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A delightfully cursed solution to poor chipset placement


CassieDragon

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Problem: My X570 box has a 6800XT Red Dragon breathing fire straight onto the chipset.
Problem 2: The X570 chipset cooler fan is spinning at 4k RPM to keep the chipset below 80C.
Problem 3: My board gets cranky with GPU roasting the chipset.

Solution: Take a laptop heatpipe cooler and mount it to the chipset. I didn't have an exact fit because I needed a bit of a drop to clear the GPU and the sata ports, but I was able to make it work. It took a wee bit of careful bending to get the heatpipe to fit, but it does fit.
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Result: 62-65C operating temps without a fan, and about 40C operating temps after I placed a 120mm right ahead of it to aid airflow to the GPU and my 10Gb NIC.20231008_201547.thumb.jpg.989718238ecc08cf5c9ca9f270991690.jpg

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Pretty cool idea 😄 

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2 hours ago, bonami2 said:

Pretty cool idea 😄 

My operational theory is that you should get the hea-sinks out from under the GPU. Heat pipes are cheap, effective, and you can get them out of the scrap piles at ewaste recyclers. Ultimately, put the chips where you need them to minimize all the fun bits of long trace length, etc. Then run heatpipes to get the heat away from those chips.
My machine, despite having 8 fans plus the 3 on the GPU, has no unpleasant fan harmonics when pulling 600W running through F@h work units and it's quieter than the HVAC system.

 

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It's a ghetto solution, and that is why I love it. Whatever works....works. Good idea stealing a laptop heatpipe assembly. nice and low profile and has certainly helped with your temps 🙂

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3 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

It's a ghetto solution, and that is why I love it. Whatever works....works. Good idea stealing a laptop heatpipe assembly. nice and low profile and has certainly helped with your temps 🙂

QFT.  Honestly, this is exactly the kind of mods I love seeing.  No off the shelf solution, no problem!  :wheee:

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I love ghetto rigging shenanigans. I'm not as OCD as 🥑 but I would love to see the datavac blow the dust out of that rig.

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5 hours ago, pioneerisloud said:

QFT.  Honestly, this is exactly the kind of mods I love seeing.  No off the shelf solution, no problem! 

 

2 hours ago, Fluxmaven said:

I love ghetto rigging shenanigans. I'm not as OCD as 🥑 but I would love to see the datavac blow the dust out of that rig.

  

IRL I'm... well let's leave it as I've got a resume that's fitting of a supervillain and normally there isn't a OTS solution for the problems I solve. Where angels fear to tread is just my warmup.



The heatpipe cools a chip of about 25-35W, the chip set is like 15W. Heat pipes are amazing pieces of tech.  So the end result is that I was more of using the laptop heatpipes because I don't have access to heatpipes that are bent in the shape needed. The CPU based SATA ports on the board block the easier to fit heatpipes and I use those for my RAID0 array. The basic rule to it is you have to avoid bending the heatpipe enough that you cause it to get a pinhole and leak, but they are somewhat forgiving of abuse. The heatpipe does not show it but it's kind of bent up. If I do it again, I'm going to see if I can attach a heatpipe onto the chipset heatpipe to cool the NVMe SSD.

I hate the idea of adding moving parts to a machine by using a CLC, so I Have to get creative on how to route heatpipes to cool stuff where most pople would throw in the towel and just CLC the thing.

 

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You're not wrong on the moving parts bit.  If you're building for longevity (or silence honestly), you really don't want moving parts.  

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15 hours ago, pioneerisloud said:

You're not wrong on the moving parts bit.  If you're building for longevity (or silence honestly), you really don't want moving parts.  

I'll also be honest: I'm not a reddit quality OCer, I'm used to just making my own solutions for cooling. I don't GET the idea of doubling my machine's cost to make it 'look good' by doing water cooling when I'm practically handed a W with an ATX form-factor case. 20% and I get to use my skills to build it? Maybe. I don't like how a lot of our extreme hardware hobby has been gate-kept behind money and it feels like there's less "There wasn't a good solution, I wanted to make this happen, so I made my own" and a lot more "Your use case has been deemed profitable to satisfy. Give us your money." I want both. It feels like a lot of things, like motherboards, have had a bit of cost creep over the years in a way that has lost some of the soul of the hobby.
 

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I'm a total slut for watercooling. It's appealing for a combination of added performance, silence, and aesthetics. I do however understand that it's a terrible investment for most people. I also focus on actual performance and use big external rads and soft tubing. Not the bare minimum rad space in an airflow choked glass fishbowl of a case. 

 

I miss how much more unique builds used to be when people just had to engineer their own solutions. I also totally hear you on the motherboard cost creep. It seems like you're either stuck with bottom of the barrel junk or ultra premium. Not a lot of good stuff falls in the affordable middle of the road range. I like having high end boards (even though I'm a noob overclocker) but I don't really like paying for stuff I'll never use like Thunderbolt, USB DAC's, daughterboards for a gazillion M.2 drives etc. 

 

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20231023_003259.thumb.jpg.7c4329795dc6036819a144d31b927dd7.jpgI have a better Pic of the heat pipe

 

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