videocardz GeForce RTX 3090 Ti Founders Edition is NVIDIA’s first graphics card with 16-pin power connector

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The RTX 3090 Ti is a new 450W graphics card based on Ampere architecture.

 

There is a Founder’s Edition of the RTX 3090 Ti. The card presented at CES 2022 will become available for sale. We have some new photos of this new semi-custom design by NVIDIA, that will become available though select retail partners as well as NVIDIA’s own official webstore.

 

The card retains the 3-slot configuration and the size of the original RTX 3090 Founders SKU. The RTX 3090 Ti is the new flagship Ampere SKU, featuring GA102-350 GPU and 21 Gbps GDDR6 memory.

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[Sir Beregond]

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The RTX 3090 Ti is the new flagship Ampere SKU, featuring GA102-350 GPU and 21 Gbps GDDR6 memory.

Do they mean GDDR6X?

 

Anyway, I think this card is a joke personally. 100W more power draw for 5-10% more performance?  They've hit diminishing returns on this. I wonder what the actual MSRP will turn out to be.

Edited March 28, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[J7SC_Orion]

...I also wonder about a.) usefulness b.) availability and c.) actual pricing re. the 3090 Ti. It's quite late in the Ampere product cycle already with the next-gen architecture enterprise models just introduced (H100), and consumer versions (RTX 4Kx / Ada Lovelace) already sampling with vendors.

 

As to power consumption, my admittedly-well running 3090 Strix on stock bios is already at 450W, with measured peaks at over 500W with the PL slider maxed...never mind the KPE 520W / 1KW custom bios also on there...

 

RTX 4Kx apparently use up to 4x 8 pin of the current PSU PCIe cables, or those new PCIe connector versions just being introduced, with custom models apparently exceeding 600W...

 

Even if it is 'only' 520W, what about the electricity consumption and climate change ? That's probably not a hot topic w/ enthusiast computing but still one which will loom much larger for all. My family has reduced our carbon footprint significantly via just a few conscious decisions, but my enthusiast computing continues in the opposite direction...  

[Sir Beregond]

39 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

...I also wonder about a.) usefulness b.) availability and c.) actual pricing re. the 3090 Ti. It's quite late in the Ampere product cycle already with the next-gen architecture enterprise models just introduced (H100), and consumer versions (RTX 4Kx / Ada Lovelace) already sampling with vendors.

 

As to power consumption, my admittedly-well running 3090 Strix on stock bios is already at 450W, with measured peaks at over 500W with the PL slider maxed...never mind the KPE 520W / 1KW custom bios also on there...

 

RTX 4Kx apparently use up to 4x 8 pin of the current PSU PCIe cables, or those new PCIe connector versions just being introduced, with custom models apparently exceeding 600W...

 

Even if it is 'only' 520W, what about the electricity consumption and climate change ? That's probably not a hot topic w/ enthusiast computing but still one which will loom much larger for all. My family has reduced our carbon footprint significantly via just a few conscious decisions, but my enthusiast computing continues in the opposite direction...  

Yeah, considering rising energy costs, it just feels kind of, I don't know...irresponsible? I'm willing to be in the minority for thinking that way in the enthusiast community as I know many won't care in the pursuit of performance. But just seems like going the wrong direction to me. You used to get more performance AND lower power draw. This feels more like hitting a wall and throwing as much power through it as possible to get the performance.

[EHW Ai]

Then there's Galax, of course:

 

GALAX launches GeForce RTX 3090 Ti HOF with dual 16-pin power connectors and up to 516W of power

 

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This is the first known graphics card to feature not one but two 16-pin power connectors. These are the new standard connectors for RTX 3090 Ti and possibly all future NVIDIA GPUs. The RTX 3090 Ti will come with a 3x 8-pin to 16-pin adapters, which are locked to 450W. However, future GPUs will benefit from the full 600W PCIe Gen5 specs, should such power supplies be ready at that time.

