Sir Beregond

I think whatever refreshes the 12GB 4070 Ti will probably be 16GB on AD103. I 100% agree with you on the 80-class card, seems kinda dumb. But...if they did drop the price of the 4080's refresh card considerably, I wouldn't call it entirely pointless. Anyway I am predicting: 4080 Super -> full AD103 with faster G6X?, still 16GB, price drop, 4080 discontinued 4070 Ti Super -> AD103 instead of AD104 so core count cut down from current 4080, 16GB instead of 12GB, no idea pricing - depends on what they do with 4080 Super I'd guess, 4070 Ti discontinued 4070 Super -> AD104, 12GB still, core count slightly cut down from current 4070 Ti, again not sure pricing, maybe replaces 4070 price point, not sure if they discontinue 4070 or just drop price That's what I am going with. The only reason to do a Super refresh is to price correct without officially actually dropping prices of current models as far as I can tell.

Thank you, I'm glad of that!

I don't think that will happen. For one, they keep selling 4090's. Secondly cutdown AD102 dies are being used for much higher priced RTX 5000 Ada. They literally have no incentive to release any AD102 based product cheaper than the 4090 when they already have a product for cut down AD102 which sells for $7k. An AD103 based refresh can't be 20gb as the memory controller of that silicon is maxed at 256-bit. The price correction here would be in what you are getting. If a 4070 refresh is at the same price but functionally almost a 4070 Ti in performance, that's a big price correction on performance per dollar. Also I believe they'd discontinue the $1200 4080 with whatever they refresh it with as it simply doesn't sell in any volume...which is why I don't think it's an AD102 20GB 4080 Ti refresh. That said, I don't think whatever refresh for it would sell well either unless they dropped it to like $700-$800 personally. Not sure they'd do that. Again all speculation on my part, but I am seeing this as similar to 20-series which like the 40-series, on launch had terrible price/chip tiering especially for the 2070 (on TU106 lol). 2080 and 2070 got replaced by their Super counterparts and the 2070 Super corrected to TU104 silicon and almost as good as a 2080, with the 2060 Super being almost as good as the 2070. So you functionally got the original launch card performance for a tier down in price.

I mean, let's think about at least 2 of these SKUs. I don't think the 4080 has any hope here. Even if they do a Super and drop it to $1k I'd still call it too much unless it was AD102 based at 20GB. If it still stays on AD103, 16GB, then yeah, still a bad buy in my opinion. But let's say they discontinue the 4070 and 4070 Ti. If they do a 4070 Super (replacing the 4070) at same or lower price that is basically a slightly worse 4070 Ti, that could be good for the $550ish market. If they want to compete with the 7800 XT, they could also drop it at $500, which again, is a win as well. Basically almost a 4070 Ti for $500 instead of $800. But I think the winner here would be if they replace the 4070 Ti with a Super variant (not sure what you call it, 4070 Ti Super LOL?). The kicker would be if they use AD103 with 16GB, that could essentially be a slightly worse 4080 at a substantially lower price to the $1200 4080. Plus its 16GB vs 12GB. I don't know. Just speculating here. I have no idea what they are going to do.

Hahaha. Just $$$

AD103 is disappointing. Just continues my theory that there won't be a 4080 Ti based on AD102. Still not sure what's to be gained in AD103. If I recall, the 4080 was maybe only 5% cut down from full chip. I suppose they could also use faster GDDR6X too, maybe 24Gbps? But maybe the bigger news here is they'll price correct?

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I may get one of each. Would make for good backgrounds for review pics.

Similar to the mugs having two versions, would you consider desk pads with just the EHW branding and tagline sans the icons below them?

If I am reading this right, are you saying it started after enabling AMP following an AGESA update?

Gotta make "14th gen" look good somehow I guess. As much fun as I am going to have with the Z790 test bench, gotta say I hope Intel gets their insane power/thermal limits figured out for 15th gen, otherwise I think the daily rig will upgrade to another AMD come 2025ish. Performance per watt, I'm not exactly being impressed much by Intel right now.

First one it ever prompted me for. C1 in use since August 2022. I don't hide my taskbar and have tons of desktop icons, so I'm not exactly doing what you're supposed to do with OLEDs, but I haven't observed any potential burn in. Edit: To be clear, I can absolutely adapt to fewer desktop icons, and probably will. But I absolutely hated the hidden taskbar and waiting half a second for it to pop up for me to click on something, so I will never do that.

Fantastic first review!

A bit over 2000 hours screen time now and it prompted me to do a 10 minute pixel clean over the weekend.

Nice Monsoon fittings! I actually really like that industrial look of the Aquacomputer block.

Wow. Pretty soon my 3080 Ti is going to feel inadequate at 4k RT

Lol, well pointless gen then.

From what I've heard (rumor wise), Zen 5 in Q2 of 2024. Going back to the 14th gen releases though, honestly, if 14900k is basically a 13900ks with potentially a better IMC, at $589, that's a pretty good price vs the $730 the 13900ks costs now. Its basically a better, but cheaper 13900ks. Clearly the star of the show here is going to be the 14700k though with both increased clocks, but an increase in cores too.

This is where my strategy of no lights whatsoever inside my builds helps my sanity a ton.

What's dumb is the fact that they'd even call that a 3050. Call it a 3040. Nvidia, no stranger to obfuscating the products to the customers. See DDR4 vs DDR5 GT 1030's, vastly different performance. The other one is the 12GB vs 8GB 3060.

Gimme that 32GB 5090 or whatever it ends up being, hopefully more than 24GB.

Oh I think the only one I ever beat was the original.

I think Black Flag was the last AC game I played.

Whoops, I forgot how his site had the multiple pages thing. Thanks. Very interesting results..