Zen3, x570, and Samsung B-Die

[BWG]

Anyone pushing over 3800 yet? Also, what clock speed and timings are you at right now? I just got all of this stuff and was on a 1700x before. 5800x quite nice.

Edited February 4, 2021 by BWG

[ENTERPRISE]

I have not just yet with my 5950X setup on my Asrock Aqua. I am hoping the new AGESA update now being released will yield some fruits in the DRAM stability realm as well as being able to push the Infinity Fabric further.

 

At the moment I am at 3600Mhz on the RAM, though I'm on my phone and cannot recall my timings but will list them later.

[Sir Beregond]

What is this "B die" I keep hearing about.

 

Kind of been out of the game so been a bit confused on what RAM I should be looking at for the new rig.

[J7SC_Orion]

3 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

What is this "B die" I keep hearing about.

 

Kind of been out of the game so been a bit confused on what RAM I should be looking at for the new rig.

 

Samsung-B die is the cat's meow in the DDR4 RAM world, usually great overclockers while capable of tight timings. Officially, they stopped producing it but there are still some new kits around with it as vendors had stock-piled it. I have 4 kits of GSkill Samsung-B 3866 and LOVE it. Samsung-B can also take quite a lot of voltage (though I'm conservative with that).

 

Case in point: While not a Ryzen 5K series, I just picked up a 3950X which turned out to be both a great bin (CPU speed) and also is running InFin 1900 MHz/ 32 GB DDR4 Samsung-B at 3800 MHz right out of the box at stock voltages. Just got this X570 setup a few days ago to replace a X99 quad channel 5960X (that was running that very memory kit, at different speed). Now in the process of tightening all the timings...getting there, but perhaps a bit left on the table...meanwhile the 5960X mobo needs a bit of attention, but when that is done, it will get my last free Samsung-B kit...

 

 

  

[ENTERPRISE]

Ironically my TeamGroup Dark Pro RAM (B-die) on my X570 Asrock board struggles to go above 3600Mhz, however my TeamGroup Xtreem ARGB (High binned Micron) works at 4000Mhz XMP out of the box just fine.

[J7SC_Orion]

1 minute ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Ironically my TeamGroup Dark Pro RAM (B-die) on my X570 Asrock board struggles to go above 3600Mhz, however my TeamGroup Xtreem ARGB (High binned Micron) works at 4000Mhz XMP out of the box just fine.

 

...never had an ASRock mobo, but I had one of the Sammy-B kits up to 4133 MHz or so (on a binned 6700K ES, Gigabyte Z170 SOC Force). I like the fact this Sammy-B kit - nominal 3866 - gives you a big range of options re. timings and bandwidth. All that said, I hear very good things about the high binned Micron (ie TeamGroup Xtreem ARGB).

 

[Sir Beregond]

How do you know what kits are B die?

[J7SC_Orion]

8 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

How do you know what kits are B die?

 

...there are several look-up sites by RAM vendor, models...here's > one of them 

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2021 by J7SC_Orion