Early experiences with the RTX 4090: Jekyll & Hyde

[J7SC_Orion]

I recently added a Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 4090 and here are some early conclusions, details and pics... 

 

1. "Jekyll & Hyde" - at normal gaming, the 4090 is quiet and bombastically fast while also being more efficient than my 3090 Strix. At full bore, it is in a completely different league of anything else (so far...), and while the behemoth air cooler works well for most circumstances, it needs (and will get) a custom water block for the 'final 100 W' (beyond 500W to 600W). On air, I simply cannot run full-bore for extended periods due to hotspot temps...VRAM temps are great though with this model.

 

2. As much fun as it is, if you game at 1440p and have a nice 3080 / Ti or 3090 / Ti, you probably won't '''need''' a 4090...but I game on a 48 inch 4K 120 OLED, and this card makes that well worth it. Unlike the 3090 where DX12 was generally better than with Vulkan, the 4090 seems to like Vulkan a lot. This is also the only card I know of which might be CPU-bound at 4K, unless you are running the absolute latest CPU and mobo from AMD or Intel.  It will make you want to upgrade everything  - the (in)famous slippery slope attached to a new hardware purchase...

 

3. DLSS3 is jaw-dropping in its apparent visual improvements, even beyond the massive rasterization increase of the RTX 4090. DLSS3 is supposed to be RTX4K only, though there may be some partial driver hacks for other older models out there. Still, the RTX 4090 also has some specific DLSS3 cores and other unique hardware....speaking of hardware:

 

4.  The RTX 4090 is referenced as a 4 nm node, with 76.3 billion transistors, a 608 sq mm die and a 72 MB Cache - the RTX 3090 is on a 8 nm node, with 28.3 billion transistors, a 628 sq mm die and 6 MB of cache. Clearly, heat management re. hotspot is a priority with such concentrated power.

 

5.  The Gigabyte Gaming OC was US$ 1,619 ($20 more than 4090 entry at time of writing) and it seems to be very good quality, apart from it being a good sample (below). With the economy shifting gears, as well as inflation, supply chain and many other serious issues, this is a purchase to be carefully thought about. In my case, I can recycle most equipment into a software-related business, so the old soldiers march on - but still, the cost-benefit of such a purchase has to be taken into account.

 

Of course, the 4090 is just the first salvo in this latest GPU war; AMD's RDNA3 is likely to be competitive with at least the upcoming 4080 (16 GB) and who knows, with its new mChiplet approach and patented infinity-fabric-type connections (appearing as a single GPU), AMD might yet spring a (really) big surprise, may be a bit later. Then there is the upcoming 4090 Ti. With the increasingly tentative economy, inflation nibbling on general budgets and many other geo-political uncertainties, it might even be that even crazier releases by either AMD or NVidia (+ Intel ?) will follow at a quicker pace and competitive pricing as the PC market has already slowed significantly... 

 

For my current purposes though, the sheer 4K 120 speed and DLSS3 on top of that made this a no-brainer at the entry-level pricing (and local availability). The actual sample and its additional oc headroom (on air, stock 2x vbios, 600 W max) turned out to be the icing on the cake that both Jekyll & Hyde can enjoy... 

 

Big, bigger, behemoth-big...

 

 

 

One custom water-block, please...

...even on air, this card never drops below 3 GHz in benches, and with light loads, it can reach up to 3.2 GHz...but with heavy loads and > than 500 W out of a possible 600 W, hotspot temps spoil the party.

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[Sir Beregond]

I just can't bring myself to think spending $1600 for a gaming graphics card makes sense, and despite rebrands to now a "90" class, to me these are no different then what a 1080 Ti or 2080 Ti were to their respective generations and product stacks for much cheaper. The cost of the cards are not explained by only increased wafer costs or inflation when we see Nvidia is making more money then they ever have with bigger margins then ever. Something doesn't track with that narrative.

 

I'm also highly concerned about 500W or more going through a single part when my 350W 3080 Ti already acts like such a space heater during a gaming session. That said, despite the larger overall power draw vs the 3090, the improvements in the 4nm (refined TSMC 5nm) is clear. Samsung 8nm was just a refined 10nm which made it quite ancient by comparison. That said, just that transistor density increase is crazy! I will be curious to see how the increase in L2 cache looks for the 4080 and 4070 in the future with their 256-bit and 192-bit buses.

