Alastair

I know its not CPU-z but pushing some scores in cinebench too. Trying to compete in the HWBOT Div2 challenge. I managed to get the fastest 3800x in 1T for R23 @ 1373 5th place 3800x R23 @ 14117 And 2386 R15. I was trying so hard to hit 2412 so that I could take 17th in stage 2

Yeah so maybe 100 bucks isn't all that bad for some more mhz. I'd have to pay alot more for a cpu upgrade anyway... Besides. If I can reuse an optimus block like I have been able to on my Raystorm (gosh this thing must 9 years old by now) it wouldn't be a bad investment.

I would love to get my hands on one of those Optimus blocks. They look great. They really do. But I won't. Firstly I don't think they would ship to the @ss end of Africa. Hardly anyone does these days. And secondly. I would be spending over 100USD for maybe 5c-10c and possibly 50mhz-100mhz more boost clocks. (although admittedly 100usd these days wont get you as much in the pc space as what 100 got you three years ago)

There is nothing wrong with my airflow. I've checked how air flow through the system with a smoke machine. Its been set up with this for gosh darn about 8 years now. The only thing that changed was the fans themselves over the years. It is as follows: 200mm CM Force 200 front intake 4x140mm Intake Push/pull on rad Corsair ML140s bottom 280 radiator. 6x 120mm exhaust Push Pull Noiseblocker Eloop B12-4's on Top 360 radiator. 1x ML140 rear exhaust. with my smoke machine I am just on the bit on the positive pressure side of things. the 360 rad is fairly dense while the 280 isn't. So essentially: The bottom 280 rad is an intake. (plenty of space at the bottom of the case they aren't choked) 200mm is front intake. 360mm top rad is exhausting 140mm rear is exhausting. How much airflow do you want? Me: Yes To give you an idea, pulling full cpu load and GPU load. Im pulling around 750 out the wall. Probably 650 to the components that matter. Vega 64 with OC is doing about 450w total board power. GPU Temps 32c core (7c-8c over ambient) / 42C HBM/ 55-65C hotspot CPU temps 65C - 70C (40-45C over ambient)

I wonder what the B-die of the DDR5 generation will be.

How much of a difference would a better block make though? Are we talking 5c over my Mesozoic Era XSPC Raystorm original. Or are we just talking about a degree or two here? I can't even remember how much of a difference Der8aur's bracket made. Cause I am thinking about getting that too. Currently in a heavy all core workload. Like Cinebench or Blender or something like that. At my present OC settings (PBO, 10X, +200MHz, EDC=1, -0.05v) at 4.4GHz boost across 16Threads I see. 65-70C. Or more accurately around 40C-45C delta over ambient. I can't see it improving much.

Yeah that's the only kek thing about modern cpus. I yearn for the days of Sandy Bridge and Vishera overclockability again. But alas it doesn't matter in which platform you go with they are already run so hard fresh out the box. As far as I understand the numbers on the Intel side also aren't much better. A hundred mhz or two over the stock settings is the best anyone can expect from what I have heard. I'm also pretty irritated about the bclk limitations. Till a few weeks ago I was running a 101 bclk. Which gave me a LITTLE extra boost on the ryzen when the boost kicked in. But after I added another sata device I kept dropping drives. It just kinda irritated me. Like there is NO HEADROOM. Just nothing. I just let the PBO do its thing. Just unshackle it with the EDC1 bug and let it do its thing. My all core boost through PBO is only 25-50mhz (depending on which ccx you were looking at) lower than what I managed all core anyway. So blegh. I wasn't 25% PCs. Back in the day Ocing allowed your cheaper part to reach the level of a more expensive SKU. What does 5% on my 3800x get me? 3800xt territory? I wish I could at least get to 4.9 like some of the Zen3s.

Eh that's the sort of testimonial I was looking for. So it's a pointless exercise. I wonder why though. Because damn these chiplets get hot. I just dream of seeing high 40s low 50s again like I used to do with my 300watt Vishera. It makes me shake my head.... Like 120watts and I struggle to keep this chip below 70. I've seen those offset mounting kits by der8uer for water blocks and wondered if I should bother. I am also on quite an old CPU block and wondered if upgrading to a new block might be worth it.

I went bare die on my FX during its last few months of service and that really helped a bit. I am wondering if I should de-lid my Ryzen. I am running PBO oc and generally hit around 4.4GHz in all core workloads and 4650ish at single threaded. I settle around 65c - 70c with a full load and I have 640mm of radiator available. 120w load, 640mm radiator.... 70C..... Like heck, Chips these days are just so dense. We all know Ryzen scales its clocks on thermals, so I am wondering how much extra thermal headroom I can get out of this thing. But what is stopping me is if the IO and core dies are different heights, that would present a challenge.

