gamersnexus Framerate Isn’t Good Enough, A Deep Dive into Latency

[Slaughtahouse]

 

An increasingly important topic to discuss as frame interpolation becomes mainstream within the rendering pipeline.

[bonami2]

They need to make test on uncommon game. Optimised game test are a joke. Am sure either Ark Ascended or Beam NG will show one of the two brand completly fail latency wise.  AMD seem to have more issue with older game than nvidia for me.

Still am impressed the 7900xt seem to do well!

[Slaughtahouse]

12 hours ago, bonami2 said:

They need to make test on uncommon game. Optimised game test are a joke. Am sure either Ark Ascended or Beam NG will show one of the two brand completly fail latency wise.  AMD seem to have more issue with older game than nvidia for me.

Still am impressed the 7900xt seem to do well!

For sure there is something to be said about Reflex and how it differs from a driver level implementation. Both solutions have pro's and con's. Reflex's quality may very well depend on how well the developers implemented it. Ultimately, I'm less interested in the game to game testing and rather I am more interested in the broader education of this topic. I can use FSR3 for example in Avatar and boost avg. framerates from 70 to 120 but the gameplay at 120 feels worse than at 70. I am using AMD's equivalent, Anti-lag+. 

 

I don't play competitive games, yet I see how these solutions will ultimately be valuable for all demographics of gamers. I'll always enable them (Reflex, Anti-lag) if it's available and there is no clear net loss in perf. 

[speed_demon]

8 hours ago, Slaughtahouse said:

For sure there is something to be said about Reflex and how it differs from a driver level implementation. Both solutions have pro's and con's. Reflex's quality may very well depend on how well the developers implemented it. Ultimately, I'm less interested in the game to game testing and rather I am more interested in the broader education of this topic. I can use FSR3 for example in Avatar and boost avg. framerates from 70 to 120 but the gameplay at 120 feels worse than at 70. I am using AMD's equivalent, Anti-lag+. 

 

I don't play competitive games, yet I see how these solutions will ultimately be valuable for all demographics of gamers. I'll always enable them (Reflex, Anti-lag) if it's available and there is no clear net loss in perf. 

100%. The specific games don't matter so much to me as the broader understanding of how this affects performance. And in my book performance is not just sheer FPS numbers but latency and responsiveness of the system as well.

[GanjaSMK]

I think the nail on the head is explaining the frame buffer piece.  

The essential general agreement that you want to be 'on the brink of GPU bound".  Even without reflex, it's obvious that's where you want to be.  Reflex answers that. 

 

Will it be common that this could potentially become driver bound across both NV/AMD?

[schuck6566]

On 09/02/2024 at 20:34, bonami2 said:

They need to make test on uncommon game. Optimised game test are a joke. Am sure either Ark Ascended or Beam NG will show one of the two brand completly fail latency wise.  AMD seem to have more issue with older game than nvidia for me.

Still am impressed the 7900xt seem to do well!

ROTFL the older games were at least honest and threw the Nvidia logo right across the screen and said something about plays best on Nvidia so you knew they were in the green teams pocket. Now you have to look a bit deeper to see who supporting what the best.But they are still all taking money from 1 team or another in my opinion,otherwise you wouldn't see such differences when propriatary tech is turn off.

[bonami2]

5 hours ago, schuck6566 said:

ROTFL the older games were at least honest and threw the Nvidia logo right across the screen and said something about plays best on Nvidia so you knew they were in the green teams pocket. Now you have to look a bit deeper to see who supporting what the best.But they are still all taking money from 1 team or another in my opinion,otherwise you wouldn't see such differences when propriatary tech is turn off.

Ark ascended and beam ng are neither optimised for any brand.

 

One is on Torque 3d i think and the other is Unreal Engine 5 but run like junk.

 

That issue is mostly Electronic Art and Ubisoft and other big studio playing dumb game with us.