 

All that said, can't argue with the impressive results and this is clearly the card for 4k120. I am also on a 48" C1 OLED, and when I honestly sit down and think about it, it takes me forever to get around to playing modern games. I am only now playing Control and have yet to ever fire up CP2077. At this point, I am content with what I have and will look forward to seeing what a future 50-series or RDNA4 (or whatever it ends up being) and seeing what the card that can do 4k120 in those product stack looks like in cost and power. Hopefully both will be much lower.

 

I do really look forward to what you can do with this puppy under water though!

Edited October 25, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[J7SC_Orion]

1 hour ago, Sir Beregond said:

I just can't bring myself to think spending $1600 for a gaming graphics card makes sense, and despite rebrands to now a "90" class, to me these are no different then what a 1080 Ti or 2080 Ti were to their respective generations and product stacks for much cheaper. The cost of the cards are not explained by only increased wafer costs or inflation when we see Nvidia is making more money then they ever have with bigger margins then ever. Something doesn't track with that narrative.

 

I'm also highly concerned about 500W or more going through a single part when my 350W 3080 Ti already acts like such a space heater during a gaming session. That said, despite the larger overall power draw vs the 3090, the improvements in the 4nm (refined TSMC 5nm) is clear. Samsung 8nm was just a refined 10nm which made it quite ancient by comparison. That said, just that transistor density increase is crazy! I will be curious to see how the increase in L2 cache looks for the 4080 and 4070 in the future with their 256-bit and 192-bit buses.

 

All that said, can't argue with the impressive results and this is clearly the card for 4k120. I am also on a 48" C1 OLED, and when I honestly sit down and think about it, it takes me forever to get around to playing modern games. I am only now playing Control and have yet to ever fire up CP2077. At this point, I am content with what I have and will look forward to seeing what a future 50-series or RDNA4 (or whatever it ends up being) and seeing what the card that can do 4k120 in those product stack looks like in cost and power. Hopefully both will be much lower.

 

I do really look forward to what you can do with this puppy under water though!

 

On the pricing, I reiterate that it requires a cost-benefit analysis each person / business has to do on their own because it is not cheap - then again, the pricing here is actually competitive (a bit lower even) than many custom 3090s were at launch before the crazy price bulge due to mining, the pandemic-stay-at-home syndrome, scalpers and other factors.

 

Still, this new class of GPUs is in a performance segment all on its own (until AMD joins, and NVidia follows up with other RTX4ks). For the top games and sims I play, the 4090 fills in what the fast 3090 couldn't re. 4K 120 OLED. I am also intrigued by the particular model I got (Gigabyte Gaming OC). It's relatively low pricing (as opposed to for example the 4090 Strix, $400 more) belies its performance. In any case, there are several indications that this was originally meant as an Aorus model (including some bits of the accompanying documentation). Perhaps Gigabyte read the market conditions and quickly rebranded and repriced, though I don't know for sure.

 

In more general terms, in spite of the valiant efforts to produce air-cooled models by various vendors (3.5 to 4 slot cards, unless AIO), these things need full water custom cooling bocks to get anywhere near their full potential. The 600 W max actually doesn't bother me (as much as it is more like 375 W - 400 W in gaming) since the 3090 Strix already sucked back > 520 W max, and all the custom loops I build are configured to handle a sustained 1200 W (ie. HEDT, 2x GPUs).

 

 

Edited October 25, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[pio]

Nice that you're enjoying your new toy!  Its certainly not my cup of tea for $1600, I play mostly racing games.  For $1600, I'll just go buy a whole car..... 

 

That said, not going to lie, I want one.  Unfortunately due to my projects decisions, I'll have to wait for AMD's counter offer and see what that entails.  I still don't think I'll be spending $1600 though, even the $900 I paid for my 6900XT was a huge stretch considering my last "high end" card was $300.  If pricing was more like it used to be, where anybody that wanted one could afford to buy one.....I'd probably be more inclined to have a wider variety of cards.  Would love to have one of every Nvidia high end cards too.  Sigh. -_-

So question:
How do you think this generation of GPU's would handle 5120x1440 @ 120Hz?  (On current generation titles of course.)  There's been several titles that still frustrate me with my 6900XT.  Cyberpunk, Crysis Remastered, RDR2, even my favorite Beamng.drive can't run FULLY maxed.  I feel like for that kind of money, we should be capable of maxing out games.

