Vivaldi disguising it's self as Chrome so it won't be blocked by sites.....

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It's pretty sad that browsers like Vivaldi and yes,Brave, have to hide who they are when going to some web sites if they want to work right.Google for example doesn't play well with them when they say who they are.If they remove their names from the id strings,the browsers work fine.EVEN Microsoft Edge(another chromium based browser)has to remove it's id for some web sites to function properly. See the story here... https://www.zdnet.com/article/vivaldi-to-change-user-agent-string-to-chrome-due-to-unfair-blocking/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=26489920132515480536915462877029

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I have to say, I think we will see more of this, especially with Google and other Chromium based browsers locking down on certain sites as well as what has been stated as unfair treatment whereby Google have been caught undermining competing services so they do not function etc. This is part of the problem when a company gets a little too large !

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I have to say, I think we will see more of this, especially with Google and other Chromium based browsers locking down on certain sites as well as what has been stated as unfair treatment whereby Google have been caught undermining competing services so they do not function etc. This is part of the problem when a company gets a little too large !

 

Surprised the E.U. hasn't hit Google with a lawsuit yet.They hit microsoft with 1 for having Internet Explorer as the default browser and not offering a ver.of windows without it.Isn't Google doing the same type of thing?

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I have to say, I think we will see more of this, especially with Google and other Chromium based browsers locking down on certain sites as well as what has been stated as unfair treatment whereby Google have been caught undermining competing services so they do not function etc. This is part of the problem when a company gets a little too large !

 

Surprised the E.U. hasn't hit Google with a lawsuit yet.They hit microsoft with 1 for having Internet Explorer as the default browser and not offering a ver.of windows without it.Isn't Google doing the same type of thing?

 

You could argue that, not sure why it has not been bought up yet within the EU, but I would imagine that if they carry on the practice (and can be proven) there would be some form of hearing.

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Moved to Software News.

 

I have to say, I think we will see more of this, especially with Google and other Chromium based browsers locking down on certain sites as well as what has been stated as unfair treatment whereby Google have been caught undermining competing services so they do not function etc. This is part of the problem when a company gets a little too large !

 

Surprised the E.U. hasn't hit Google with a lawsuit yet.They hit microsoft with 1 for having Internet Explorer as the default browser and not offering a ver.of windows without it.Isn't Google doing the same type of thing?

 

You could argue that, not sure why it has not been bought up yet within the EU, but I would imagine that if they carry on the practice (and can be proven) there would be some form of hearing.

 

I kinda think microsoft got singled out, after all, haven't seen them chasing apple. "And Apple's iOS (mobile operating system) is an acknowledged disaster for Mozilla. Safari is the default and, while users can install other browsers, they come doubly hindered: they can never be set as the default, meaning any link clicked in other applications will open in Safari; and they must use Safari's rendering engine�, a technical limitation that means that even the browsers that Firefox does have on the platform are technically just fancy wrappers for Apple's own browser, rather than full versions of the service that Mozilla has built over the decades."

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That is a fair point regarding iOS and I did not realise the restrictions on the iPhone which kind of hamstrings all other browsers. Surprised they have not had legal action taken against them (or maybe they did and I missed it)

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It's pretty sad that browsers like Vivaldi and yes,Brave, have to hide who they are when going to some web sites if they want to work right.Google for example doesn't play well with them when they say who they are.If they remove their names from the id strings,the browsers work fine.EVEN Microsoft Edge(another chromium based browser)has to remove it's id for some web sites to function properly. See the story here... https://www.zdnet.com/article/vivaldi-to-change-user-agent-string-to-chrome-due-to-unfair-blocking/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=26489920132515480536915462877029

 

Tbh vivaldi has been chromium based and I dislike the trend in the industry, so I keep supporting the alternatives to google, remember that we need concurrence for innovation.

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I have to say, I think we will see more of this, especially with Google and other Chromium based browsers locking down on certain sites as well as what has been stated as unfair treatment whereby Google have been caught undermining competing services so they do not function etc. This is part of the problem when a company gets a little too large !

 

Surprised the E.U. hasn't hit Google with a lawsuit yet.They hit microsoft with 1 for having Internet Explorer as the default browser and not offering a ver.of windows without it.Isn't Google doing the same type of thing?

 

EU is hitting google with lawsuit's every other year and EU hasn't woken up yet about what google is doing

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Moved to Software News.

 

I have to say, I think we will see more of this, especially with Google and other Chromium based browsers locking down on certain sites as well as what has been stated as unfair treatment whereby Google have been caught undermining competing services so they do not function etc. This is part of the problem when a company gets a little too large !

 

Surprised the E.U. hasn't hit Google with a lawsuit yet.They hit microsoft with 1 for having Internet Explorer as the default browser and not offering a ver.of windows without it.Isn't Google doing the same type of thing?

 

You could argue that, not sure why it has not been bought up yet within the EU, but I would imagine that if they carry on the practice (and can be proven) there would be some form of hearing.

 

I kinda think microsoft got singled out, after all, haven't seen them chasing apple. "And Apple's iOS (mobile operating system) is an acknowledged disaster for Mozilla. Safari is the default and, while users can install other browsers, they come doubly hindered: they can never be set as the default, meaning any link clicked in other applications will open in Safari; and they must use Safari's rendering engine�, a technical limitation that means that even the browsers that Firefox does have on the platform are technically just fancy wrappers for Apple's own browser, rather than full versions of the service that Mozilla has built over the decades."

 

There are no alternatives to safari on apple, everything that is not safari is reskin of it

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That is certainly an eye opener, being an Android user I had no idea. I know that the iOS ecosystem is very closed off, but did not realize that of Safari !

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lol, Google & Apple both can be heard chanting "One browser to rule them,and in the darkness BIND THEM!"