tictoc

I was out hiking in the desert for the last week, but I am still interested in helming the ship of what is sure to be the dominant TC team. ? I see that the ninja bunnies already have a thread. Should I start recruiting my powerhouse team, or are we still in the planning stages??

I'll shoot you some pics when I get home later today.

Let me know if you want me to throw a CPU or two at the TC, to get some sort of baseline points. I have some cores free for the next couple of weeks while I continue to migrate hardware around. Anything and everything that I'm folding on will always be in Linux. Not sure how I feel about handicapping based on the OS, but I could probably put together some comparative numbers, if we are going to go that route. For GPU categories, I'm not sure what the performance looks like between Windows and Linux now that the majority of WUs are using CUDA, rather than OpenCl, on NVIDIA cards. Right now I have a Ryzen 7 1700 pushing an RTX 2080S and a 5700XT, that could serve as a bit of a test bed for performance. It is the machine that is currently folding in two TC categories, and I could add some CPU tasks into the mix. The machine is running headless, so I am probably getting about the absolute maximum performance on the GPUs, with the least amount of OS/driver overhead, that is possible.

I've been the office print server for the last week, so that's been interesting. I'm about 50/50 in the office or WFH, so it's been amusing getting emails to remote print through the VPN when I'm not around.

Res is mounted with a fitting to the EK Dual-D5 top.

Good to see some additional consumer focused options in the 10G space. While the fanless design is nice on the 5-port switch, it will be interesting to see what the actual hardware inside it is. Most 10G-baseT (RJ45) runs pretty hot, and without a fan it seems to me that there will be throttling if your hitting more than one of the ports at anything approaching full speed. I swapped out the fan in my Netgear 8-port 10G switch for a Noctua 40mm fan, and for all intents and purposes it is silent now. Even when I am hammering on 2+ 10G connections simultaneously I don't see any throttling. For a bit of reference, the hottest thing in my workstation is the 10G nic, and that is with an additional 120mm fan blowing directly on the nic.

Here's my workstation. Looks a bit dusty.

I would be willing to part with the Taichi. Here's a pic of it with a Heatkiller universal block on the VRMs.

Power and internet have been out for the last few days, so I am just catching up. Did you already grab this board? I like the board and haven't had any issues with it. You might have to disable some onboard peripherals to get the board to recognize GPUs in all the slots. I have an X399 Taichi, but it is missing the VRM heatsink. I pulled the VRM heatsink to run a waterblock on it, and somehow managed to knock it off my workbench, and then step on it, which pinched the heatpipe. I tried to get a replacement from ASRock, but no luck with that.

Folding on the CPU, even with a slight overclock, on air, is going to be a tall order unless you have a pretty good cooler. Pretty much all of the new CPU tasks are primarily using AVX instructions, and you are likely to see temps and wattage roughly in the neighborhood of Prime95 "blend" or even a bit higher.

The limit on PMs is a real joy. It's been a bit since I sent out a bunch of PMs on OCN, but I I think I can PM 25 users at once. What I did was split up my list into chunks in a text file, and then just copy/paste the broken up list into however many PMs I need to send. I don't remember hitting a hard limit, but it has been 8 months since I did that so not sure on any changes that might have happened since then.

New UPS for the new home server.

Nice. I have a few of those and a passive x8x8, and they work great. For Threadripper on X399, I can say that 6 GPUs definitely work. The max at 7 I think would only apply for x8 slots, but I can't say for sure since I've never exceeded that number of devices. As long as you can bifurcate a x16 slot to x4x4x4x4 I don't see any reason why you couldn't add more GPUs. You may have to disable some USB and/or sound devices, depending on how your board handles addressing devices, but other than that, there is no maximum device limit on X399 and Threadripper.

Thanks for sending it up the chain E. ? I just set custom rules for my inbox, and then clean them out periodically. I will say that the "security" concern is an interesting take on user security. I guess it's nice to know when you've been pwned, but by the time you see the alert, the damage has likely been done. 2FA and/or hardware tokens are really the best, easy to implement solution. In my experience, most user facing security items that are likely to cause user fatigue, are not worth the time to implement. If something hits a user's inbox multiple times per day, then the natural thing to do is to ignore the alerts, rendering them useless. This is similar to password fatigue, where you require the user to change their passwords frequently, which annoys the users, and then you start to see things like oldpassword1, oldpassword2, etc, or just shorter and easier to remember (i.e. insecure) passwords. FWIW Google, Microsoft, and a bunch of other large corps do the same thing with logins.

The Splitty 9 Active is a nice little powered splitter if you are just looking to power some fans, and control them via the PWM header on the motherboard. https://modmymods.com/aquacomputer-splitty9-active-splitter-53231.html

I like it. I have a few very similar benches w/o the acrylic. I just spaced the crossbars to match the standard ATX dimensions. The "i need to be able to stuff more GPUs in this rig extended height edition"

I'm all about competition. Once upon a time I had a TC 290 OC'd to the moon, and it was beating 290X's, 390X's, and maybe even a Fury or two. I'll be around to lend a hand with anything you guys need, and I'll start brainstorming on some ideas for the reincarnation of the TC.

Someone had floated the idea (over on OCN, was that you @BWG) of pooling all the interested folders, and then doing a draft to fill out the teams. I think that is a decent idea, because it might even things out a bit. I know that I was generally able to recruit people for my team, but that wasn't always the case with other teams, and I had an advantage since I was the Editor of the BOINC section. Outside of having enough folders interested in joining, the most important thing will be to have a reliable stats site. Not sure how specifically you want to structure the teams, but we could look at CPU, GPU-O (open), NVIDIA, and AMD. Balance is always tough unless there is a full roster for every team.

I'll be leaving a 2080S and a 5700XT up and folding for a bit. ?

It's not terrible, and I can actually power limit the cards to about 225W without much of a loss in production. Most WUs are right around 1.6M ppd.

I tested 1x on a 1070 about a year ago, and the average was about -25-30%. With QRB it scales a little funny. The higher ppd WUs actually take a bigger hit because of how QRB works with more bonus points the faster the work is completed.

They are not great for folding, but I am currently folding on 4 Radeon VIIs. Currently the best WUs are only about 2 million ppd. There has been a steady decline in AMD folding ppd for the last year across all AMD GPUs. There was a time when AMD GPUs were starting to catch up to their NVIDIA counterparts, but that shipped has sailed with the CUDA WUs. I haven't specifically look at the latest cores, but I am somewhat sure that the hot-paths are seeing mostly CUDA optimizations. Once upon a time there were WUs that were 4M+ ppd, but that hasn't been the case for at least the last year.

Pretty close to listing a handful of Radeon VIIs on Ebay. I bought all of them brand new for $550, except for 1 that I bought at launch for $700. Currently they are selling for $1500-$2100. Selling them now would allow to grab a pair of Radeon Pro VIIs that are actually more useful for me with the Infinty Fabric link and full fp64. ? *Edit* On top of the low price that I paid for the cards, I am basically even on the purchase already, since I have mined eth with the cards from time to time when they were idle.

Didn't notice that you were on Windows, so not sure how that all works. I know that CUDA is bundled with the GeForce/RTX drivers, but I'm not positive if that's the case with the Tesla drivers. Are these the drivers you installed? https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/170719/en-us