[J7SC_Orion]

19 minutes ago, pioneerisloud said:

Nice that you're enjoying your new toy!  Its certainly not my cup of tea for $1600, I play mostly racing games.  For $1600, I'll just go buy a whole car..... 

 

That said, not going to lie, I want one.  Unfortunately due to my projects decisions, I'll have to wait for AMD's counter offer and see what that entails.  I still don't think I'll be spending $1600 though, even the $900 I paid for my 6900XT was a huge stretch considering my last "high end" card was $300.  If pricing was more like it used to be, where anybody that wanted one could afford to buy one.....I'd probably be more inclined to have a wider variety of cards.  Would love to have one of every Nvidia high end cards too.  Sigh. -_-

So question:
How do you think this generation of GPU's would handle 5120x1440 @ 120Hz?  (On current generation titles of course.)  There's been several titles that still frustrate me with my 6900XT.  Cyberpunk, Crysis Remastered, RDR2, even my favorite Beamng.drive can't run FULLY maxed.  I feel like for that kind of money, we should be capable of maxing out games.

  

 

I really wouldn't know much about 1440p as I game exclusively at 4K. However, 3DM Port Royal is 1440p and I have run that - RTX 4090 is basically double that of a well-running RTX 3090...

[pio]

1 hour ago, J7SC_Orion said:

  

 

I really wouldn't know much about 1440p as I game exclusively at 4K. However, 3DM Port Royal is 1440p and I have run that - RTX 4090 is basically double that of a well-running RTX 3090...

Well, I'm at I think 7.3m pixels and you're at 8.2m pixels.  So 4k resolution would be the closest standard 16:9 to my own.  I'm not standard 1440p, its doubled being Ultrawide.  Whatever you get at 4k resolution, I should expect ever so slightly better performance (slightly) at my own native resolution.

Edited October 25, 2022 by pioneerisloud

[J7SC_Orion]

3 minutes ago, pioneerisloud said:

Well, I'm at I think 7.3m pixels and you're at 8.2m pixels.  So 4k resolution would be the closest standard 16:9 to my own.  I'm not standard 1440p, its doubled being Ultrawide.  Whatever you get at 4k resolution, I should expect ever so slightly better performance (slightly) at my own native resolution.

 

...in that case, a 4090 (or AMD Navi3) is calling to you  

 

 ...also, they can serve as heaters for the coming winter...no joke, I actually utilized 2x 2080 Ti (combined 760W) to heat a big room when the heat went off during - 10 C last winter...

[Sir Beregond]

12 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...in that case, a 4090 (or AMD Navi3) is calling to you  

 

 ...also, they can serve as heaters for the coming winter...no joke, I actually utilized 2x 2080 Ti (combined 760W) to heat a big room when the heat went off during - 10 C last winter...

I believe that! This 3080 Ti hooked up to these radiators really throws the heat into the room under load. I've never had cards like that before. GTX 980 using a more mid-range die never generated that sort of heat. I don't even think my old GTX 570 was that bad and it came from the era of "Nvidia Thermi" jokes! We need to bring that back... 

 

 

But seriously, I won't lie, I want one too. But am I willing to spend $1600 for it?

 

[bonami2]

Oled c1 48 are now 1000$ cad time for surround

[J7SC_Orion]

13 minutes ago, bonami2 said:

Oled c1 48 are now 1000$ cad time for surround

 

That's around Canadian $ 1,300...by coincidence, I was at a chain store yesterday to pick up s.th. else (Starbucks and Kicking Horse coffee on sale for Can$ 9.99 instead of Can$ 14.99) and 'just happened to pass by' their electronics department. Apart from the C1 48, they also had the C1 55 on sale for Can$ 1,500...our tv in the m-bedroom is a LG 55 IPS HDR but getting on in years (~4.5)...thinking...thinking...better make strong coffee first, though 

[ENTERPRISE]

Nice coverage of the 4090 bud. Glad it is working out for you

 

They are super cards for sure. I personally have decided to hang on to my 3090 for now. Realistically the 4090 doesn't offer me anything that my 3090 cannot do. I used to have a habit of climbing the ladder every time a new GPU was out, more than when a new CPU came out but over the years I have realised that for the cost, there is little return on that investment. That being said I have locked myself in on my current build until I move up to AM5, so if I consider a GPU upgrade it will be then. 

