Tuf 3080's will fit, but Strix and FTW3 as well as the ridiculously oversized MSI and Gigabyte boards will not.

 

As for the 3060/3060 Ti VRAM thing, I think it's pretty clear that the 3060 was meant to be a 6GB card, but they chose to make it 12GB instead in the wake of RDNA2 and a theoretical 12GB 6700 XT in the future. It's all marketing. Obviously the faster card will be the 8GB 3060 Ti. 

 

Yeah, I have had to watch out which GPU I go for based on its length as my radiator mounted Res does cutdown the space a little.

 

Yeah it's all marketing but it has been particularly lame this time round.

[UltraMega]

When the pandemic ends the price of bitcoin could fall. I think bitcoin is like gold in that it has more value in uncertain times. Bitcoin wasn't half of what it is now before the pandemic. 

[J7SC_Orion]

5 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

 

Yeah, I have had to watch out which GPU I go for based on its length as my radiator mounted Res does cutdown the space a little.

 

Yeah it's all marketing but it has been particularly lame this time round.

  

If you're NOT watercooling the GPU (you were talking about a 3090 afaik), you might want to think about an open case...no really. With a waterblock on the other hand, those cards are much shorter and 'thinner' and you shouldn't have a problem.

 

I'm thrilled with the 3090 Strix, but apart from being huuuge and heavy, it really pumps the watts...the backplate in particular (with those extra VRAM chips) heats up and that heat has to go somewhere. I will eventually watercool the Strix, but for now, it is in an open frame case. Temps are actually quite good for the GPU and even VRAM itself, but only because it can evacuate the hot air quickly...note this stock bios read-out with Win 10 in power-saving mode and NV Panel on 'normal' (instead of 'prefer maximum performance') under power setting  :  
 

Edited February 4, 2021 by J7SC_Orion

[ENTERPRISE]

17 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

  

If you're NOT watercooling the GPU (you were talking about a 3090 afaik), you might want to think about an open case...no really. With a waterblock on the other hand, those cards are much shorter and 'thinner' and you shouldn't have a problem.

 

I'm thrilled with the 3090 Strix, but apart from being huuuge and heavy, it really pumps the watts...the backplate in particular (with those extra VRAM chips) heats up and that heat has to go somewhere. I will eventually watercool the Strix, but for now, it is in an open frame case. Temps are actually quite good for the GPU and even VRAM itself, but only because it can evacuate the hot air quickly...note this stock bios read-out with Win 10 in power-saving mode and NV Panel on 'normal' (instead of 'prefer maximum performance') under power setting  :  
 

 

Yeah it is only getting water cooled either way, the thickness of the card is not so much the issue, it would be the length. Some of the cards are much shorter and thinner with a WC block as you say, especially the founders edition. The GPU I purchased should fit in my card length ways, fortunately it was easier to tell as the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra cooler is as long as the PCB unlike some of the other variants. However fingers crossed I can still squeeze it in !

[Sir Beregond]

Problem is a lot of manufacturers seem to make their PCB's excessively long and/or tall. A Strix for instance will not fit and allow my side panel too close which would force a vertical mount.

 

Also not using a distribution block, the mounting location for the pump/reservoir might interfere with some of the super long looking cards. MSI for instance.

[J7SC_Orion]

1 hour ago, ENTERPRISE said:

 

Yeah it is only getting water cooled either way, the thickness of the card is not so much the issue, it would be the length. Some of the cards are much shorter and thinner with a WC block as you say, especially the founders edition. The GPU I purchased should fit in my card length ways, fortunately it was easier to tell as the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra cooler is as long as the PCB unlike some of the other variants. However fingers crossed I can still squeeze it in !

 

With the Strix 3090, there's extra space (may be 2 inches?) on the right beyond the PCB once the air cooler is off (please see TPU pic below). That said, I test-fitted the Strix in a CM Stryker case and it just (but just) fit length wise...and then decided to mount it in an 'open frame'. As mentioned, even with the GPU w-cooled, you need to pay attention to the backplate, fans, air-evac etc I am actually planning a w-cooled front and w-cooled back (back via older Swiftech universal GPU coolers I have) once I get around to it.

 

[Sir Beregond]

16 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

With the Strix 3090, there's extra space (may be 2 inches?) on the right beyond the PCB once the air cooler is off (please see TPU pic below). That said, I test-fitted the Strix in a CM Stryker case and it just (but just) fit length wise...and then decided to mount it in an 'open frame'. As mentioned, even with the GPU w-cooled, you need to pay attention to the backplate, fans, air-evac etc I am actually planning a w-cooled front and w-cooled back (back via older Swiftech universal GPU coolers I have) once I get around to it.

 

 

Sadly too tall with a  water block for the O11-Dynamic (why oh why did they make this thing so narrow?) But out of curiosity, what is the PCB length on that bad boy?

[ENTERPRISE]

17 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

With the Strix 3090, there's extra space (may be 2 inches?) on the right beyond the PCB once the air cooler is off (please see TPU pic below). That said, I test-fitted the Strix in a CM Stryker case and it just (but just) fit length wise...and then decided to mount it in an 'open frame'. As mentioned, even with the GPU w-cooled, you need to pay attention to the backplate, fans, air-evac etc I am actually planning a w-cooled front and w-cooled back (back via older Swiftech universal GPU coolers I have) once I get around to it.

 

Yeah that is exactly what I mean...once you remove the cooler and brace components you can save a chunk on the length for sure.

 

It is a fair point regarding the evacuation of heat from the backplate. Obviously you want backplates with thermal pads otherwise the backplate is useless. I will be interested to see how hot the backplate gets on the 3090 with the EK Block setup....though I have to wait till March/April before the block is available as I cannot find another company who makes a block specifically compatible with the EVGA FTW3 Ultra Hybrid variant of the 3090...such a drag.

[J7SC_Orion]

1 hour ago, Sir Beregond said:

 

Sadly too tall with a  water block for the O11-Dynamic (why oh why did they make this thing so narrow?) But out of curiosity, what is the PCB length on that bad boy?

 

Strix 3090 dimension (w/ stock air cooler):

 

31.85 x 14.01 x 5.78 Centimetre

12.53" x 5.51" x 2.27" Inch