ArchStanton

63% off sticker price...wow.

No worries , it was said in jest, and I half expected you or another of the fellas to put me in the corner with my dunce cap on as you patiently explained why one cannot dual boot W10/W11. Speaking of fellas, with all the female "gamers", where the %$#@ are the female overclockers. To be fair though, perhaps my intuitions are wrong, and instead of a total sausage festival, this forum and OCN are literally teaming with estrogen hidden behind rather non-descript avatars (or). Her username escapes me at the moment, but I have a vague recollection of scattered posts by a flow measurement "specialist" over at OCN (Linda-something?). /ramble off

Dual boot, for science?

Glad to hear the patient has made it to the recovery room!

@Storm-ChaserThe motherboard was powered when the leakage occurred? Either way, I am sorry to hear about your misfortune.

Thanks for the tip. I'll make "other arrangements" at my next loop maintenance.

Es un chico sano.

I've learned quite a bit tonight, I think. I started out tinkering with a static OC for use in conjunction with the C8DH's dynamic OC feature. What I believe I learned is that it's relatively easy to setup a static OC that will throw out some big numbers in CBR23 (31,500+ for MT) or CPU-Z, but if we try to tune the static OC for a worst-case scenario (I used prime95/small FFT/with AVX/AVX2 enabled), by the time we get the overclock stable and thermally manage able our increased performance has evaporated. Since AMD based systems don't have an AVX offset, that I'm aware of, the options seem somewhat limited. I have the impression that at the end of the day, PBO2 and its management algorithm keep all the really handy adjustment dials hidden behind the curtain. My self-imposed goal of a maximum overclock that is 100% daily driving safe and stable (even under less than likely usage cases like the prime95 configuration indicated above) hasn't changed. So, at this point I plan to chuck ASUS's DOC feature out with the bath water, rollback to an older driver, and try again with just PBO2. I can imagine specific use cases where DOC switching might be advantageous, but I don't believe they currently apply to me. I'll try to summarize some of the behavior I observed from my system tonight. I maxed out my ambient cooling capabilities at 303W. This loading was achieved using the indicated prime95 configuration. Other settings included 1.35 VID set / 1.203 VID get (LLC 2). HWiNFO64 indicated a peak "CPU" temperature of 82⁰C, but I had a peak core temperature of 94.5⁰C. CCD0 clocked @ 4.5GHZ and CCD1 @ 4.45GHZ. At these settings, I was scoring around 30,150 in CBR23. I think my previous best was 30,500ish with PBO2 (admittedly with a less than 100% stable CPU, but no RAM tune to speak of). I think I can claw my way back to the 30,500 neighborhood with rock solid stability given time. Wish me luck . P.S. I'm don't doubt a liquid metal application between CPU die and waterblock could assist me, but I'm not in the mood to drain and dismantle the loop again currently. I certainly do get the appeal of quick disconnect fittings now, even if they do introduce a little more flow restriction.

Bobby McGee would disagree

Forget to mention, I checked TDC from 80-140 in CPU-Z and CBR23 ST. The default value of 95 gave the best performance for single thread high boosting loads (I thought @Sir Beregond might find this handy as he has a similar config to myself and @J7SC_Orion, though J7SC runs the older 3501 BIOS with the uncapped EDC I believe). Edit: Err, excuse me. It's not an uncapped EDC. On BIOS 3801 and older, the VID isn't limited to 1.425 IF EDC is set above 140. There, that's more accurate.

I've been wondering (still am) if Putin got "pre-approval" with China before starting this ball rolling.

I was able to put in some quality tweaking and testing time this weekend. My initial efforts have been concentrated on single core performance, as I plan to use a static OC in conjunction with the C8DH's dynamic OC feature. I'm using BIOS 4004, so EDC must be set to 140 (default) if we don't want VID capped at 1.425. PPT is set to 150 (higher values didn't seem to affect things one way or the other, which makes sense under the test constraints). Overclocking the RAM was the toughest part for me, and I still have work to do in that area, but I did make decent progress (feels that way to me at least). Testing done at 20⁰C ambient (#$%@ CB23 and CPU-Z scores made me long for a chiller to cheat with so badly, could taste 1680 and 700). Overclocks confirmed stable with CoreCycler(P95/720-720/auto runtime/SSE/hyperthreading disabled/100 iterations) and TestMem5 (extreme@anta777 6 cycles).

Did I read that correctly? Projected "MSRP" of $5,000 for the RTX 3090 TI? I realize these are leaks/rumors, but still...Where is @Sir Beregond. I wish to join his band wagon. P.S. I know this rumored price is not out of line for a "workstation" professional card, but I don't currently have the impression it will marketed as such.

Ah, mustard and ketchup, I recall thee from my youth.

@AvacadoNot much of a raise imo. If you got any accurate readings from those DVMs it would be a total fluke...

Woof!

@J7SC_Orion Any particular task you have in mind for it? Or just something you needed/wanted (i.e., previous unit played out)?

What kind of full load PPT are we talking at those settings?

One of the few "Frame Chasers" videos I've watched involved the use said kit (Delidding 12900K Temp Results!! - YouTube). I hope I'm not putting my foot in my mouth (never know who's who on the interwebs), but I prefer der8auer's steadier Prussian methodology over Mr. Chaser's hyperkinetic disjointed Québécois rambling .

In order to take advantage of your particular sample's "extra" features, the prospective customer will need a motherboard that has never been updated beyond a certain point in time, correct? Forgive my ignorance, but I am under the impression that "BIOS" files sometimes contain pieces of code that become "permanent" even if the user reverts back to a previous BIOS at a later date. "Microcode" is the term I see used most frequently in discussions pertaining to these changes. I do not mean to imply that individuals with access to the requisite tools could not undo these changes, only that it will require more than a thumb drive and internet connection.

OverCilice.net?

Thank you for the tips. Thankfully I had no issues with cavitation. I'm pretty familiar with the phenomenon. The hydraulic pumps on mobile equipment are at risk of it when other components are faulty (usually a clogged intake filter/strainer or a collapsed supply line). It makes a very distinctive sound, and when we disassemble the pumps, the internals will look like a blacksmith when to work on them with a ballpeen hammer.

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Per his projected build, we're talking $900+ in DRAM at current market conditions?

Well %$#@, <wads up "shopping list" and throws it away> guess nobody else gets to play now Edit: After reading his list, I have a prediction regarding his flow rate. I'm guessing 0.65 gallons per minute as he has it configured.