Jump to content

Welcome to ExtremeHW

Welcome to ExtremeHW, register to take part in our community, don't worry this is a simple FREE process that requires minimal information for you to signup.

 

Registered users can: 

  • Start new topics and reply to others.
  • Show off your PC using our Rig Creator feature.
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get updates.
  • Get your own profile page to customize.
  • Send personal messages to other members.
  • Take advantage of site exclusive features.
  • Upgrade to Premium to unlock additional sites features.
IGNORED

AMD CPUs get performance uplift from Windows update


UltraMega

Recommended Posts

I try to avoid posting videos as the only source for news, but I haven't seen this info anywhere else yet. 

 

 

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: 5800x
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus
RAM: 32GB 3600mhz CL16
GPU: 7900XT
SOUNDCARD: Sound Blaster Z 5.1 home theater
MONITOR: 4K 65 inch TV
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, Slaughtahouse said:

Thanks for sharing. I'll watch later. Q: Does this only benefit Win 11 users (W11 24H2 update) or does it also impact Win10? 

 

I'm not sure. It affects more than just Ryzen 9000 though, so I'd assume the fix will make it's way to win10 as well eventually.

  • Thanks 1

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: 5800x
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus
RAM: 32GB 3600mhz CL16
GPU: 7900XT
SOUNDCARD: Sound Blaster Z 5.1 home theater
MONITOR: 4K 65 inch TV
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Slaughtahouse said:

Thanks for sharing. I'll watch later. Q: Does this only benefit Win 11 users (W11 24H2 update) or does it also impact Win10? 

 

Someone made a comment buried in the depths of the video comments that an AMD rep said on a podcast that these 24H2 kernel updates would be coming to Windows 10 as well. I didn't check the podcast to verify it myself.

 

However, Windows 10 is faster than Windows 11 for gaming right now. HUB tested this three weeks ago.

 

 

None of this does anything to help Zen 5 on its own though. Zen 4 gets a similarly significant boost. Their performance in Windows 11 24H2 might even finally catch up to 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 now. 🤣

Edited by Snakecharmed
  • Thanks 1

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
MOTHERBOARD: Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi
RAM: 64 GB (2x32 GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 CL30
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: 1 TB WD_BLACK SN850X PCIe 4.0 NVMe
SSD/NVME 2: 2 TB WD_BLACK SN770 PCIe 4.0 NVMe
MONITOR: 38" LG UltraGear 38GN950-B 3840x1600 144 Hz
MONITOR 2: 55" Samsung Neo QLED QN85A 4K 120 Hz 4:4:4
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
MOTHERBOARD: ASRock X300M-STM
RAM: 16 GB (2x8 GB) ADATA DDR4-3200 CL22
SSD/NVME: 500 GB Gigabyte Gen3 2500E PCIe 3.0 NVMe
SSD/NVME 2: 3.84 TB Samsung PM863a Enterprise SATA 6 Gbps
CASE: ASRock DeskMini X300W
CPU COOLER: Thermalright AXP90-X36
CPU COOLER 2: [Fan] Noctua NF-A9x14 92mm PWM 2.52 W
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, Snakecharmed said:

 

Someone made a comment buried in the depths of the video comments that an AMD rep said on a podcast that these 24H2 kernel updates would be coming to Windows 10 as well. I didn't check the podcast to verify it myself.

 

However, Windows 10 is faster than Windows 11 for gaming right now. HUB tested this three weeks ago.

 

 

None of this does anything to help Zen 5 on its own though. Zen 4 gets a similarly significant boost. Their performance in Windows 11 24H2 might even finally catch up to 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 now. 🤣

It will be interesting to see if this applies to other CPUs as well like Zen 3 or older.

Edited by UltraMega
  • Great Idea 1

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: 5800x
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus
RAM: 32GB 3600mhz CL16
GPU: 7900XT
SOUNDCARD: Sound Blaster Z 5.1 home theater
MONITOR: 4K 65 inch TV
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Administrators
6.1k 3,256

I guess I will have to locate so pre update benchmarks and see what the uplift is (if any) for the 7950X3D.

