Sir Beregond

No, its ranked based on how many people per team actually contributed submissions. Higher ranked teams probably have more subs. I'm not sure if they then average out the times or what, but if you got one team with 2 subs and one team with 1 sub, the 2 sub team ranks better usually.

Oh does this mean I can now get other 3080 Ti BIOS on my FE card?

That's what mine is. All this time I thought the Xp was the Pascal X, not realizing they did actually have two different gens of Titans called the "Titan X". Way to go Nvidia

I got this one b-stock sale from EVGA for $199, but saw them on eBay for $150ish.

Titan X block and rest of the water cooling stuff should be here by Tuesday. Itching to join in.

They banned @ENTERPRISE ? That's rich

And look at that, a new video showing up on the banner, this is awesome @Mr. Fox!

I don't know. MX-5 was extremely thick and that was the worst paste I have used for pump out. I see why Arctic EOL'd it. I've been using MX-6 for a bit, and just ordered some KPx to try it. As for the bolded, I think you are correct, hence the "kryo".

Thanks for that. Given the "hydro" in the name, was wondering if it was supposed to be better for watercooling or something. I tried the old Kryonaut a few times and while I was impressed with the performance, I was less than impressed with the longevity of the paste. Usually needed to be redone annually. Anyway, sorry for my digression of the topic. The included accessories (the TIM) got me wondering.

Bad nickel plating huh? No shockers there. Good read though, solid review. Looks like a good block. I always forget that Thermal Grizzly has other pastes. Feels like you only hear about the liquid metal or the Kryonaut. What's supposed to be the main difference between Hydronaut and Kryonaut Extreme?

Did someone say 939? @pioneerisloud - your time to shine! In other news, I finished building the test bench last night and put in my PPCs order today. Titan X and waterblock should get here by Friday. Really close to being able to start. Taken me much longer to get this going than I anticipated, but want to do it right.

Well if mid-range is where it's at, I guess they suck at capturing that market too lingering at 15%ish market share.

Interesting, I'll have to keep a closer eye on 4070 Ti and below cards. I saw a big uptick in RDNA2 movement here in Denver, but it is because like you say, they are massively discounted. 30-series hasn't seen a huge discount from 2020-2021 MSRPs as far as I can see. I also noticed that the only 30-series cards that see any volume still at my store are 3050's, 3060's, 3060 Ti's. 3070 and 3070 Ti are more onesie twosie. 3080 and above have just been gone for months. I don't really see RDNA3 cards moving either. Maybe once the 7800 series starts releasing, but the 7900 series has been priced completely wrong. AMD had an opportunity to sock it to Nvidia this gen, absolutely, but they chose not to. I don't know why people keep thinking AMD only doing mid-range cards is a winning formula for them. This is exactly why their market share shrunk and general consumer perception of Radeon as a brand is that it's second rate. The only reason I see AMD pulling out of the enthusiast market is because they stopped giving a crap about trying to do anything revolutionary with Radeon and are content to service 10-15% of the market. Sad really considering the turnaround they pulled on Intel with Ryzen and Epyc.

I mean I suspect many like you had the same feeling, but others also saw it as the first 4k120 card and jumped on it, because the 3090 is not that and let's be real a lot of enthusiasts don't seem to have problems dropping that kinda dough every gen. I'm not one of them, but I do see that. Also, I haven't seen any new 3090's, 3090 Ti's, 3080 Ti's, or 3080's in stock for months, so I am pretty sure Nvidia has mostly sold through their inventory of top end GA102 based Ampere cards. Below that though, if there are good prices, 30-series might still be selling well. Personally I saw an uptick in RDNA2 sales more than anything at my local Micro Center.

No heat here. It is hard to get numbers, I don't feel it's hard to judge when you look at multiple forums, Reddit, locally, etc and can see the trending is really all I am saying. Is it fur whole picture, no. Yes I agree that 40-series in general overall numbers is probably losing to last gen RX 6000, and any remaining 30-series stock. Where that is not true is at the top end and the 4090 which seems to sale just fine. I guess my point being top end market still means something and can be a driving force in public perception of your product lineup as a whole whether you are buying top end or not. My overall point being that just trying to play the sweet spot value market hasn't really been a winning formula to drive any real market gain for AMD. It's been great for value gamers, but as AMD is even abandoning trying to be the value player by slotting into Nvidia's pricing, that prospect goes away until their own cards course correct in pricing (see 7900XT).