 

The other thing that put me off this gen....that power connector man. As far as I am concerned it is fairly shoddy design and im hoping that next gen they have a sensible revision. Nvidia really did not spend enough time on it. 

[Sir Beregond]

3 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Nice coverage of the 4090 bud. Glad it is working out for you

 

They are super cards for sure. I personally have decided to hang on to my 3090 for now. Realistically the 4090 doesn't offer me anything that my 3090 cannot do. I used to have a habit of climbing the ladder every time a new GPU was out, more than when a new CPU came out but over the years I have realised that for the cost, there is little return on that investment. That being said I have locked myself in on my current build until I move up to AM5, so if I consider a GPU upgrade it will be then. 

 

The other thing that put me off this gen....that power connector man. As far as I am concerned it is fairly shoddy design and im hoping that next gen they have a sensible revision. Nvidia really did not spend enough time on it. 

I don't think Nvidia was the primary designer of that connection standard, but they definitely pushed for it. Intel was one, so its funny that they are not using it.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with just the Nvidia adapters. Whether you use an adapter, or a new cable, or a cable extension, just feels like the overall design is shoddy. Heard a lot of electrical folks chime in saying the amps on 12v over the small pins just leaves them a bit flabbergasted as to how this design was okay'd.

 

Yeah I definitely don't want one of these cards with the 12VHPWR connector.

[bonami2]

10 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

That's around Canadian $ 1,300...by coincidence, I was at a chain store yesterday to pick up s.th. else (Starbucks and Kicking Horse coffee on sale for Can$ 9.99 instead of Can$ 14.99) and 'just happened to pass by' their electronics department. Apart from the C1 48, they also had the C1 55 on sale for Can$ 1,500...our tv in the m-bedroom is a LG 55 IPS HDR but getting on in years (~4.5)...thinking...thinking...better make strong coffee first, though 

Nah they are really 1000$ canadian dollar on amazon for some reason from two random seller. 

[J7SC_Orion]

2 hours ago, bonami2 said:

Nah they are really 1000$ canadian dollar on amazon for some reason from two random seller. 

 

...I can only find 'refurbished' ones at Amazon.ca near that price...doesn't matter, though. If anything, we'll go for the C2 55 when the time comes. 

 

[bonami2]

18 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...I can only find 'refurbished' ones at Amazon.ca near that price...doesn't matter, though. If anything, we'll go for the C2 55 when the time comes. 

 

 

 

 

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B092LZNZB7?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_5YPAVFA5RJ6A0SEJM45B&th=1

 

 

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08BZXPKFY?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_21G2JQTC4YD888E59RPN

 

 

One is 60hz i think not sure other is 120hz

 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by bonami2

[J7SC_Orion]

1 hour ago, bonami2 said:

 

 

 

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B092LZNZB7?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_5YPAVFA5RJ6A0SEJM45B&th=1

 

 

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08BZXPKFY?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_21G2JQTC4YD888E59RPN

 

 

One is 60hz i think not sure other is 120hz

 

 

 

LG A1 =/= LG C1 

 

...still, with other prices going up, good to keep track on what's happening in tv world. As mentioned, we might be in the market soon for a new OLED 55 (or if I have my way, 65)

Edited October 26, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[bonami2]

1 hour ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

LG A1 =/= LG C1 

 

...still, with other prices going up, good to keep track on what's happening in tv world. As mentioned, we might be in the market soon for a new OLRD 55 (or if I have my way, 65)

 

Oh yea well for suround it doest really matter.

