Sir Beregond

Sounds like I will just keep waiting then...assuming my curiosity doesn't get the better of me once the new rig is built.

Oh man I got like 20 of these things in my parts closet. They might actually go with my upcoming build theme again haha.

One thing I'll add to the discussion on radiator fans, yeah when talking maximum performance you are right on the money about static pressure and push/pull configurations. Personally another facet/benefit that water-cooling affords is for those of us who absolutely hate fan noises. Still get proper static pressure fans, add enough radiator space to the loop, and you can run those bad boys at RPMs where you can barely hear them even under load. Maximum performance? No. But far better than air cooling and you can always adjust for those times you do want max performance. Having a silent PC has addicted me to watercooling. I do have one question though. Does push/pull really make more than a small difference in performance? I always thought it seemed kinda overkill, but if "pushing to the limit" I suppose it makes sense.

From what I have heard, a theoretical 3070 Ti/Super will basically replace the 3080 and a 3080 Super/Ti will essentially be a 20Gb or 12GB 3090.

Is VRAM really even that expensive? I'd love to see actual material costs.

Endoscopy on Tuesday. And because my insurance sucks it's gonna hurt the wallet.

Hard to say really because in the current climate Nvidia/AMD aren't really setting the prices anymore.

I'm just doing a simple loop. CPU, GPU, 2 rads, pump/res. I think this is well written and good advice for all. The one part where I am faltering is that I really would like to try a hardline build and the new white Meyhems fluid is looking interesting. But may also just say nuts to that and stick with my white Primochill tubing and clear X1. I don't know...The shallow part of me is starting to take over lol. Alternatively may just look at sticking to clear and painting the tubes? Not sure. In the past I had always flushed with hot tap water and then several rounds of distilled. My last build had a lot of debris problems and then plating flaking (but I think that's just down to crappy EK blocks). I bought a Blitz kit for the upcoming build and plenty of distilled for flushing after that is done.

Concur that silver coils are relics of the past with modern biocide/inhibitors for distilled water (kill coil is not an inhibitor, so would still need that), or fluids like X1 (that's what I am using currently too). I wholeheartedly agree about opaque and pastel style fluids. That said, the shallow part of me is really interested in the new white fluid Mayhem's is making for the new build if I decide to try my hand at hard line (something I've never done before).

I wonder if the idea to do lower end cards was to avoid miners grabbing them? Either way, does no good if they are going for that kind of price. It will only work if they start flooding them. 2060 could be a decent enough holdover card if you are on older stuff like Maxwell.

That's unfortunate.

Ah, cheers. Is that one different from the normal FTW3 PCB? I think quite a few are doing blocks for the FTW3 cards, just they're not out yet. But yeah, hear ya on having to wait. Got a pre-order into Performance PCs today for my 3070 Alphacool block. Never used Alphacool before so hopefully it's good. Chatted with them and they said they should be getting them in really soon.

The Bykski block is the only other one I am aware of. Both EK and Alphacool FE blocks have inlet/outlet at the end. Bykski 3090 FE

It might simply be for OEMs. Not really sure and seems odd. I suppose if they can get some capacity for 12nm it kinda makes sense, but I don't know. At that point might as well bring the rest of Turing out too why not?

Perfect thanks...I think I actually have one of those sitting in a closet. Didn't really work with FSX and is probably 5(ish) years old or so.

So, going to pick this up soon. What do you recommend for controls. Can I get away with a joystick or should I look at something else?

I am speechless. I am without speech.

PSU pic didn't load, but that "block"...I don't know what to say. ??

Yeah that was my thought as well. Nice upgrade from my GTX 980 for 1440p. The GTX 980 was a fantastic card for 1080p I had no complaints until I upgraded monitors last year lol. Also looks like Alphacool is also making a GPU block for it. EK made one but its...aluminum. ? What is wrong with that company?

So I don't know what to say. I've been on these stock alert discords and a Zotac alert went out. Not my ideal card of choice but thought what the hell and tried. I snagged the 3070 Twin Edge OC. Just got the confirmation. Looks like Bykski is going to make a waterblock for it so guess I'll be ok. I've given up on 3080 at this point.

At this point I am just going to enter the Newegg Shuffles when they put up stuff that I may want, but not holding my breath at all. I think gaming GPUs are just hosed this year.

Not really. Not sure what the official AMD support is for it, but in terms of reality, no developer is really supporting multi-GPU in this day and age and Nvidia and AMD have stopped making profiles. Stick a fork in it Jerry...for gaming it's done.

I freaking give up. TWICE I got a 3080 FE in my cart during the Best Buy drop, but they kept screwing around with the shipping or pickup options available that it was impossible to proceed to payment until oops its out of stock now. I am done trying. What I get for skipping Pascal and Turing. Spent last year excited to build something new come this year. I'm finally just legitimately pissed off today.

Oh yeah, I am just starting small as I only really started understanding how to do stocks this year. Previously most of my effort was with my 401k which is doing nicely.

I bought some Palantir when it first launched. Wish I had added a 0 to the amount I invested as it has almost 4X'd since.