 

[J7SC_Orion]

2x 3090 Ti HoF w/ water blocks could be entertaining for a while

 

hopefully powered by green energy  

 

 

Edited March 30, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[Avacado]

48 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

2x 3090 Ti HoF w/ water blocks could be entertaining for a while

 

hopefully powered by green energy  

 

 

If only I had $5000

[J7SC_Orion]

34 minutes ago, Avacado said:

If only I had $5000

 

...what I actually find most interesting about this particular Hof OCL is the PCB and its dual new hi-po power connectors...because I've read several times now that the RTX 4 Ada L is supposed to be pin-compatible with the 3090 Ti. So this could be a bit of a preview of what is to come. Hopefully, Buildzoid gets his hands on this PCB for a detailed review.

[ArchStanton]

Picture stolen from: [Official] Heatkiller Club | Page 295 | Overclock.net (post 5,894)

 

 

I presume that is where the additional connector gets soldered onto Ada.

 

 

 

[Avacado]

26 minutes ago, ArchStanton said:

Picture stolen from: [Official] Heatkiller Club | Page 295 | Overclock.net (post 5,894)

 

 

I presume that is where the additional connector gets soldered onto Ada.

 

 

 

Good find, looks about right.

 

[J7SC_Orion]

found the actual new PCB pic, per > 'DigitNews'

 

also, the water block is apparently by Bitspower

 

 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[ArchStanton]

That appears to be a substantially more "populated" PCB for sure.

[Avacado]

Bring the pain, i've got 9 PCI-E plugs on my PSU. 

[Sir Beregond]

2 hours ago, Avacado said:

Bring the pain, i've got 9 PCI-E plugs on my PSU. 

Dang, what PSU is that?

[Avacado]

5 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Dang, what PSU is that

 https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-titanium-sf-1600f14ht-1600w/p/1HU-024C-00014?Item=9SIAMNPB0A4085&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAMNPB0A4085-_-03302022

Edited March 30, 2022 by Avacado

[EHW Ai]

2 hours ago, Avacado said:

 https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-titanium-sf-1600f14ht-1600w/p/1HU-024C-00014?Item=9SIAMNPB0A4085&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAMNPB0A4085-_-03302022

 

Hey, I've got one of those (too). 

 

They were a little less expensive when I bought mine though:

 

Edited March 30, 2022 by iamjanco

[ArchStanton]

I believe I am correct that the Corsair 1600axi is still the only digital control "big boy" on the market?  When Seasonic/EVGA/Super Flower manage to bring something of equal performance to market, I will be very tempted to get one.

 

[Sir Beregond]

34 minutes ago, ArchStanton said:

I believe I am correct that the Corsair 1600axi is still the only digital control "big boy" on the market?  When Seasonic/EVGA/Super Flower manage to bring something of equal performance to market, I will be very tempted to get one.

 

What is meant by digital control? For a PSU?

[ArchStanton]

11 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

What is meant by digital control?

An excerpt from Aris's review:  "Thanks to digital control, innovative features like the totem-pole PFC converter can be used to offer efficiency levels that simply aren't possible from older analog designs (at least until an analog controller for this type of PFC converter becomes available)."

 

The full article, as it's a lot to take in:  

Corsair AX1600i Review - Tom's Hardware | Tom's Hardware

WWW.TOMSHARDWARE.COM

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It is tough to improve something that it is already excellent, so Corsair's desire to build an even better PSU than its current flagship, the AX1500i, is noteworthy. More impressive, the AX1600i succeeds in...

 

I believe the "community" still trusts Aris to be impartial despite his reviews being published on TH, but if this is no longer the case, then somebody please slap this newb and set me straight .

[mouacyk]

On 28/03/2022 at 12:29, Sir Beregond said:

Yeah, considering rising energy costs, it just feels kind of, I don't know...irresponsible? I'm willing to be in the minority for thinking that way in the enthusiast community as I know many won't care in the pursuit of performance. But just seems like going the wrong direction to me. You used to get more performance AND lower power draw. This feels more like hitting a wall and throwing as much power through it as possible to get the performance.

Whatever the f happened? My best guess is something like the following is happening, since graphics complexity is squared, so along with a generational 1.5x perf improvement, you have to keep increasing power draw to make up for the gap.

Edited March 30, 2022 by mouacyk

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On 30/03/2022 at 01:11, J7SC_Orion said:

2x 3090 Ti HoF w/ water blocks could be entertaining for a while

 

hopefully powered by green energy  

 

 

Only for folding