Bastiaan_NL

Nice results @Mr. Fox As far as competing goes, my card is not willing to do more. Memory sucks and I couldn't get it to do more with the core either. The only way forward is with a better card, and I'm not sure I want another 3060Ti.

I know you wouldn't sub those runs, as it makes no sense if you do not compete and probably for moral reasons too. As far as the 'farce' of ECC goes, I know what you mean and it's sad that measures like this are needed to keep those bugged runs out but I truly hate seeing modded or bugged runs on HWBOT (ask @Avacado). When I see a few green lights during the whole run it's fine, but if the whole screen turns into a disco party or an artistic construction site I'll hit that ESC button as fast as possible and find a way to make it work. Now I've had a few runs finish with artefacts and received higher scores, but it never felt right to submit those. Also, what is the point for me? I've got so much hardware that I could just grab another card which works better. It is sad that things are going this way, but I feel like that's a natural evolution of 'good things'... The 4090 looks really good this way! I love the cable, it looks so much better than an extension with those 4 big connectors! As much as I hate the design of the 12VHPWR, it looks way cleaner than having 3 (or 4 as per spec) PCIE power cables sticking out of a GPU. Picture quality is almost (if not) perfect, I had to go full screen to really enjoy it

So excellent that I have been thinking for days and I have no clue what to do to make it fair, interesting and work.. Also, that team captain thing wasn't my choice. I don't mind keeping an eye out for incorrect team submissions but I'm not really looking for extra work. Going by HWBOT points would be a big mistake. For example, I have at least 1500 points in benchmarks that I could submit if I wanted to. Cheap hardware is the most entertaining, and usually not worth a lot on the bot. That one hurts, that one time you were there with me and I blew that GT240 GDDR5 Though that's the only card I remember literally blowing up...

A part of it is regret, but I have so much more fun with older GPU's than the newer GPU's. I recently found out what was holding me back with the 7970 and managed to clock it a lot higher. Still not where I want to be but so much fun to play with it. You keep saying this, but I know you still enjoy it way too much for it to be just 'fine tuning' That's a big difference, and it'll make the game way more enjoyable this way! This is really interesting. I watched a few benchmark video's with LN2 on 4090's and they are all using a big heater. Now I know that it's useful to keep the condensation to a minimum but now it also serves as a memory heater to keep the clocks up. Maybe a good voltmod on the memory might help to keep the temps up There is a nice discussion on HWBOT going about the artefacts in benchmarks leading to unreasonable scores which are still 'valid'. The latest systeminfo version includes a check for ECC enabled, which will cut performance but should filter out those bugged runs. I'm still not sure what to think about it, but at least they are trying to make it fair for everyone. To keep the memory warmer than the core you would almost use a less efficient thermal putty cause you want the core to be as cold as possible. At least you now know what was/is holding you back.

Happy thanksgiving guys, and all the best to all of you I'm glad you pulled through Jan, and I hope you'll stay with us for a long time. Don't let that weird pumping thing hold you back

Oh I bet he is getting rich, I got some stuff for free too so you know what that means Now you are talking, you getting a few goodies from Elmor and using a pot is music to my ears!

Everytime I look at HWBOT this song pops up in my mind. Pretty sure not everyone likes this kind of music, but it is kinda funny.. ( @J7SC_Orion I spend more time listening to classical music than this stuff, just so you know ) Also, some hardware showed up some time ago but I haven't played with it much. For now it's on the ever growing list of projects, but 'soon' it'll be used to overclock some hardware even further!

An internal comp sounds great, though we might have to set some strict rules or choose a specific benchmark to not favor the expensive hardware some of us own. Also, even though the Netherlands isn't that big and I 'know' two other benchers over here I really don't care much about the Country Cup. We as EHW are a team and that's why it was so much fun with the Team Cup.