Just watch reddit and other places too. People are building stuff with 4090s. Like I said believe whatever you want. This is what I am observing in the real world. Because I can't provide you sales numbers you don't want to believe it, that's fine, but naive of what's going on even if you can't put a number to it. You know what we do have number on? Market share. AMD has done nothing but be completely uncompetitive in the flagship/top end space for a decade, basically everything between the last card that was (the 290X) and the recent card that was (6900XT/6950XT). What has that really done to their market share but shrink it over the past decade? AMD might get taken seriously again if they actually push to 1up Nvidia in features and performance, but either they can't or they won't. They seem perfectly content to just slot into Nvidia pricing stack, but still be overpriced at launch considering the deficiencies, and they don't seem to care. Gaming may be a big deal for AMD's business, but I suspect that's primarily console and dedicated GPU is probably near the bottom of what they give a crap about. It shows.

Believe whatever you want. You have no data and we provided you two observations. I'm not claiming we are providing data as I haven't given you any numbers, but I can say the following: My Micro center keeps accurate stock numbers on their website I watch stocks multiple times a week 4090s move 4080s sit lower stack moves slowly 4090s are the fastest moving 40-series cards RDNA2 cards are moving too Flux lives on the opposite side of the country from me, and sounds like he is seeing the same thing. Yeah its just two stores, but I think one can get an idea of what may be going on. As for Nvidia doing stock control, absolutely they are doing that. AI is their new cash cow. If consumer gaming cards aren't selling at the new prices asked and Nvidia is unwilling to lower their margins to price correct, then they are just going to move more silicon back to AI products and control stock of their only popular card (the 4090) so it doesn't drop in price.

I don't know man. They keep selling at my local Micro Center. I think in general the 40-series is a poor seller, but the 4090 while being the most expensive model, is also the only real gen on gen gain for minimal increase in MSRP. So the money/performance generational increase actually was decent on it. 4080 on the other hand had none of that. To your last point, I do agree here. AMD tends to do well if they can put a compelling offering with better value in the mid-range. If they don't skimp on VRAM and also provide a bit of a discount for the lack of better RT and DLSS, its a winner. Even last gen, the 6600XT and 6700XT were easy wins vs the Nvidia offerings at similar pricing.

Yeah well said. It's really been since joining this site and connecting with you all here that I've really gotten interested in overclocking, benching, etc. At some point I'll get brave and try volt modding and shunt modding. I mean I've never even delidded anything before but with the video @Bastiaan_NL put up of his 260, I will be trying it on the 275 I picked up for HWBot.

On mobile there are occasional pop down ads that block you from accessing the bell notifications because it covers it. Not immediately noticeable is the arrow to pop the ad back up. Will try to get a pic next time I see it.

For the team comp:

Yes this is called the reticle limit. For 4nm (which is a refined 5nm node to be clear, not real 4nm) are still a ways off from hitting that limit. I forget where I heard or saw this, but it sounds like when they presumably go to TSMC 3N next gen, that reticle limit massively goes down. Theoretically they can take advantage of advanced packaging technology to push the limit up but that will just add cost. EDIT: Sorry, on mobile, was not trying to double post.

Hope to have the bench up sometime this weekend. Will need a couple more parts for water cooling, but very close.

I think your mistake is limiting it to "gamers" as your demographic. Enthusiasts and gamers who will want the best every gen is a thing. Yes it's one data point but it makes sense. 4090 only got $100 increase over the 3090 MSRP, but a massive uploft in performance. On the other hand the 4080 got a $500 increase in MSRP, and everything else down the stack got gimped + price hike. Nobody is interested in those cards unless they have a budget (in which case I suspect many are considering cheap 6950XTs), or are looking for small/efficient like a 4070 for an SFF build or something.