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AMD CPUs get performance uplift from Windows update


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I try to avoid posting videos as the only source for news, but I haven't seen this info anywhere else yet. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Slaughtahouse said:

Thanks for sharing. I'll watch later. Q: Does this only benefit Win 11 users (W11 24H2 update) or does it also impact Win10? 

 

I'm not sure. It affects more than just Ryzen 9000 though, so I'd assume the fix will make it's way to win10 as well eventually.

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1 hour ago, Slaughtahouse said:

Thanks for sharing. I'll watch later. Q: Does this only benefit Win 11 users (W11 24H2 update) or does it also impact Win10? 

 

Someone made a comment buried in the depths of the video comments that an AMD rep said on a podcast that these 24H2 kernel updates would be coming to Windows 10 as well. I didn't check the podcast to verify it myself.

 

However, Windows 10 is faster than Windows 11 for gaming right now. HUB tested this three weeks ago.

 

 

None of this does anything to help Zen 5 on its own though. Zen 4 gets a similarly significant boost. Their performance in Windows 11 24H2 might even finally catch up to 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 now. 🤣

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49 minutes ago, Snakecharmed said:

 

Someone made a comment buried in the depths of the video comments that an AMD rep said on a podcast that these 24H2 kernel updates would be coming to Windows 10 as well. I didn't check the podcast to verify it myself.

 

However, Windows 10 is faster than Windows 11 for gaming right now. HUB tested this three weeks ago.

 

 

None of this does anything to help Zen 5 on its own though. Zen 4 gets a similarly significant boost. Their performance in Windows 11 24H2 might even finally catch up to 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 now. 🤣

It will be interesting to see if this applies to other CPUs as well like Zen 3 or older.

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I guess I will have to locate so pre update benchmarks and see what the uplift is (if any) for the 7950X3D.

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1 hour ago, ENTERPRISE said:

I guess I will have to locate so pre update benchmarks and see what the uplift is (if any) for the 7950X3D.

The update is a preview update right now, so unless you do insider previews, you don't have the update yet.

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21 hours ago, Snakecharmed said:

 

Someone made a comment buried in the depths of the video comments that an AMD rep said on a podcast that these 24H2 kernel updates would be coming to Windows 10 as well. I didn't check the podcast to verify it myself.

 

However, Windows 10 is faster than Windows 11 for gaming right now. HUB tested this three weeks ago.

 

 

None of this does anything to help Zen 5 on its own though. Zen 4 gets a similarly significant boost. Their performance in Windows 11 24H2 might even finally catch up to 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 now. 🤣

 

Thinking about it a little more, seems like this could be a resolution for just Win 11. If Win 10 was already ~10% faster, seems unlikely, but still possible that Win 10 will see similar performance uplift from a 2H update.

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20 hours ago, UltraMega said:

The update is a preview update right now, so unless you do insider previews, you don't have the update yet.

 

Fair point, I did actually opt out of insider previews for stability reasons. Guess I will have to wait.

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My take on this AMD CPU generation is that when compared to the previous gen, it's a small uplift in performance and efficiency, but this gen is over priced. I don't see the X3D chips being any different. I will probably just keep my 5900X for a while.

 

I have been choosing AMD CPUs  personally since 91. I have chosen AMD CPUs for numerous reasons over the years. Sometimes just because I thought they were more consumer oriented than Intel. Ryzen has been great in a lot of ways but AMD as a company has reminded me more of the type of practices I associate with Intel over recent years.  

I never like to think of myself as a fan boy (who does?) but I do know what I like and I do know what I don't like. 

I am just as interested in the next Intel CPUs as I am the new X3D chips. And I am not particularly excited by either.

 

What you guys think?

 

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1 hour ago, waza said:

My take on this AMD CPU generation is that when compared to the previous gen, it's a small uplift in performance and efficiency, but this gen is over priced. I don't see the X3D chips being any different. I will probably just keep my 5900X for a while.

 

I have been choosing AMD CPUs  personally since 91. I have chosen AMD CPUs for numerous reasons over the years. Sometimes just because I thought they were more consumer oriented than Intel. Ryzen has been great in a lot of ways but AMD as a company has reminded me more of the type of practices I associate with Intel over recent years.  

I never like to think of myself as a fan boy (who does?) but I do know what I like and I do know what I don't like. 

I am just as interested in the next Intel CPUs as I am the new X3D chips. And I am not particularly excited by either.

 

What you guys think?

 

 

Welcome to EHW. 

 

Personally I have always chosen whichever CPU offers the best performance vs price. Whether Intel or AMD make little difference to me. I have however been a Ryzen fan for a while as they have been year on year excellent CPU's for the money over Intels offerings. That of course may change. The 9000 series I find hard to have a definitive decision on. It was such a rocky launch and poorly prepared for regarding software which really gimped the CPU's. 

 

My first thoughts were that the 9000 series were lackluster and offered little gain generationally but like many media outlets, I think our opinions may have to revised once the dust has settled so everyone can take a second look at the 9000 series. Jury is still out on this one. 

 

I think AMD should try and keep their pricing as competitive as possible and I'm hoping their lead over Intel does not make their heads too big whereby innovation stalls and prices continue to rise, as that is how Intel was caught with their pants down not all that long ago.

 

I am looking forward to the 9000 X3D variants to see how they compare to the 7000 X3D chips. I am not expecting anything that makes me want to upgrade, but hey I could be wrong.

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I've read rumors that the 9000 X3D chips may bring something different to the table this generation. I'm not sure what that would be, but the obvious candidates would be more, faster, or dual-CCD 3D cache. They're in a situation where they pretty much have to bring something different to the table or else this generation really is the AMD Raptor Lake refresh.

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3 minutes ago, Snakecharmed said:

I've read rumors that the 9000 X3D chips may bring something different to the table this generation. I'm not sure what that would be, but the obvious candidates would be more, faster, or dual-CCD 3D cache. They're in a situation where they pretty much have to bring something different to the table or else this generation really is the AMD Raptor Lake refresh.

 

I read somewhere (comments on VC. net?) that the placement of the cache may be relocated. Implemented in a way where it doesn’t increase thermal resistance and lower clocks or core speeds vs. non-3D parts.

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