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AMD’s new integrated graphics are almost 70% faster than an RTX 4070


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AMD's upcoming Strix Halo flagship looks insane, outclassing a mobile RTX 4070 by nearly 70% in some games.


 

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AMD’s new integrated graphics look mighty powerful. According to AMD’s marketing materials, the upcoming Ryzen AI Max+ 395 chip with Radeon 8060S integrated graphics is upwards of 68.1% faster than a laptop RTX 4070, which is currently our pick for the best graphics card for laptops.

You can see the results below. AMD tested the Radeon 8060S in a variety of games at 1080p with the High graphics preset. In most games, the margins are tight. However, you can see some significant leads for AMD in titles like Cyberpunk 2077, Baulder’s Gate 3, Hitman 3, and especially Borderlands 3, where that 68.1% increase comes from, as highlighted by Notebookcheck.

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Of course AMD would be concentrating on their integrated graphics solutions, but holy cow.  This should be great news for laptop users!

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That will/would be impressive. I am not sure I can believe that until I actually see it in the hands of an actual end user or some unbiased third-party reviews. I did not read the entire article. Hopefully it is not something only for turdbook processors. The results on unreleased products that we have seen published by AMD, NVIDIA and Intel are always suspect. I hope it is accurate.

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  On 02/02/2025 at 22:29, Mr. Fox said:

That will/would be impressive. I am not sure I can believe that until I actually see it in the hands of an actual end user or some unbiased third-party reviews. I did not read the entire article. Hopefully it is not something only for turdbook processors. The results on unreleased products that we have seen published by AMD, NVIDIA and Intel are always suspect. I hope it is accurate.

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Strix Halo is laptop CPUs, but I don't see why the integrated graphics wouldn't make its way into Zen 5 desktop APU's.

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  On 03/02/2025 at 01:55, Sir Beregond said:

Strix Halo is laptop CPUs, but I don't see why the integrated graphics wouldn't make its way into Zen 5 desktop APU's.

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That would be nice and appropriate. I stopped reading as soon as I saw it was for laptop CPUs. Zero interest in turdbooks. The iGPU in the 9950X isn't really suitable for anything other than the most basic display output. Very poor 3D rendering and weaker than the lame Intel iGPU in the 13900KS/14900KS.

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  On 03/02/2025 at 04:48, Mr. Fox said:

That would be nice and appropriate. I stopped reading as soon as I saw it was for laptop CPUs. Zero interest in turdbooks. The iGPU in the 9950X isn't really suitable for anything other than the most basic display output. Very poor 3D rendering and weaker than the lame Intel iGPU in the 13900KS/14900KS.

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i agree my 13900k igp is horrendous. Can't even play ugly Fortnite on low decently and that with 7000mhz ram 

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  On 03/02/2025 at 04:48, Mr. Fox said:

That would be nice and appropriate. I stopped reading as soon as I saw it was for laptop CPUs. Zero interest in turdbooks. The iGPU in the 9950X isn't really suitable for anything other than the most basic display output. Very poor 3D rendering and weaker than the lame Intel iGPU in the 13900KS/14900KS.

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Yeah from what I recall that was by design starting with Zen 4. The Zen 3 Vermeer chips (like what I have - 5600X, 5900X, etc.) did not have an iGPU at all. With Zen 4 they started including it, but It wasn't meant to be much more than a basic display out. 

 

If Strix Halo integrated graphics are indeed that good...would love to see that also end up in the Zen 5 APU lineup. Would be a good way to do a budget gaming PC in this day and age.

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  On 03/02/2025 at 04:48, Mr. Fox said:

That would be nice and appropriate. I stopped reading as soon as I saw it was for laptop CPUs. Zero interest in turdbooks. The iGPU in the 9950X isn't really suitable for anything other than the most basic display output. Very poor 3D rendering and weaker than the lame Intel iGPU in the 13900KS/14900KS.

