Sir Beregond

I think the consensus is that sooner or later EVGA is on the way out entirely given GPUs were basically the bulk of their business. I've also been watching the forums for the Z790 boards and people are loudly complaining about lack of new BIOS for 14th gen. So for now will probably get a 13900ks for the Z790 Dark board I got.

Given what you tried, I'm inclined to think dead motherboard too.

Forgot to turn the heat on last night. Was a bit cold this morning so had some tea. I don't drink coffee so I am not often drinking hot beverages.

I think the white one is definitely the winner here. Maybe it's the lighting, the red on the black one looks more orange.

Thank you so much. I 100% agree...one of the better brands out there these days

New snow tires today.

Yep...CEL came back. Guess will see if sensor issue next.

That's good to know. Will keep an eye out. Drove another 20 miles today.

Oh I cleared it with the reader and I checked it again today and no code is registering.

I think you'd almost have to do both. If the 70 or 70 Ti Super gets put on AD103, then that should be a 256-bit card. And I think you almost have to drop prices as the 7800 XT sells like hot cakes at $499 and the 4080 at $1200 doesn't sell much at all.

Well the good news is I switched out the engine air filter, cleared the code, and so far the check engine light hasn't kicked again and things seem to be running fine as far as I can hear/feel. No idea what was wrong with the old filter, I changed it earlier this year and it didn't seem clogged or anything. I guess if the CEL kicks again will move onto checking the sensors.

I don't know a thing about audio. One of these days I'll hit you up when I want to up my audio game and learn some stuff. Thanks for steering us away from junk!

I have not. Sounds like my old car. So I hooked it up and got P0172 System Too Rich Picked up another engine air filter in case the old one had an issue or something and cleared the code. Will go from there.

My car threw a check engine light for the first time, so picked up an OBDII scanner. Just passed 130k miles so not sure what's going on. Car still feels, sounds, smells fine.

I don't agree. The 4070 and 4070 Ti are both cards that are mis-priced and mis-branded, so Super refreshes can fix that.

I think whatever refreshes the 12GB 4070 Ti will probably be 16GB on AD103. I 100% agree with you on the 80-class card, seems kinda dumb. But...if they did drop the price of the 4080's refresh card considerably, I wouldn't call it entirely pointless. Anyway I am predicting: 4080 Super -> full AD103 with faster G6X?, still 16GB, price drop, 4080 discontinued 4070 Ti Super -> AD103 instead of AD104 so core count cut down from current 4080, 16GB instead of 12GB, no idea pricing - depends on what they do with 4080 Super I'd guess, 4070 Ti discontinued 4070 Super -> AD104, 12GB still, core count slightly cut down from current 4070 Ti, again not sure pricing, maybe replaces 4070 price point, not sure if they discontinue 4070 or just drop price That's what I am going with. The only reason to do a Super refresh is to price correct without officially actually dropping prices of current models as far as I can tell.

Thank you, I'm glad of that!

I don't think that will happen. For one, they keep selling 4090's. Secondly cutdown AD102 dies are being used for much higher priced RTX 5000 Ada. They literally have no incentive to release any AD102 based product cheaper than the 4090 when they already have a product for cut down AD102 which sells for $7k. An AD103 based refresh can't be 20gb as the memory controller of that silicon is maxed at 256-bit. The price correction here would be in what you are getting. If a 4070 refresh is at the same price but functionally almost a 4070 Ti in performance, that's a big price correction on performance per dollar. Also I believe they'd discontinue the $1200 4080 with whatever they refresh it with as it simply doesn't sell in any volume...which is why I don't think it's an AD102 20GB 4080 Ti refresh. That said, I don't think whatever refresh for it would sell well either unless they dropped it to like $700-$800 personally. Not sure they'd do that. Again all speculation on my part, but I am seeing this as similar to 20-series which like the 40-series, on launch had terrible price/chip tiering especially for the 2070 (on TU106 lol). 2080 and 2070 got replaced by their Super counterparts and the 2070 Super corrected to TU104 silicon and almost as good as a 2080, with the 2060 Super being almost as good as the 2070. So you functionally got the original launch card performance for a tier down in price.

I mean, let's think about at least 2 of these SKUs. I don't think the 4080 has any hope here. Even if they do a Super and drop it to $1k I'd still call it too much unless it was AD102 based at 20GB. If it still stays on AD103, 16GB, then yeah, still a bad buy in my opinion. But let's say they discontinue the 4070 and 4070 Ti. If they do a 4070 Super (replacing the 4070) at same or lower price that is basically a slightly worse 4070 Ti, that could be good for the $550ish market. If they want to compete with the 7800 XT, they could also drop it at $500, which again, is a win as well. Basically almost a 4070 Ti for $500 instead of $800. But I think the winner here would be if they replace the 4070 Ti with a Super variant (not sure what you call it, 4070 Ti Super LOL?). The kicker would be if they use AD103 with 16GB, that could essentially be a slightly worse 4080 at a substantially lower price to the $1200 4080. Plus its 16GB vs 12GB. I don't know. Just speculating here. I have no idea what they are going to do.

Hahaha. Just $$$

AD103 is disappointing. Just continues my theory that there won't be a 4080 Ti based on AD102. Still not sure what's to be gained in AD103. If I recall, the 4080 was maybe only 5% cut down from full chip. I suppose they could also use faster GDDR6X too, maybe 24Gbps? But maybe the bigger news here is they'll price correct?

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I may get one of each. Would make for good backgrounds for review pics.

Similar to the mugs having two versions, would you consider desk pads with just the EHW branding and tagline sans the icons below them?