Help with motherboard socket cover

[neurotix]

Hey all,

 

As a last ditch effort to see if I can fix the 2nd CCD of my 7900X3D not boosting at all, I am looking to pull the chip out of the socket and remount it. While also probably applying some PTM7950 thermal putty to the water block.

 

However, my board came with a socket cover and I read in the manual that it helps align the chip when you mount it.

 

Problem is, I've never reinstalled a socket cover! So I'm wondering, do I need to hold the retention bracket up and try to push the plastic socket cover through it while holding it up, or do I put it in place as if I am mounting a CPU and lower the socket arm down like I'd do for a CPU (won't it just push through the top like when I mounted the chip? And will it bend pins?)

 

Thanks guys.

[firedfly]

I would keep the CPU in the socket to protect the pins while you are installing the socket cover.  With the retention bracket up, you should be able to attach the socket cover to the bracket.

 

This youtube video looks helpful if you want to see the full process of installing the CPU.  For your purposes, it might be helpful to see how the socket cover comes preinstalled (e.g. orientation).  

 

[neurotix]

No, I know how to install the CPU, problem is if I leave it in the socket and lower the arm with the socket cover in place and the cpu in, the socket cover will pop out. By design.

 

I need to know how to reattach the socket cover to the metal retention bracket, like it was when the mobo was new.

[waffl3ninja]

Edited August 7, 2023 by waffl3ninja

[neurotix]

Not what I was asking for help for. Please, no off topic replies. I just need to know how to properly reattach the socket cover to the retention bracket.

[waffl3ninja]

Is this what you mean? the first pic kinda shows clips.  is that what you're trying to reinstall?

 

or would this be better

 

 

Edited August 7, 2023 by waffl3ninja

[neurotix]

What is referred to in the 2nd image as the "external cap". A piece of plastic that attaches to the retention bracket, that helps align the cpu when you install it, and pops off when you put a chip in and lower the arm all the way.

[Sir Beregond]

I'm lost as to how a socket cover is going to fix a broken CCD. The CPUs can only go in one way as far as I'm aware due to notching in the chip and socket.

 

The socket cover is only used to protect the pins when a CPU is not installed in the socket.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Sir Beregond

[neurotix]

I'm remounting it as a last ditch effort to get the damn thing to boost to 5.6GHz on the 2nd CCD like it used to.

 

The socket cover acts as a guide to align the chip and pops out when the retention bracket and arm are lowered with the cpu installed. It says so in my motherboard manual.

 

And I've tried everything to try and get the damn thing boosting for benchmarking. Its happened twice, when I first got it the 2nd CCD would hit 5650 running benchmarks, then after a month it just stopped one day. Eventually, a bios flash made it work again, but only for a month or two, then it stopped again and no bios flashes or troubleshooting I did with both Asus and AMD has fixed it. I really suspect that the boost clock limit for the first CCD with V-Cache is being applied to the whole chip by this "AMD 3D V Cache Optimizer service", two of which are running on my system and get installed with the chipset driver. So my second chiplet will not go above 5150MHz, which is the max for the first chiplet.

[waffl3ninja]

you could also kill two birds with one stone and try this out lots of good feedback about it and seems like if you would have to pull the am5 out again for any reason it easier to reinstall install.   its 8 bucks. PS read the article before you say no offtopic solutions. then again i really dont understand what the problem is.  

Thermalright busts out AMD Ryzen 7000 Series AMp5 socket frame | Club386

WWW.CLUB386.COM

---

Thermalright is aiming to strengthen Ryzen 7000 installation with a 45g aluminium frame.

AM5 Secure Frame RED – Thermalright

WWW.THERMALRIGHT.COM

 

Edited August 7, 2023 by waffl3ninja

[Sir Beregond]

22 minutes ago, neurotix said:

The socket cover acts as a guide to align the chip and pops out when the retention bracket and arm are lowered with the cpu installed. It says so in my motherboard manual.

Right. The cover I believe has the little corner triangle on it, etc. If your CPU is in the socket, this isn't your problem.

 

I mean you should try a remount sure, but literally all socket covers for LGA sockets pop out when you install a CPU. They aren't really for alignment, they just protect the socket.

[pio]

You're not using that Cooler Master PSU again are you?  A bad PSU could potentially effect your boost algorithms.  

[neurotix]

13 hours ago, pioneerisloud said:

You're not using that Cooler Master PSU again are you?  A bad PSU could potentially effect your boost algorithms.  

Lmao. No I'm not using it. I'm not that stupid, ty. I am using a Seasonic Vertex GX 1200w gold with a proper 12VHPWR cable.

 

Besides, this issue was happening with that old psu, and persists with the new one. We've even tried reinstalling Windows and that doesn't fix it when this issue is happening.

 

I may just end up getting a 7900x instead, other than that I might just have to wait for a bios fix.

 

 

[rares495]

7800 is the way. Or 7950 if you need lots of cores.

[neurotix]

22 minutes ago, rares495 said:

7800 is the way. Or 7950 if you need lots of cores.

Nope. I had a 3900x in 2019, then a 5900x last year, so it would have to be a 7900x because I'm not losing threads. The wife also is sick of buying stuff for me and so cannot afford a 7950x (we can afford it but she won't agree to it).

 

This thread had gone way off topic. Does anyone know how to reattach a plastic socket cover to the mounting bracket? This is not just for possibly remounting the CPU but also in case I get a new board and sell this one, or sell it in the future when I upgrade. Thanks.

 

@damric@The Pook@Fluxmaven

Edited August 8, 2023 by neurotix

[Fluxmaven]

I've never tried to put the plastic socket protector back on but I assume it just snaps on. I'd have to remember where I put the stock stuff to test that though 

 

[Sir Beregond]

LGA socket covers just snap back onto the retention mechanism. They will pop off if you close the retention mechanism with a CPU installed. They are literally just for protecting the pins when no CPU is present in the socket. I am not sure how it helps with "alignment" - the CPU can only go in one way due to notches in the socket/CPU.

[neurotix]

I guess you hold the bracket upright with your fingers and push the thing in with your thumbs from underneath or something then?

[Sir Beregond]

1 hour ago, neurotix said:

I guess you hold the bracket upright with your fingers and push the thing in with your thumbs from underneath or something then?

From on top. The plastic socket cover attaches on top of the retention bracket, hence why it would pop off if you close the mechanism with a CPU installed.

 

I found this video, I know its pretty rudimentary in explaining things, but it shows how the cover works. It helps in alignment only so much as it also has the corner triangle on it for correctly aligning the CPU with the socket. The socket also has the triangle though. But you can see clearly how the plastic cover works.

 

Basically all to say, the plastic cover isn't going to help you with anything you haven't already done just socketing the processor.

 

 

Edited August 8, 2023 by Sir Beregond

[neurotix]

Thanks. So you just latch the socket and push the plastic cover in from the top? I am talking about getting the cover back on the board if I decide to RMA it or sell it.

 

Also, I just tried remounting the CPU and it did not fix the 2nd CCD boosting problem as you and others stated.

 

Guess I'm stuck waiting for a bios update to permanently fix it, as one time when it wasn't boosting a new bios fixed it. (I have already tried reverting to that particular bios with USB bios flashback and it didn't fix my boosting issue. But if I want help with that I will make a new thread.)

 

Edited August 8, 2023 by neurotix