He still has a lot of results to add on including my own. My guess is he still has to get them all. He is only one man afterall

what are you doing clocks wise to get 582.5 on single core on ZEN2? Im pushing 4.65GHz max boost (cpu-z 1T fluctuates between 4.5-4.6) getting 562-564

Whelp I wanted to add my CPU into the mix. Nothing too fancy. A 3800X. However I am not manually OCíng. I am running PBO with a 10x scaler and 200MHz offset. And undervolting with -0.05v. My ram is at xmp settings of 3600 18-20-20-44 2T. Which is basically already full afterburner for Sammy Cr@p-dies I mean C-dies. I broke 6000. Really proud! 4650Mhz max boost. 4.4-4.55GHz all core depending on the stress. (13754CB R23 for reference.)

I'm busy ocing my 3800x. So I will post some results of that soon. Over 6000/570ish cpuz seems pretty good for PBO Oc and that looks within reach. Ill bust out the e2200 once I am done with my main rig. I need to sit down and take the time to OC my ram to try eek whatever is left out of my system. But I will make a, seperate thread for that when the time comes because I think I will need help getting these c-dies to their best. I see the cpuz bench off thread. I feel we should have bench off threads for everything. Cinebench, 3d Mark, heaven etc.

I would love some dinosaur hardware to mess around with. But all I have is my e2200 kicking around on some kek G31 motherboard kicking around in the garage somewhere.

Glad to be back I think i remember. Hopefully you won't be too scarce. I know forums are going the way of the dinosaur what with you tube and stuff. But dammit I don't want us to go gently into that dark night.

What about those of us with still fairly new high end units that still have 6,7 or 8 years of warranty left? Think we will will be able to get "dumb" 12pin 12vhpwr adaptor cables? By dumb I mean adapters without the 4 sense cables. Surely dumb adapter cables will just deliver as much power as the gpu needs like our psus currently do? My psu is only a year and a bit old. I hope that I can keep using it for some time yet especially since it still has like 8 years of warranty left.

I had a problem a little while ago. My Vega 64 kept black screen crashing to a hard reset. I couldn't figure out what the banana Republic was going on. I went down to default clocks. Nope. Dropped power limits down all the way to 200watts. Still kept crashing. Eventually dropping all the way to about 1500mhz on the Vega. All fingers pointed towards a power issue. Apon closer investigation I pulled out my pcie 8pins. I'm not sure if I cooked them during an OC session and pulled to much current or what. But underneath my cable sleeving was nothing but naked copper. And even that was corroded and green. Probably didn't dry it out properly after a wash. So I thought I had figured out my troubles. But NO. I was still crashing. Not to black screen anymore but I was still getting driver timeouts. So out of desperation I did a DDU. And voila! No more issues. DDU and fresh drivers are so simple and often times all we need.

As you say. BCLK is a pain in the @ss. However. I'm on the journey for any and every mhz I can. The x570s are being a pain with regards to sata etc. I may not get 101 as I expand my storage. So I may have to live with it. I am using PBO to OC. I am using the edc bug and a 200mhz offset as well. Along with my scaler and voltage adjustments that means with a boost multi of 46.75 means I am seeing clocks as high as 4722mhz. Of course I won't notice ~50mhz loss. The only thing bruised would be my ego. Thankfully pcie 4 isn't a concern to me. Both my GPU and m.2 are 3.0 units. But as for ram. Welk Budget dictated what I could get at the time. So I bought the cheapest 3600mhz kit I could find. But alas the cheapest kit of 3600s ended up being Samsung cdies. Which are a bit iffy to work with and iffier to tighten up still. Overkill cooling. I got that covered. A loop a built up to keep a pair of Fiji's and a Vishera pushing 5GHz cool. Now days a Ryzen and an overclocked Vega are old hat to this loop.

Good thing I am reading this comment while the wife is busy. Otherwise she may just agree with you.

Well since the drive in question doesn't show up in bios when at 101. I just wanted to see if I boot everything at stock and then increase base clock in software if that does anything at all. It my not work at all but what the heck The things we do for those mhz.

BEFORE I give up entirely and turn in for the night. Is there no external software for base clock adjustment?

Sigh. I fear you may be right. Oh well. Tha ms for the help anyways.

Nope I just checked. X570 chipset can run 12 6Gb SATA devices. So I don't think it's that.

I had the same line of thought you did. I think 4 of the drives run on the chipset. If I remember CORRECTLY.

even if it just makes me feel better.