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Meg Ace X670E
RAM: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB (6000MT/s)
GPU: EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: Corsair MP700 Pro SE Gen 5 4TB
PSU: EVGA Supernova T2 1600Watt
CASE: be quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev 2
FANS: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC x 6
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: Intel Core i5 8500
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Kingston 2666Mhz
SSD/NVME: 256GB Samsung NVMe
NETWORK: HP 561T 10Gbe (Intel X540 T2)
MOTHERBOARD: Proprietry
GPU: Intel UHD Graphics 630
PSU: 90Watt
CASE: HP EliteDesk 800 G4 SFF
Full Rig Info

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: 2 x Xeon|E5-2696-V4 (44C/88T)
RAM: 128GB|16 x 8GB - DDR4 2400MHz (2Rx8)
MOTHERBOARD: HP Z840|Intel C612 Chipset
GPU: Nvidia Quadro P2200
HDD: 4x 16TB Toshiba MG08ACA16TE Enterprise
SSD/NVME: Intel 512GB 670p NVMe (Main OS)
SSD/NVME 2: 2x WD RED 1TB NVMe (VM's)
SSD/NVME 3: 2x Seagate FireCuda 1TB SSD's (Apps)
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, ENTERPRISE said:

I guess I will have to locate so pre update benchmarks and see what the uplift is (if any) for the 7950X3D.

The update is a preview update right now, so unless you do insider previews, you don't have the update yet.

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: 5800x
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus
RAM: 32GB 3600mhz CL16
GPU: 7900XT
SOUNDCARD: Sound Blaster Z 5.1 home theater
MONITOR: 4K 65 inch TV
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 hours ago, Snakecharmed said:

 

Someone made a comment buried in the depths of the video comments that an AMD rep said on a podcast that these 24H2 kernel updates would be coming to Windows 10 as well. I didn't check the podcast to verify it myself.

 

However, Windows 10 is faster than Windows 11 for gaming right now. HUB tested this three weeks ago.

 

 

None of this does anything to help Zen 5 on its own though. Zen 4 gets a similarly significant boost. Their performance in Windows 11 24H2 might even finally catch up to 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 now. 🤣

 

Thinking about it a little more, seems like this could be a resolution for just Win 11. If Win 10 was already ~10% faster, seems unlikely, but still possible that Win 10 will see similar performance uplift from a 2H update.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Administrators
6.1k 3,256
20 hours ago, UltraMega said:

The update is a preview update right now, so unless you do insider previews, you don't have the update yet.

 

Fair point, I did actually opt out of insider previews for stability reasons. Guess I will have to wait.

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Meg Ace X670E
RAM: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB (6000MT/s)
GPU: EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: Corsair MP700 Pro SE Gen 5 4TB
PSU: EVGA Supernova T2 1600Watt
CASE: be quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev 2
FANS: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC x 6
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: Intel Core i5 8500
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Kingston 2666Mhz
SSD/NVME: 256GB Samsung NVMe
NETWORK: HP 561T 10Gbe (Intel X540 T2)
MOTHERBOARD: Proprietry
GPU: Intel UHD Graphics 630
PSU: 90Watt
CASE: HP EliteDesk 800 G4 SFF
Full Rig Info

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: 2 x Xeon|E5-2696-V4 (44C/88T)
RAM: 128GB|16 x 8GB - DDR4 2400MHz (2Rx8)
MOTHERBOARD: HP Z840|Intel C612 Chipset
GPU: Nvidia Quadro P2200
HDD: 4x 16TB Toshiba MG08ACA16TE Enterprise
SSD/NVME: Intel 512GB 670p NVMe (Main OS)
SSD/NVME 2: 2x WD RED 1TB NVMe (VM's)
SSD/NVME 3: 2x Seagate FireCuda 1TB SSD's (Apps)
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

My take on this AMD CPU generation is that when compared to the previous gen, it's a small uplift in performance and efficiency, but this gen is over priced. I don't see the X3D chips being any different. I will probably just keep my 5900X for a while.

 

I have been choosing AMD CPUs  personally since 91. I have chosen AMD CPUs for numerous reasons over the years. Sometimes just because I thought they were more consumer oriented than Intel. Ryzen has been great in a lot of ways but AMD as a company has reminded me more of the type of practices I associate with Intel over recent years.  

I never like to think of myself as a fan boy (who does?) but I do know what I like and I do know what I don't like. 

I am just as interested in the next Intel CPUs as I am the new X3D chips. And I am not particularly excited by either.

 

What you guys think?

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Administrators
6.1k 3,256
1 hour ago, waza said:

My take on this AMD CPU generation is that when compared to the previous gen, it's a small uplift in performance and efficiency, but this gen is over priced. I don't see the X3D chips being any different. I will probably just keep my 5900X for a while.

 

I have been choosing AMD CPUs  personally since 91. I have chosen AMD CPUs for numerous reasons over the years. Sometimes just because I thought they were more consumer oriented than Intel. Ryzen has been great in a lot of ways but AMD as a company has reminded me more of the type of practices I associate with Intel over recent years.  