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To be fair, there's something a lot of us enthusiasts tend to forget about.  That "basic display output" is more than plenty enough to play MILLIONS of gaming titles out there.  The fact that integrated graphics in 2025 even CAN play a video game at all (at 720p / low settings) is absolutely freaking AMAZING.  Or are we forgetting the days of Intel graphics, SiS integrated, and things like the GT 210 or X1300 cards for example.  The cards that really couldn't play games at all (even older games) at 640x480.  I'm working on tri crossfire HD3450's right now actually.  I assure you, you guys don't want to go back to the days of older basic graphics adapters and integrated solutions.  This HD4200 is an absolute joke, honestly doesn't even really handle 1080p video playback.  🤣

The fact that modern integrated cards CAN play gaming titles at all is a huge leap forward from where things used to be.  Making that integrated graphics better, is only a good thing in my opinion.  Yeah its for "turdbooks", sure.  Most of your kids these days though, the next generation of enthusiasts, are on "turdbooks" though.  That's something we as adults and life long enthusiasts tend to forget about too.

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  On 05/02/2025 at 01:29, pio said:

To be fair, there's something a lot of us enthusiasts tend to forget about.  That "basic display output" is more than plenty enough to play MILLIONS of gaming titles out there.  The fact that integrated graphics in 2025 even CAN play a video game at all (at 720p / low settings) is absolutely freaking AMAZING.  Or are we forgetting the days of Intel graphics, SiS integrated, and things like the GT 210 or X1300 cards for example.  The cards that really couldn't play games at all (even older games) at 640x480.  I'm working on tri crossfire HD3450's right now actually.  I assure you, you guys don't want to go back to the days of older basic graphics adapters and integrated solutions.  This HD4200 is an absolute joke, honestly doesn't even really handle 1080p video playback.  🤣

The fact that modern integrated cards CAN play gaming titles at all is a huge leap forward from where things used to be.  Making that integrated graphics better, is only a good thing in my opinion.  Yeah its for "turdbooks", sure.  Most of your kids these days though, the next generation of enthusiasts, are on "turdbooks" though.  That's something we as adults and life long enthusiasts tend to forget about too.

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Not sure about turd books but I have a very recent Thinkpad, T14 with a AMD 7840U processor. GPU (embedded graphics) is RDNA 3 (780m). 

 

This laptop essentially has a GPU faster than a discreet flagship GPU I purchased  10 years ago for ~$700 (GTX 780) at 1/10 the power consumption.

 

Obviously I am not playing Alan Wake 2 on this thing but most traditional AAA 3D game released prior this gen run fine on it and it crushes the typical indies you’d play on a laptop.

 

If they’re about to hit 70% faster than a mobile RTX 4070 performance (desktop RTX 3060) in an iGPU just a couple years later (when compared to my laptop) is insane. That’d be desktop RTX 3070 Ti level performance. Honestly, I remain skeptical with that level of jump but who knows. 

 

And yes, while my history with PC hardware isn’t as coloured as the vets here, iGPUs were always trash in days past. Usually a waste of silicon, especially in desktop environments. Unless you needed some basic display out for the BIOS for a system in a server room, you typically avoided at all cost.

 

P.S. What are you doing with a tri HD3450 setup? That sounds absolutely absurd in the year 2025 XD

 

 

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  On 05/02/2025 at 02:41, Slaughtahouse said:

P.S. What are you doing with a tri HD3450 setup? That sounds absolutely absurd in the year 2025 XD

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Everything else you said is spot on, I have nothing further to add or comment to on those points.  This though.....because I scored a super rare Socket 939 motherboard with a 785G chipset from AM2+ on it with the onboard HD4200 that does hybrid crossfire.  I also scored a dual HD 3450 card (ebay recommended it to me) for like 9 bucks.

I was curious if I could get tri CFX to work with the onboard.  Turns out at least so far, the answer is yes it works kinda?  We've bashed it against the wall enough times it now has crossfire enabled across the onboard and the second core on the GPU.  Not sure why, still trying to figure it out, possibly wrong driver.  If onboard is disabled though, the dual HD 3450 card enables crossfire on its own absolutely no problem (even though nobody answered this directly decades ago).  These really old ATI cards definitely had driver issues (after retirement for sure, AMD killed their performance with last release drivers).

I do also have a real HD 3470 card that I can try and pair with the dual GPU card at a later date in a real crossfire supported setup if I want to continue trying with actual cards and not the onboard.  Again, its more just because though.  Lots of people asked these questions, and nobody ever actually tried and figured it out.  The answer on these questions is, "its not worth it for the performance".  I'm curious if its possible, and that answer was never actually found when these cards were new.

Otherwise, it was just because of that motherboard find though.  Wanted to build it into a working HTPC box instead of using a Roku, just because it was more fun to look at, and its got SUPER rare components in it in 2025.

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