Sadly no sparkles, missed opportunity Looks cool hot though

The one I had was only here for a few days to play around with. Given it had a 450w locked limit (inno3d) I couldn't do a lot of crazy things. Still great performance compared to the 3090 or a 2080Ti which my brother has now, as he's the new owner of that card and he doesn't overclock his hardware. The card really needs that 600W to keep those clocks over 3ghz, or even higher, as this one runs at an average of a little over 2900mhz under load at an even 450W. It is around 16°C in the house over here, unless the sun heats up the house. I like it like that, but when I'm benching it can go down to 10°C in the hardware room/office

Hardware is moving really fast at the moment, or at least it feels like it, so if you keep waiting on the next gen because it will be a lot faster you'll keep waiting until the end of times. I know what you mean, that it might be a bit late for LGA1700 but it'll last you a long time if you upgrade. Do you need it? Not at all. With those single core clock speeds you are getting out of the 5950X and the high all core clocks you are still good for a long time, depending on how crazy high your FS settings are As far as the 12VHPWR connector goes, I've got one from ElmorLabs which I can hook up to the PMD so I can keep an eye on the power draw once I buy a 4090 for myself. A HOF card would be nice, but I doubt I'll like the price tag... Seeing der8auer's video with the EVC2 hooked up to his ASUS 4090 drawing over 800W, using some chilled water or colder would be a better idea. Keeping it cool will be a hard task. When I saw the first results from those AM5 chips I was convinced I would go AMD this time, but the 13th gen has been great so far (besides a few hickups). I'm still not blown away by the memory clocks and timings I see on AM5, not worth it for me as long as I can't get those clocks up and still maintain a high IF clock etc. The X3D will be interesting, I hope for the sake of everyone it'll perform really good so Intel has some competition. The Port Royal hall of fame and me are waiting on your 4090 WC results..

Congrats!

This might seem to be the case, but more often than I like to admit I'm sitting with my hands in my hair trying to be competitive with a lot of hardware I own. Yes, there are things I can do well but I'm nowhere close to the pro's. And I do understand your situation, usually I switch to something I know that works to have some fun instead.

Thanks J I've had this board for a while, I guess I never told you about it. I love it so much, it was a dream ever since I saw it for the first time and at some point a French friend offered to sell me his bnib board. This is by no means a stable overclock though, just throw some clocks and vcore at it and see what sticks. 1.48 vcore for 6.3ghz running spi32m, external loop (bench frame), windows open. Yeah, 4 cores is more than enough for SPI Though 3d benchmarking on 6.1/4.4 with some CPU load (time spi etc) is working too.

that's not nice Chris, not at all... Why don't you start modding your 3060Ti to give it a try?

First in the 1k club And proof that 2.03 is working, I've got my mem clock up and things are looking better now Intel Core i9 13900K @ 6300 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR VALID.X86.FR [y36e1q] Validated Dump by Bastiaan_NL (2022-10-29 16:08:09) - MB: EVGA Corp. Z690 DARK KINGPIN - RAM: 32768 MB

Oh, I was reading along and working on the card last night *excuses excuses* Card wasn't happy with what I did, ask @pioneerisloud cause he was watching me blow up the VRMs

Dangit, I was hoping we could have some fun together I understand it though, and the shunt mod was not what I was hoping for. So now I have a few EVC's on the way and more stuff like that to give it a bit more voltage instead of (or with) the shunts (if I can get that working).

I'm still ahead, though I love the waterblock I totally agree with the powerlimit flaw and things like the boost tables doing what they want. I understand it from their point but for us it's a pain in the .... Even if you boost lock a card with a custom vf curve it will still move around on the boost table, if only I was able to lock it at an exact clock.. I'm still not done with my 3060Ti, some things are on the way and I'll mod it more and clock it higher. (just so you know ) [edit] And mine is just a single 8 pin, at some point I might blow it up

Time to update to an Intel J, I'm looking at 14k plus CPU score in TS extreme Just kidding, we talked about it and you really don't need it (or do you?).. I can't wait for your 4090 to be under water to see if that's the way to go. And please, be careful with the 12vhpwr connector

I'm on 8P with HT and Ecores now, 5.9/4.4. It is 3dmark CPU benchmark stable, but it's pointless to do any benchmarking as long as I can't get any decent memory clocks. So 6ghz all core with 4.4 or 4.5 ecores doesn't sound too crazy

Do you mean the latest bios pre 13th gen? If so, I didn't do that. The only bios out there for 13th gen is the 2.01 (checked a minute ago), and that one has a few bugs and what not. I haven't had time to dive into it more, and I rather wait for a new one.

That's the spirit! It was a lot of work for sure, but now we have some time to chill No problem at all, enjoy it There is always a chance to win, even with one sub! No problem tictoc. Thanks, we did what we could and the bar was set pretty high by ourselves. Yet we were still able to meet that goal, which was a sub in every benchmark. Onto the next one....

There have been reports already on their post about the new bios version, regarding memory issues, Eleet not working and what not so I'll wait for that to get fixed. Not that I'm surprised, it's brand new.