I never like to think of myself as a fan boy (who does?) but I do know what I like and I do know what I don't like. 

I am just as interested in the next Intel CPUs as I am the new X3D chips. And I am not particularly excited by either.

 

What you guys think?

 

 

Welcome to EHW. 

 

Personally I have always chosen whichever CPU offers the best performance vs price. Whether Intel or AMD make little difference to me. I have however been a Ryzen fan for a while as they have been year on year excellent CPU's for the money over Intels offerings. That of course may change. The 9000 series I find hard to have a definitive decision on. It was such a rocky launch and poorly prepared for regarding software which really gimped the CPU's. 

 

My first thoughts were that the 9000 series were lackluster and offered little gain generationally but like many media outlets, I think our opinions may have to revised once the dust has settled so everyone can take a second look at the 9000 series. Jury is still out on this one. 

 

I think AMD should try and keep their pricing as competitive as possible and I'm hoping their lead over Intel does not make their heads too big whereby innovation stalls and prices continue to rise, as that is how Intel was caught with their pants down not all that long ago.

 

I am looking forward to the 9000 X3D variants to see how they compare to the 7000 X3D chips. I am not expecting anything that makes me want to upgrade, but hey I could be wrong.

  • Thanks 1

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Meg Ace X670E
RAM: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB (6000MT/s)
GPU: EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: Corsair MP700 Pro SE Gen 5 4TB
PSU: EVGA Supernova T2 1600Watt
CASE: be quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev 2
FANS: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC x 6
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: Intel Core i5 8500
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Kingston 2666Mhz
SSD/NVME: 256GB Samsung NVMe
NETWORK: HP 561T 10Gbe (Intel X540 T2)
MOTHERBOARD: Proprietry
GPU: Intel UHD Graphics 630
PSU: 90Watt
CASE: HP EliteDesk 800 G4 SFF
Full Rig Info

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: 2 x Xeon|E5-2696-V4 (44C/88T)
RAM: 128GB|16 x 8GB - DDR4 2400MHz (2Rx8)
MOTHERBOARD: HP Z840|Intel C612 Chipset
GPU: Nvidia Quadro P2200
HDD: 4x 16TB Toshiba MG08ACA16TE Enterprise
SSD/NVME: Intel 512GB 670p NVMe (Main OS)
SSD/NVME 2: 2x WD RED 1TB NVMe (VM's)
SSD/NVME 3: 2x Seagate FireCuda 1TB SSD's (Apps)
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've read rumors that the 9000 X3D chips may bring something different to the table this generation. I'm not sure what that would be, but the obvious candidates would be more, faster, or dual-CCD 3D cache. They're in a situation where they pretty much have to bring something different to the table or else this generation really is the AMD Raptor Lake refresh.

Edited by Snakecharmed

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
MOTHERBOARD: Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi
RAM: 64 GB (2x32 GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 CL30
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: 1 TB WD_BLACK SN850X PCIe 4.0 NVMe
SSD/NVME 2: 2 TB WD_BLACK SN770 PCIe 4.0 NVMe
MONITOR: 38" LG UltraGear 38GN950-B 3840x1600 144 Hz
MONITOR 2: 55" Samsung Neo QLED QN85A 4K 120 Hz 4:4:4
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
MOTHERBOARD: ASRock X300M-STM
RAM: 16 GB (2x8 GB) ADATA DDR4-3200 CL22
SSD/NVME: 500 GB Gigabyte Gen3 2500E PCIe 3.0 NVMe
SSD/NVME 2: 3.84 TB Samsung PM863a Enterprise SATA 6 Gbps
CASE: ASRock DeskMini X300W
CPU COOLER: Thermalright AXP90-X36
CPU COOLER 2: [Fan] Noctua NF-A9x14 92mm PWM 2.52 W
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Snakecharmed said:

I've read rumors that the 9000 X3D chips may bring something different to the table this generation. I'm not sure what that would be, but the obvious candidates would be more, faster, or dual-CCD 3D cache. They're in a situation where they pretty much have to bring something different to the table or else this generation really is the AMD Raptor Lake refresh.

 

I read somewhere (comments on VC. net?) that the placement of the cache may be relocated. Implemented in a way where it doesn’t increase thermal resistance and lower clocks or core speeds vs. non-3D parts.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

This Website may place and access certain Cookies on your computer. ExtremeHW uses Cookies to improve your experience of using the Website and to improve our range of products and services. ExtremeHW has carefully chosen these Cookies and has taken steps to ensure that your privacy is protected and respected at all times. All Cookies used by this Website are used in accordance with current UK and EU Cookie Law. For more information please see our Privacy Policy