hardwaretimes Latest GPU Market Sales Indicate that NVIDIA Indeed Halted RTX 30 Series Production

[ENTERPRISE]

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Earlier this month, it was reported that NVIDIA would be halting (or reducing) the production of its Ampere graphics cards to prevent a sudden price recession in the market. Well, fifteen days have passed since that post was published and it looks like MLID’s sources were on point. NVIDIA’s RTX 30 series cards, most notably the higher-end RTX 3080 and 3090 have pretty much disappeared from most online retailers.

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[schuck6566]

Because,we wouldn't want the supply to start approaching the demand again,that would kill our scalping err profits....

[UltraMega]

Doesn't Nvidia sell them at MSRP? How would this help Nvidia? 

 

After reading through the article and the article that is the source for it, it definitely sounds like something Nvidia would do but it doesn't make sense to me that Nvidia would need to artificially keep prices high and supply low now when that's already the case. 

 

The GPU price crash that happened before that the articles keep saying Nvidia is worried about happened because of a big drop in Bitcoin value at the time. I don't think anyone is expecting that to happen again now.

 

While this kind of behavior seems like the kind of thing Nvidia wouldn't think twice about, this seems pretty speculative and I'm skeptical that Nvidia really is price fixing when the price is already so high while they have an EU anti trust investigation looking to block their purchase of ARM. I'd think Nvidia would be smart enough to be on it's best behavior. 

 

I can't find any other news sources for this and following the sources in the articles eventually leads to a YouTube channel. 

Edited October 31, 2021 by UltraMega

[schuck6566]

27 minutes ago, UltraMega said:

Doesn't Nvidia sell them at MSRP? How would this help Nvidia? 

Because they only have the cards on 1 site where they are ALWAYS sold out, so the gpu's that would be going to companies like ASUS,MSI,EVGA,Gigabyte,just to name a few for WHO knows what price won't even be available now.(I'm sure they don't sell to the 3rd party vendors at cost....) This way when the NEW cards come out,there will still be a demand because people weren't able to fill their backlog from last year,thus allowing Nvidia to set the MSRP even higher on the new cards like AMD did. 

Nvidia No Longer Selling RTX 3080, 3090 Founders Edition Directly From Its Store

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Founders Edition models are instead being sold via Best Buy in the US now, with no designated seller in Europe.

 

Edited October 31, 2021 by schuck6566
added link to story about nvidia nolonger selling cards from their site but from bestbuy

[UltraMega]

50 minutes ago, schuck6566 said:

Because they only have the cards on 1 site where they are ALWAYS sold out, so the gpu's that would be going to companies like ASUS,MSI,EVGA,Gigabyte,just to name a few for WHO knows what price won't even be available now.(I'm sure they don't sell to the 3rd party vendors at cost....) This way when the NEW cards come out,there will still be a demand because people weren't able to fill their backlog from last year,thus allowing Nvidia to set the MSRP even higher on the new cards like AMD did.

I don't think Nvidia needs an excuse to sell their next cards for more given how things are going. If they want to increase the price, they can just do that. With chip shortage and manufacturing setbacks, a lot of other companies have increased their prices. 

 

If it's true that a super refresh is right around the corner, I'd guess they are just gearing up to switch production over to that. 

 

If their worried about people buying the 3000 cards used from miners later on... Idk how they could really hope to prevent that. No matter what their next card are, it seems safe to assume they will be faster and better for mining therefore mines will upgrade to them and sell their older GPUs. If the newer cards are even more expensive, that will just make people want to buy older cards even more. 

 

 

Assuming it's true that Nvidia halted production of the high end GPUs, the reasons this article comes up with are 100% speculative, though definitely believable for Nvidia. 

 

Edit: the article you added is just about Nvidia's website being ineffective at slowing down bots so they stopped selling the more valuable cards on their site since it seems all the card Nvidia.com sold went straight to scalpers.

Edited October 31, 2021 by UltraMega

[Diffident]

So the proof they are claiming is that cards are sold out.  Hasn't that been the case since day one?  Best Buy just had a big drop 2 days ago.

[UltraMega]

48 minutes ago, Diffident said:

So the proof they are claiming is that cards are sold out.  Hasn't that been the case since day one?  Best Buy just had a big drop 2 days ago.

Not quite, they are claiming a few "inside sources" have confirmed that Nvidia stopped manufacturing the 3080 and 3090, but the article also points out that Nvidia is probably launching a "super" refresh soon so why they would speculate that Nvidia is trying to rig the market to prevent the sale of used GPU instead of just switching over to manufacturing the refresh instead is a mystery to me. 

 

It seems contradictory that Nvidia would try to prevent the sale of used GPUs by creating a situation that would make their next GPUs even more expensive, thus just making used GPUs a more viable option. 

 

 

IMO the real news here is that Nvidia is probably doing a refresh soon. 

Edited October 31, 2021 by UltraMega

[Sir Beregond]

On 31/10/2021 at 10:04, UltraMega said:

Doesn't Nvidia sell them at MSRP? How would this help Nvidia? 

 

That's too narrow a thought. Take Founder's Editions cards out of the equation as "direct sales". You telling me Nvidia is not raking in profits from AIB cards too? Also let's be honest, the going street prices for hard to get cards enabled Nvidia to raise their MSRP of the 3080 Ti at launch from the rumored $999 to $1199. All in all any of this works out in their favor.

Edited November 2, 2021 by Sir Beregond