TC Rules Discussion - The Reshaping of The Team Competition

[Avacado]

Yea, sounds good. I never was in the TC's before. I didn't know I was nominated for Captain

[BWG]

1 hour ago, damric said:

Hi. What do I need to do?

 

We were just discussing the event details here, and trying to setup the teams. I see you might not have participated in TC on OCN either, so take a look at how it used to run to get a feel for what it's like.

 

49 minutes ago, Avacado said:

Yea, sounds good. I never was in the TC's before. I didn't know I was nominated for Captain

 

I mean, you did select you were interested in being a captain on the sign up, but that's ok. I guess we will concentrate on establishing the Team Captains and Team Names first.

[Bastiaan_NL]

2 hours ago, BWG said:

I may run FPN for Bastiaan and use the hertz 960

Good idea, I would love to have "him" at my side 

[BWG]

1 hour ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Good idea, I would love to have "him" at my side 

 

I think he would say...

 

[tenchimuyo93]

delete this one, double post.

Edited March 31, 2021 by tenchimuyo93
Double post.

[tenchimuyo93]

10 hours ago, BWG said:

I can put hertz on fpn if you want.

 

So, little update for all those that are wondering. @zodac is building tables, @axipher is building php, @1337lutz is imagining the new graphics and layout. We could be in demo stage by next week.

 

@ENTERPRISEis adding the sub-forum.

 

So, let's talk about the teams. Summoning all those who signed up for the event: @tenchimuyo93 @Supercrumpet @Avacado @Zonalo @tictoc @damric @Bastiaan_NL

 

ya bossman, just waiting on the word to swap over to team and let my rx580 fling food against the wall.... hehehe

[Zonalo]

i'm kind of here...

 

Still interested though. I will need to be on a team with a strong and patient captain, as i will be needing more than average amount of coaching

[axipher]

1 hour ago, tenchimuyo93 said:

delete this one, double post.

 

Hey everyone, look at this double post

[tictoc]

I was out hiking in the desert for the last week, but I am still interested in helming the ship of what is sure to be the dominant TC team. 

 

I see that the ninja bunnies already have a thread.  Should I start recruiting my powerhouse team, or are we still in the planning stages??

 

 

[BWG]

Pedal to the metal!!! 1050w is in! 1st and 2nd ti temps loaded with F@H look great! 

 

[BWG]

@axipherchomp your avatar at this double post.

 

@tictocwhat is your team name going to be? BOINC is off the table  

[tictoc]

New team or revive Infinity? 

 

Not sure yet, maybe I'll wait on a name until the roster is filled and then the team can come up with a name.

[BWG]

@tictoccan you see the sub-forum and manual ok in the folding section?

[tictoc]

Just now, BWG said:

@tictoccan you see the sub-forum and manual ok in the folding section?

Yes sir.  I was just reading the manual.

[BWG]

It's not 100% complete, but let me know how it flows to a non-folder in your opinion.

 

Edit: Also linked the sign-up sheet and changed it around.

 

Edited April 1, 2021 by BWG

[tictoc]

It reads pretty good. 

 

We should probably put something in there about dumping low ppd WUs.  Right now there are some nasty WUs (p177xx) for AMD gear that really tank ppd.  Radeon VII averages around 1.8M-2M ppd on most WUs, but the p177xx WUs drop that down to around 700k ppd. 

Edited April 1, 2021 by tictoc
typo

[BWG]

And mandatory HFM?

 

@axipher

[tictoc]

Mandatory HFM is nice, but I don't know if it's 100% necessary.  

[BWG]

22 minutes ago, tictoc said:

Mandatory HFM is nice, but I don't know if it's 100% necessary.  

 

So, you're one of those "old school" Team Captain's aye?

 

How else is @Bastiaan_NLsupposed to catch me folding my 1080ti's and 1070's under the same passkey to try and compensate for his powerful 3090 in testing? 

 

EDIT: Added more rules because of @tictoc

Edited April 1, 2021 by BWG

[axipher]

34 minutes ago, tictoc said:

It reads pretty good. 

 

We should probably put something in there about dumping low ppd WUs.  Right now there are some nasty WUs (p177xx) for AMD gear that really tank ppd.  Radeon VII averages around 1.8M-2M ppd on most WUs, but the p177xx WUs drop that down to around 700k ppd. 

 

I just saw my new 6700 XT go from 2 mil PPD to 700k and thought something was wrong, turns out it got a P17729 WU like you mentioned.

 

 

32 minutes ago, BWG said:

And mandatory HFM?

 

@axipher

 

26 minutes ago, tictoc said:

Mandatory HFM is nice, but I don't know if it's 100% necessary.  

 

Well it would help with confirming hardware if we go the handicap multiplier route.

[tictoc]

3 hours ago, axipher said:

 

I just saw my new 6700 XT go from 2 mil PPD to 700k and thought something was wrong, turns out it got a P17729 WU like you mentioned.

 

 

 

 

Well it would help with confirming hardware if we go the handicap multiplier route.

 

Those WUs are brutal.  I had been fairly regularly reporting on beta tasks as a beta tester, but I didn't have any AMD gear folding when those were going through beta.  Hopefully it is a short-lived project.

 

HFM is great for confirming slots and hardware.  I'm cool with whatever is decided.

 

Handicapping hardware makes for some interesting possibilities.  I have an R9 290 that is definitely in the top 1% of cards for 24/7 stable GPU clocks.  When it last saw duty folding in the TC it was straight up beating higher end AMD GPUs like the 290X and 390.

[BWG]

38 minutes ago, tictoc said:

 

Those WUs are brutal.  I had been fairly regularly reporting on beta tasks as a beta tester, but I didn't have any AMD gear folding when those were going through beta.  Hopefully it is a short-lived project.

 

HFM is great for confirming slots and hardware.  I'm cool with whatever is decided.

 

Handicapping hardware makes for some interesting possibilities.  I have an R9 290 that is definitely in the top 1% of cards for 24/7 stable GPU clocks.  When it last saw duty folding in the TC it was straight up beating higher end AMD GPUs like the 290X and 390.

 

Oh so sorry...

 

Spoiler

 

[Bastiaan_NL]

On 3/31/2021 at 7:56 PM, BWG said:

 

I think he would say...

 

 

5 hours ago, BWG said:

How else is @Bastiaan_NLsupposed to catch me folding my 1080ti's and 1070's under the same passkey to try and compensate for his powerful 3090 in testing? 

So you think that was just one card?

 

How would you use HFM to see which passkey a card is folding on? Just by comparing the PPD reported on one piece of hardware vs the PPD on the TC passkey?

[BWG]

2 minutes ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

 

So you think that was just one card?

 

How would you use HFM to see which passkey a card is folding on? Just by comparing the PPD reported on one piece of hardware vs the PPD on the TC passkey?

http://bastiaannl.42web.io/Main 7XL-log.txt

[Bastiaan_NL]

If I search that log I only find this: "<passkey v='*****'/>"

 

And for the TC you'll need this one for the 5700xt system: http://bastiaannl.42web.io/The Office-log.txt