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3DMark Speed Way Benchmarks


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Post your Speed Way results here. HWBOT rules require 3DMark have ECC enabled on 40-series GPUs. If you post results using a 40-series GeForce GPU with ECC disabled, please indicate that if you do not post a link to the result and screenshots showing GPU-Z with the diminished memory capacity when ECC is enabled. Otherwise, results will be misleading apples vs oranges comparisons.

 

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/94304600 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5276042_mr._fox_3dmark___speed_way_geforce_rtx_4090_10760_marks

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Huh. Wonder why they changed that rule. Also I didn't realize 40-series vram was ECC.

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12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Post your Speed Way results here. HWBOT rules require 3DMark have ECC enabled on 40-series GPUs. If you post results using a 40-series GeForce GPU with ECC disabled, please indicate that if you do not post a link to the result and screenshots showing GPU-Z with the diminished memory capacity when ECC is enabled. Otherwise, results will be misleading apples vs oranges comparisons.

 

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/94304600 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5276042_mr._fox_3dmark___speed_way_geforce_rtx_4090_10760_marks

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...kudos, really good result for ECC

 

5 hours ago, Avacado said:

Thank you for making this thread Fox! I will try to get some subs in here too. ECC does really bring down the points....

 

...I'll try to find some older comparisons I did with ECC on vs off at the same MHz using memtest_vulkan...regular GDDR6X actually already has 'some' error correction built in anyhow, but 'full on ECC' is an unnecessary anvil to drag behind.

 

4 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Huh. Wonder why they changed that rule. Also I didn't realize 40-series vram was ECC.

 

... @Avacado @Bastiaan_NL and I had some extensive discussions when this first arose...some HWBot elite league folks felt upstaged by 'regular' newbies who posted results which clearly had some artifacts. Then HWBot did a knee-jerk reaction and required only RTX 4K cards to run with ECC on. My HWBot elite league years are behind me anyway, but I argued that this rule change only applying to one model range is ludicrous and a failure of HWBot management....they introduced a huge bias with that even though a bit of sleuthing can expose artifact runs anyways. All that said, I don't like it either when 3DM has results that are clearly involved artifacts but as mentioned, you can usually tell by looking at extra details and fps curves.

 

...a couple of my runs below from up to ~ March '23 for both Port Royal and Speedway involved artifacts - but I didn't post those. I also have newer runs, but not handy. Anyways, 'the cure' is worse than 'the disease', IMO.

 

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Addendum:  Also per earlier discussions, there are some up-to-date, quick tests to check and scan for artifacts (ie. below)...s.th. like that should be built into 3DM SystemInfo (which takes forever these days anyways 😡) for any card and model to make it a level playing field...

 
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6 hours ago, Avacado said:

Thank you for making this thread Fox! I will try to get some subs in here too. ECC does really bring down the points....

Certainly. I really wish NVIDIA had not exposed the option in NVIDIA Control Panel. 

5 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Huh. Wonder why they changed that rule. Also I didn't realize 40-series vram was ECC.

Brother @J7SC_Orionnailed it. There was one elite overclocker in particular that was pushing it really hard.

2 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

Anyways, 'the cure' is worse than 'the disease', IMO.

I agree. Had NVIDIA not exposed the option in the Control Panel, this never would have had an opportunity to be a point of contention. It would have remained a non-issue as it always had been, and as it continues to be for those that do not own a 40-series GPU.

2 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

this rule change only applying to one model range is ludicrous and a failure of HWBot management.

Absolutely. While I still enjoy overclocked benching, even more than PC gaming that was my gateway into being a performance PC enthusiast, I am really not OK with the favoritism and politics and the unfair advantage given to the elite group. They already get access to non-standard and special binned hardware and unlocked firmware and tuning software that everyone else is denied access to, which is really lame. Having rules changed to make it more challenging for those without access to compete is just as lame. All of this is beginning to diminish my interest in participation.  It is not as much fun when the winners are predestined and receive special treatment to help facilitate that. It is essentially a rigged outcome.

 

Anecdotally, the non-ECC scores submitted by the Chosen Ones were not removed when the scores of the peons were being deleted, and it wasn't until some of the peons began chirping about those scores remaining on the leaderboard that they got taken down. What is interesting is the fact that some of the Chosen Ones haven't submitted new scores with ECC enabled.  It seems the only people freaking out about the possibility a few people might win by cheating are those chosen to live in the Ivory Tower. It is sad that some are so afraid of losing to someone that wasn't granted special favor through a benefactor.

 

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Yeah that's really unfortunate. It's just supposed to be for the fun of it really. Elite overclockers should be happy more amateurs are getting into the space.

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10 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

Yeah that's really unfortunate. It's just supposed to be for the fun of it really. Elite overclockers should be happy more amateurs are getting into the space.

Totally. If nothing else, it ensures the sport we all enjoy will survive and their elitism will have a reason to exist.

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I know i'm late to the party, i'm almost hesitant to post it but. best way to make new friends is to jump in the pool wearing a banana hammock right?  

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The Radeon RX 6900 XT @ 2730/2170MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Speed Way benchmark. Waffl3Ninjaranks #143...

 

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32 minutes ago, waffl3ninja said:

I know i'm late to the party, i'm almost hesitant to post it but. best way to make new friends is to jump in the pool wearing a banana hammock right?  

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The Radeon RX 6900 XT @ 2730/2170MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Speed Way benchmark. Waffl3Ninjaranks #143...

 

Welcome. Glad you joined the party. Better late than never. 😄

We will take and the new friends we can get. The more the merrier. 

 

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