Old HWBot warhorses makeover - fixing bent pins and other past sins

[J7SC_Orion]

Them feels when J7SCs retro machine giggles at my main PC hehehehehe

 

though, in light of recent happenings, I grimaced when I saw the lack of backplates on those 980 Classys.. I can't believe they didn't include backplates on such a high end beast. Ergh!

 

 

...just don't ship them via the postal service and you'll be fine ...but seriously, I won't buy EVGA anymore ...their design and software is second to none, but repeated PCB quality issues

 

 

[J7SC_Orion]

FYI, another 'retro & maintenance' build posted > here...

[J7SC_Orion]

...using the long weekend here to rewire and expand the CAT7 based network in my home office to accommodate the 'new old - old new' HWbot machines referenced in this thread.

 

That includes the additional update (Z170 SOC Force / 6700K ES) linked in the post directly above. In turn, it freed up two nice non-RGB 120mm fans to 'fix' the look (@486 ) on the RvE / 5960X revitalized setup - which is now the daily driver / beast of burden for lower-rez (1080p) and sits right next to me...was hard to ignore the previous RGB 'show & clash'

 

Before...

 

 

 

After...

 

Edited August 3, 2020 by J7SC_Orion

[486]

Let it be known that men who know how to properly cool their vrm/memory/chipset using the above method will increase their dating potential by approximately 60000%

 

I've been using this method myself (also using black chassis + white fan blades, you sly devil) for a while now, had to start deadbolting my computer room to keep the crazed idols away.

 

 

looks really nice

[ENTERPRISE]

Sweet !

[J7SC_Orion]

Thanks guys ...put RVE /5960X through its paces today after bumping FSB to 126 (DDR4 3360) and passing all stress tests...tried some 1080p Unigine Valley & Heaven, and played 'Need for Speed: Most Wanted' for the first time in a long time...wrecked four Bugatti Veyron Supersports, but you should see the 'revenue agents' rides ...That got me in the mood to dig around the CD/DVD games library from yesteryear - which in turn required the installation of a DVD drive - hadn't installed one of those in a while.

 

Speaking of 3D, looking so forward to Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2020....releasing in two weeks ! That's going onto the 4K (TR/Turing) setup though. @ENTERPRISE Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2020 could make a nice 3D game/sim/best HW thread ?

 

 

Edited August 5, 2020 by J7SC_Orion

[ENTERPRISE]

Thanks guys ...put RVE /5960X through its paces today after bumping FSB to 126 (DDR4 3360) and passing all stress tests...tried some 1080p Unigine Valley & Heaven, and played 'Need for Speed: Most Wanted' for the first time in a long time...wrecked four Bugatti Veyron Supersports, but you should see the 'revenue agents' rides ...That got me in the mood to dig around the CD/DVD games library from yesteryear - which in turn required the installation of a DVD drive - hadn't installed one of those in a while.

 

Speaking of 3D, looking so forward to Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2020....releasing in two weeks ! That's going onto the 4K (TR/Turing) setup though. @ENTERPRISE Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2020 could make a nice 3D game/sim/best HW thread ?

 

 

I need to get MS Flight Simulator 2020, would like to give that a go, I think at would be a great idea @J7SC_Orion , fancy heading that thread up ?

[J7SC_Orion]

 

I need to get MS Flight Simulator 2020, would like to give that a go, I think at would be a great idea @J7SC_Orion , fancy heading that thread up ?

 

 

I will certainly give it a try - after a few rounds of crashing a few planes (my usual M.O. to learn flight sims...). I'm also looking forward to find out how MS Flight Simulator 2020 will do with SLI/NVLink, perhaps even with CFR ? ...8704 Turing Cuda cores are begging to find out. Also, the recent MS / Win 10 update introduced 'Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling', with AMD and NVidia updating their drivers for that. So far, nothing to write home about re. FPS impacts, but next-gen MS games might utilize it more ?!?

 

 

Edited August 6, 2020 by J7SC_Orion

[486]

Psh, flight sim 2020 flight schmim. You're a retro junkie now.

 

Where I come from, we play Wing Commander. !!!!

 

Hehehe

 

M DISCS are supposed to last 1000 years, be sure to burn your memoirs and bury it for some future person to find, include plenty of pictures of our modern stone age computers (and a plain text explanation to read the data in your picture format of choice ((and a hard copy explaining binary to ascii encoding)) in case of nuclear war)

[Laithan]

Psh, flight sim 2020 flight schmim. You're a retro junkie now.

 

Where I come from, we play Wing Commander. !!!!