[J7SC_Orion]

10 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Nice coverage of the 4090 bud. Glad it is working out for you

 

They are super cards for sure. I personally have decided to hang on to my 3090 for now. Realistically the 4090 doesn't offer me anything that my 3090 cannot do. I used to have a habit of climbing the ladder every time a new GPU was out, more than when a new CPU came out but over the years I have realised that for the cost, there is little return on that investment. That being said I have locked myself in on my current build until I move up to AM5, so if I consider a GPU upgrade it will be then. 

 

The other thing that put me off this gen....that power connector man. As far as I am concerned it is fairly shoddy design and im hoping that next gen they have a sensible revision. Nvidia really did not spend enough time on it. 

 

...glad you liked the "Jekyll & Hyde" summary. Per the TechPowerUP graph below (4K average for ~ 40 games), the 4090s are in a league by themselves, though I expect AMD's Navi3 products to challenge, never mind subsequent NVidia products. Still, if you look at the graph below, it is a 'generational shift' in performance. For my / our purposes - taking advantage of the 4K 120 OLEDs offer, the productivity power and time savings  - it made sense, even beyond some work apps. Besides, I have over 34 GPUs here (not counting really old stuff) and a new GPU purchase is a business decision as well as everything gets recycled in work-stations. The only thing I don't look forward to is the 'domino game of musical chairs', the lowest-end old GPU currently still in use is a GTX 670 (running on a database dev server, w/Microsoft default driver only). That will get bumped by a 980 - and so forth, and so on...a lot of re-configuring to do soon, and some of my staff are not thrilled...especially if I add a Navi3 or another NVidia RTX4K as well soon...at least they're happy that I don't do HWBot anymore and the mess that created 

Spoiler

  

...as to 4090 pricing, this was actually 'reasonable' if you look at the intro-pricing of the 3090 Ti and custom RT3k and XT6K series at the time. Obviously, after the shortage came a glut, and these days, prices are all over the place, depending on the older model, though mostly much lower. Yet referring to the performance graph below again, there is a lot of bang for the buck w/ 4090s.

 

...on the issue of the power connector, they probably adapted too early (I think this may have been an Intel spec update, see spoiler below...also note 'compliant PSUs' at the bottom of that page). It is probably not actually at the card end of the connector, but the dongles which really have to be twisted and turned - the dongles are a bad short-term 'transitional' fix NVidia rammed through before its time, IMO. Fortunately, the Seasonic PSU I use for the 4090 is compliant re. specs and now offers a single cable...

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[Sir Beregond]

2 hours ago, bonami2 said:

 

 

 

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B092LZNZB7?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_5YPAVFA5RJ6A0SEJM45B&th=1

 

 

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08BZXPKFY?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_21G2JQTC4YD888E59RPN

 

 

One is 60hz i think not sure other is 120hz

 

 

Was going to say, these are two different models. You posted the A1 and J7SC posted the C1.

 

Yeah makes sense C1 is just selling refurbished now. Its a 2021 model and I think they had their big blow out sale of remaining new stock when I bought mine new on amazon for $790 USD + tax back in mid-July.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[pio]

2 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...glad you liked the "Jekyll & Hyde" summary. Per the TechPowerUP graph below (4K average for ~ 40 games), the 4090s are in a league by themselves, though I expect AMD's Navi3 products to challenge, never mind subsequent NVidia products. Still, if you look at the graph below, it is a 'generational shift' in performance. For my / our purposes - taking advantage of the 4K 120 OLEDs offer, the productivity power and time savings  - it made sense, even beyond some work apps. Besides, I have over 34 GPUs here (not counting really old stuff) and a new GPU purchase is a business decision as well as everything gets recycled in work-stations. The only thing I don't look forward to is the 'domino game of musical chairs', the lowest-end old GPU currently still in use is a GTX 670 (running on a database dev server, w/Microsoft default driver only). That will get bumped by a 980 - and so forth, and so on...a lot of re-configuring to do soon, and some of my staff are not thrilled...especially if I add a Navi3 or another NVidia RTX4K as well soon...at least they're happy that I don't do HWBot anymore and the mess that created 

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...as to 4090 pricing, this was actually 'reasonable' if you look at the intro-pricing of the 3090 Ti and custom RT3k and XT6K series at the time. Obviously, after the shortage came a glut, and these days, prices are all over the place, depending on the older model, though mostly much lower. Yet referring to the performance graph below again, there is a lot of bang for the buck w/ 4090s.

