[Apple] Apple iPhone 12

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[UltraMega]

Is there anything note worthy here or is it just slightly faster, more pixels, same old same old... Anything to discuss here beyond the standard generation to generation improvements? 

[Huzzug]

When did generation to generation improvements become not news worthy? 

[Mistio]

I see no incentive to upgrade from my 512 GB XS Max. 

 

[UltraMega]

1 hour ago, Huzzug said:

When did generation to generation improvements become not news worthy? 

It's news worthy, but is there anything note worthy that we wouldn't already expect? Generational phone improvements have gotten to be pretty insignificant so I'm asking if there is anything that stands out about the 12? 

[rares495]

47 minutes ago, UltraMega said:

It's news worthy, but is there anything note worthy that we wouldn't already expect? Generational phone improvements have gotten to be pretty insignificant so I'm asking if there is anything that stands out about the 12? 

 

I like the new design and the fact that the less expensive iPhone now has an AMOLED display with a much greater resolution. Plus 5G will be pretty cool eventually I guess...

Edited October 15, 2020 by rares495

[Andrew]

5 hours ago, UltraMega said:

Is there anything note worthy here or is it just slightly faster, more pixels, same old same old... Anything to discuss here beyond the standard generation to generation improvements? 

New smaller model, all of them have OLED screens now, all of them have a higher screen to body ratio, the magsafe wireless charger to get optimum wireless charging, even the cheaper model has 5G, the Pro models have LiDAR, the Pro Max model has sensor stabilisation instead of lens stabilisation and the A14 CPU is meant to be more powerful than any CPU available in any of the current MacBook Pros.

 

On the surface, it doesn't look like much has changed, but quite a bit has. Apple have been doing "tick tock" updates with their phones since the 3G.

 

3GS is the 3G with slight improvements. 4 was entirely new, 4S is the 4 with slight improvements. 5 was entirely new, 6S was the 5 with slight improvements. 6 was entirely new, 6S was the 6 with slight improvements. 7 was entirely new, 8 was the 7 with slight improvements. XR was entirely new, 11 was the XR with slight improvements. 12 is entirely new, 12S/13 or whatever naming scheme they go for is probably going to be the 12 with slight improvements.

[KyadCK]

5 hours ago, Andrew said:

New smaller model, all of them have OLED screens now, all of them have a higher screen to body ratio, the magsafe wireless charger to get optimum wireless charging, even the cheaper model has 5G, the Pro models have LiDAR, the Pro Max model has sensor stabilisation instead of lens stabilisation and the A14 CPU is meant to be more powerful than any CPU available in any of the current MacBook Pros.

 

On the surface, it doesn't look like much has changed, but quite a bit has. Apple have been doing "tick tock" updates with their phones since the 3G.

 

3GS is the 3G with slight improvements. 4 was entirely new, 4S is the 4 with slight improvements. 5 was entirely new, 6S was the 5 with slight improvements. 6 was entirely new, 6S was the 6 with slight improvements. 7 was entirely new, 8 was the 7 with slight improvements. XR was entirely new, 11 was the XR with slight improvements. 12 is entirely new, 12S/13 or whatever naming scheme they go for is probably going to be the 12 with slight improvements.

 

Heck of a claim saying their 2+4 CPU is going to be faster than a 2.4Ghz+ 8c/16t, but I guess that's what an asterisk and fine print are for.

 

I guess we'll find out when it's actually available in a product that can be benchmarked more easily than a phone, but makers of ARM CPUs have been trying (and failing abysmally) to claim the performance crown from x86 for a while. Is it really winning when you intentionally handicap your competition so heavily?

 

That said it makes perfect sense for Apple to unify their hardware given their walled garden. There is a lot to say about efficiency of code when you're writing for one platform, and the ability to include dedicated accelerators when you are not at the whims of anyone else.

[Andrew]

58 minutes ago, KyadCK said:

 

Heck of a claim saying their 2+4 CPU is going to be faster than a 2.4Ghz+ 8c/16t, but I guess that's what an asterisk and fine print are for.

 

I guess we'll find out when it's actually available in a product that can be benchmarked more easily than a phone, but makers of ARM CPUs have been trying (and failing abysmally) to claim the performance crown from x86 for a while. Is it really winning when you intentionally handicap your competition so heavily?

 

That said it makes perfect sense for Apple to unify their hardware given their walled garden. There is a lot to say about efficiency of code when you're writing for one platform, and the ability to include dedicated accelerators when you are not at the whims of anyone else.

Apple have the added advantage of everything being in-house now. They can make the software optimized a lot better than Windows/Android ever could. A bit like how you have consoles that have really weak hardware but PC standards but they're still able to push games like RDR2 at 4K 30fps.

 

We will just have to wait and see if those performance claims are true.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Andrew