techspot AMD Ryzen 5000 launch: "Fastest gaming CPU", higher clocks, higher prices

[m4fox90]

That unified cache and IPC improvements bode well. I can't wait to see what they push out on DDR5 next cycle, the upgrade should be very good, even from my 3900X.

[Sir Beregond]

1 hour ago, m4fox90 said:

That unified cache and IPC improvements bode well. I can't wait to see what they push out on DDR5 next cycle, the upgrade should be very good, even from my 3900X.

 

I thought about waiting for Zen 4 on 5nm and DDR5, but new RAM is always expensive when it first comes out. I think I'm ok upgrading to mature AM$ platform with DDR4 for cheap and Zen 3 and then we'll see what things look like in 2-4 years time.

Edited October 16, 2020 by Sir Beregond

[ENTERPRISE]

8 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

 

I thought about waiting for Zen 4 on 5nm and DDR5, but new RAM is always expensive when it first comes out. I think I'm ok upgrading to mature AM$ platform with DDR4 for cheap and Zen 3 and then we'll see what things look like in 2-4 years time.

 

Yeah, I have been thinking about getting the 5950x BUT in all honesty while it is a great CPU, I just think with DDR4 kicking around the corner, there is little point in an upgrade right now from a 3950X.

[Sir Beregond]

1 minute ago, ENTERPRISE said:

 

Yeah, I have been thinking about getting the 5950x BUT in all honesty while it is a great CPU, I just think with DDR4 kicking around the corner, there is little point in an upgrade right now from a 3950X.

 

Yeah I wouldn't upgrade that either personally. I'm on an almost 6 year old PC now, so I'm definitely more in need of an upgrade. 

[ENTERPRISE]

Just now, Sir Beregond said:

 

Yeah I wouldn't upgrade that either personally. I'm on an almost 6 year old PC now, so I'm definitely more in need of an upgrade. 

Yeah, think I will wait for the Nvidia 3000 series to move over to 7nm TSMC in 2021 and buy a GPU instead lol

 

[Sir Beregond]

3 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Yeah, think I will wait for the Nvidia 3000 series to move over to 7nm TSMC in 2021 and buy a GPU instead lol

 

 

Still trying to decide if that rumor is true or not. Would make sense, but would also mean they would have had to develop that in tandem with the Samsung "8"nm versions. Definitely can't copy/paste those. If it does end up being true, RIP early adopters of Ampere. 

 

Curious to see what the GPU landscape looks like around March next year which is when I was thinking of building new rig (same case). I will need a GPU too.

Edited October 16, 2020 by Sir Beregond

[ENTERPRISE]

1 hour ago, Sir Beregond said:

 

Still trying to decide if that rumor is true or not. Would make sense, but would also mean they would have had to develop that in tandem with the Samsung "8"nm versions. Definitely can't copy/paste those. If it does end up being true, RIP early adopters of Ampere. 

 

Curious to see what the GPU landscape looks like around March next year which is when I was thinking of building new rig (same case). I will need a GPU too.

I reckon its true. I think they designed the Samsung and TSMC in tandem knowing that when production free's up at TSMC they would jump ship. They wanted 7nm in the first place but was relegated to 8nm from Samsung out of necessity to keep their launch schedule. 

[Sir Beregond]

38 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

I reckon its true. I think they designed the Samsung and TSMC in tandem knowing that when production free's up at TSMC they would jump ship. They wanted 7nm in the first place but was relegated to 8nm from Samsung out of necessity to keep their launch schedule. 

 

Yeah, this does make sense and jives with earlier statements they have made about Ampere primarily using TSMC 7nm.

 

Guess I'll say it again, RIP early adopters!

[ENTERPRISE]

23 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

 

Yeah, this does make sense and jives with earlier statements they have made about Ampere primarily using TSMC 7nm.

 

Guess I'll say it again, RIP early adopters!

I actually think its a crying shame that these days being an early adopter is becoming more like a punishment. We all get bad and buggy drivers etc in the beginning... maybe even a bad batch of hardware which you can at least get sorted on warranty. But getting shafted when a company basically upgrades the product you just bought...not on really. Not liking that new culture at all.

[Sir Beregond]

6 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

I actually think its a crying shame that these days being an early adopter is becoming more like a punishment. We all get bad and buggy drivers etc in the beginning... maybe even a bad batch of hardware which you can at least get sorted on warranty. But getting shafted when a company basically upgrades the product you just bought...not on really. Not liking that new culture at all.

 

Agree. Sad to see hardware following software trends where buggy and unfinished products get released to later be refreshed or completed...maybe.

 

Ampere feels like Fermi to me. GTX 580 came out 8 months following the GTX 480..

[Diffident]

That's the way it used to be.  In the early 2000's tech was progressing so fast that new cards would be released in a year or less.

I had a ATI 9700 Pro, in less than a year it was replaced by the 9800 Pro.

[Sir Beregond]

On 10/18/2020 at 8:17 AM, Diffident said:

That's the way it used to be.  In the early 2000's tech was progressing so fast that new cards would be released in a year or less.

I had a ATI 9700 Pro, in less than a year it was replaced by the 9800 Pro.

 

True, but in the Fermi example, it was an actual necessary refresh for the 400-series which was a hot mess even though it was winning. This was the most recent example for Nvidia analogous to what I think will probably happen with Ampere.