 

...on the issue of the power connector, they probably adapted too early (I think this may have been an Intel spec update, see spoiler below...also note 'compliant PSUs' at the bottom of that page). It is probably not actually at the card end of the connector, but the dongles which really have to be twisted and turned - the dongles are a bad short-term 'transitional' fix NVidia rammed through before its time, IMO. Fortunately, the Seasonic PSU I use for the 4090 is compliant re. specs and now offers a single cable...

 

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I'm still super happy for you mate, the performance seems obviously top tier.  I do have to disagree on the price argument you made though.  Flagship GPU's aren't supposed to continuously get more expensive every release, they're supposed to get CHEAPER on the previous generation while the latest and greatest is priced the same as last year's.  That's how it always used to be.  Nvidia and Intel have both been guilty of ramping up those premium brackets for a decade now, and its gotten to the point its sickening to a lot of people.  AMD of course is just as complacent, but they're "usually" lesser priced than the competitors.  That being said, you paid the "early adopter's tax".  You're aware of that.  That's fine.  I did the same with my 6900XT.  It happens.  I'll probably do the same when the 7900XT releases assuming no 12VHPWR connector on those (unknown yet).   

 

The power connector thing, well I reamed that enough in the news article thread.  It is what it is.  So long as YOUR card isn't having those issues, then I'm happy for you.

 

And yeah, with your display, I can absolutely see why you'd have made the jump.  I'd pay the premium for 5120x1440 @ 120Hz as well since a 3090Ti won't cut it for me either.  If you're happy at 4k resolution with that card, it just makes me even more stoked for my own upgrade eventually  from the 6900XT.  Again, glad you've got your hands on one and that you're enjoying the heck out of it!

[J7SC_Orion]

2 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Was going to say, these are two different models. You posted the A1 and J7SC posted the C1.

 

Yeah makes sense C1 is just selling refurbished now. Its a 2021 model and I think they had their big blow out sale of remaining new stock when I bought mine new on amazon for $790 USD + tax back in mid-July.

 

There are just a couple new C1s (48, 55, 65) left, marked with 'final pricing', in stores around here. I had a chance to compare the C2 & C1 side-by-side, and the former is a bit brighter but otherwise mostly the same - and even on the C1, I turn down brightness as I am surrounded by monitors fed by multiple machines in my work area...still a heck of a lot better (other than perhaps response time) than those big CRTs we used to have when I started out - those gave me a headache...

 

 

Edited October 27, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[Sir Beregond]

3 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...as to 4090 pricing, this was actually 'reasonable' if you look at the intro-pricing of the 3090 Ti and custom RT3k and XT6K series at the time. Obviously, after the shortage came a glut, and these days, prices are all over the place, depending on the older model, though mostly much lower. Yet referring to the performance graph below again, there is a lot of bang for the buck w/ 4090s.

 

 

 

I don't know. I think many just compare the 4090 pricing to the 3090 and 3090 Ti and forget the 90 branding really is just a rebranding of what we used to get for much cheaper as 80 Ti's in their respective generations and in doing do, Nvidia pushes the price up and it gets normalized. As bad as the 4080 12GB was, I still look at the 4080 16GB and think to myself, wow, Nvidia actually has the gall to sell a 379mm2 die card for $1200. Wow.

 

The performance is definitely there in the 4090, but make no mistake, the performance per dollar of every card in the 40-series is definitely a regression.

 

I had an interesting video pop up on my Youtube feed yesterday and I gotta say, it makes a lot of sense.

 

 

Anyway I apologize. I didn't mean to bring my distaste of GPU pricing trends into your thread. Taking that aspect out, realistically I am very impressed with the performance and am really looking forward to seeing what a waterblock does for this beast!

Edited October 27, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[pio]

4 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Anyway I apologize. I didn't mean to bring my distaste of GPU pricing trends into your thread. Taking that aspect out, realistically I am very impressed with the performance and am really looking forward to seeing what a waterblock does for this beast!

Same here.   It absolutely is amazing for performance, and a waterblock on it would certainly be interesting to see results from.