AMD talks about Zen 4 already

[UltraMega]

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In a new interview, AMD Executive Vice President Rick Bergman spoke to The Street and said:

 

“Given the maturity of the x86 architecture now, the answer has to be, more or less, all of the above. If you looked at our whitepaper on Zen 3, it was this long list of things we did to get that 19% (IPC gain). Zen 4 is going to have a long list of similar things, in which everything from caches to branch prediction is analyzed. Everything is analyzed to squeeze more performance ”.

 

"Certainly the manufacturing process opens an additional door for us to get better performance per watt and so on, and we will take advantage of that as well."

Source: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-talks-about-zen-4-already.html

 

Looking to 5nm already. Very cool.

[ENTERPRISE]

It does not surprise me, they will have been focusing on Zen 4 as soon as Zen 3 architecture was completed.

[J7SC_Orion]

2 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

It does not surprise me, they will have been focusing on Zen 4 as soon as Zen 3 architecture was completed.

  

Yeah, and with TSMC apparently doing really well (and booking future capacity now) for 5nm EUV, standing still is going backwards for firms such as AMD. Besides, AMD is on a roll...

 

[ENTERPRISE]

2 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

  

Yeah, and with TSMC apparently doing really well (and booking future capacity now) for 5nm EUV, standing still is going backwards for firms such as AMD. Besides, AMD is on a roll...

 

Yeah AMD doesn't want to stop their momentum now. Book up all that 5nm to starve out Intel lol.

[Mistio]

Intel is not a tiny manufacturer using a corner shop. 
They will leverage on their resources and fabs if they have too. 

Unless they sell everything and close their corner shop

[J7SC_Orion]

4 hours ago, Mistio said:

Intel is not a tiny manufacturer using a corner shop. 
They will leverage on their resources and fabs if they have too. 

Unless they sell everything and close their corner shop

  

...whether they lean on their own fabs or go with TSMC per below, Intel had made a set of major misstep several years back (under the previous CEO) which has changed their corporate trajectory down.

 

In addition to CPU, a lot will also ride on the Xe tile graphics for the enterprise market. In any case, I certainly believe that Intel will eventually recover, but re. current and next step fab tech execution, TSMC leads by a country mile (and not just Intel). Now, as the previous 7 or so years  had shown, it is best not to have just one price setting and product cycle setting, dominant player - from that consumer perspective alone, I hope Intel will regain its strength. Trouble is, there's a long lead-time in that business, and mistakes made 4+ years ago have an impact for a long while after. 

 

[Sir Beregond]

I mean makes sense. I'd assume a team has already been working on Zen 4 since these things take years to develop.

[steakikan]

On 11/15/2020 at 2:18 AM, J7SC_Orion said:

  

...whether they lean on their own fabs or go with TSMC per below, Intel had made a set of major misstep several years back (under the previous CEO) which has changed their corporate trajectory down.

 

In addition to CPU, a lot will also ride on the Xe tile graphics for the enterprise market. In any case, I certainly believe that Intel will eventually recover, but re. current and next step fab tech execution, TSMC leads by a country mile (and not just Intel). Now, as the previous 7 or so years  had shown, it is best not to have just one price setting and product cycle setting, dominant player - from that consumer perspective alone, I hope Intel will regain its strength. Trouble is, there's a long lead-time in that business, and mistakes made 4+ years ago have an impact for a long while after. 

 

Yep, and adding salt to injury Apple M1 also proof not that ARM arch are better but X86 has been complacent for too long. If next gen Exynos also a powerful CPU comparable to SD875 then fabs market will change quite far.