 

Hehehe

 

M DISCS are supposed to last 1000 years, be sure to burn your memoirs and bury it for some future person to find, include plenty of pictures of our modern stone age computers (and a plain text explanation to read the data in your picture format of choice ((and a hard copy explaining binary to ascii encoding)) in case of nuclear war)

 

 

Wing Commander... oh those were the days! :yessir:

 

 

[J7SC_Orion]

...sure, if you like your planes pixelated - hehe

 

then..

 

 

now

 

 

 

...truth be told though, I do also like the oldies like Wing Commander and Terminal Velocity. But progress is progress !

 

[486]

Man wouldn't it be awesome to have your own personal cockpit, .. @iamjanco would be perfect for designing and building such a thing, LCDs for the windshields as well as cockpit displays.. just think of all the knobs and switches and use cases for gigantic shunt resistors.

 

I'd become a professional digital pilot in no time if I could play in such a thing

[J7SC_Orion]

Man wouldn't it be awesome to have your own personal cockpit, .. @iamjanco would be perfect for designing and building such a thing, LCDs for the windshields as well as cockpit displays.. just think of all the knobs and switches and use cases for gigantic shunt resistors.

 

I'd become a professional digital pilot in no time if I could play in such a thing

 

 

...you can start with these cockpits (Airbus A380, Boeing 747-8)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[486]

Wow that flight sim 2020 video is just mind bending lol.... I still play IL-2 Sturmovik as kind of my go to "flight sim"... time for an upgrade...

[J7SC_Orion]

Wow that flight sim 2020 video is just mind bending lol.... I still play IL-2 Sturmovik as kind of my go to "flight sim"... time for an upgrade...

 

 

...I have IL-2 Sturmovik, good stuff, that. I think they were a bit ahead in the sound department re. engines / superchargers...goosebumps ! Apart from this and 'X-Plane', I also still have and play Aoerofly FS (below) - great flight sim...and there's now a newer version as well (Steam). It has great graphics and fairly accurate flight AI, but you can also set it to 'crazy', i.e. zipping around the Alps in a Swiss F18...up (and down) the Eiger North Face on full afterburner

 

...It's even loaded on the 5960X re-build project above, and it even works great on SLI

 

 

 

 

[ENTERPRISE]

I need to go searching for MS Flight Simulator 2020 benchmark results, just to see how much is gives a system a run for its money. Just looking at it and the recommended requirements lead me to believe it is fairly heavy.

[J7SC_Orion]

I need to go searching for MS Flight Simulator 2020 benchmark results, just to see how much is gives a system a run for its money. Just looking at it and the recommended requirements lead me to believe it is fairly heavy.

 

 

...on the GPU side, they're suggesting min requirements as an AMD RX570 or NVidia 770. I think a 2200+MHz 2080 Ti should be ok for a while (2x/NVLink support would be even better). I am a bit conspiratorial though re. the release dates of MS 2020 Flight Sim and new top-level cards by NVidia and AMD...

 

...per below, I've been busy honing my flying skills any chance I get

 

 

[J7SC_Orion]

With all this oldish hardware finding new life in the retro-builds, a comparison of performance of different CPU generations and models might be useful (even with some newish CPUs thrown in)...here is a table for multi-core and single-core performance in Cinebench R20 - perhaps it can be helpful for your upgrade-vs-update decisions...

 

 

[Steven]

stock 10700K for reference.

 

[J7SC_Orion]

stock 10700K for reference.

 

 

 

Nice...and just to confirm for 3rd party reference purposes, the 10700k is the 'equivalent / successor' to the 9900K/KS, albeit on LG1200 and with slight IPC and security changes.

 

 

[Steven]

 

 

Nice...and just to confirm for 3rd party reference purposes, the 10700k is the 'equivalent / successor' to the 9900K/KS, albeit on LG1200 and with slight IPC and security changes.

 

 

yeah it's a 8 core, 16 thread part and quite equivalent to a 9900K.

[486]

Look at that old 4790k warhorse still holding it's own in single core.. Wanted to hang on to mine but needed to sell it for my newer rig

 

I also didn't realize how far ahead haswell/devils canyon pulled ahead of the 3770k.. assuming that single core score was done at 4.7ghz on the 3770

[J7SC_Orion]

Look at that old 4790k warhorse still holding it's own in single core.. Wanted to hang on to mine but needed to sell it for my newer rig

 

I also didn't realize how far ahead haswell/devils canyon pulled ahead of the 3770k.. assuming that single core score was done at 4.7ghz on the 3770

 

 

...yeah, those 4790Ks ran hot, but had a big IPC step-up :-) ...and yes, the 3770K single core depicted in the table was done at 4.7 (5.2 multi-c was added later).

 

For further gen comparison, here's a 3770 (non-K!) @ 4.35GHz with multi-core and single-core Cinebench R20 results, confirming the step up between its gen and 4790K gen :