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...sorry for the consecutive posts; just saw this: ...& not sure if this one had already been posted at EHW..

...positive offset voltages should never have been offered in general bios in the first place, IMO, but especially not with the heat-sensitive 3D models. Positive offset bios should only be available for select XOC/ sub-zero benchers. Negative offset can work quite well. I'm glad though that I decided to wait with upgrading from my 5950X...the RTX 4K goodies such as DLSS3, FrameGen and NVReflex 'upgraded' the whole system in the main games and apps I use. My 5950X on Asus DarkH 570 is now two years old and still performs exactly as on day one; never used positive offset, even with benching (below, spoiler) on extensive w-cooled setup. In any case, when Intel's X99 chips first came out, Asus had 'early bios' problems (VCCSA 'auto' way too high) that fried CPUs, including one of mine which fortunately was replaced by the powers that be. Part of the problem were those 'unofficial' extra pins that were enabled by Asus...

...it also comes down to 'which DLSS' you're talking about . Below are three runs in Cyberpunks 2077 of the built-in benchmark with identical OC, and test conditions (temps; signing out and back in after each settings change and before each test). The first one is '4K Native', the second one 'DLSS2' (Quality) and the third one 'DLSS3' (Quality, FrameGen, NVR). DLSS3 and FrameGen uses more VRAM than DLSS2 w/o FrameGen

...happen to have this handy; Cyberpunk 2077 4K DLSS3 comp w/HWInfo inset which includes allocated and dedicated VRAM

That was my point, dress in sarcasm - I'm sticking with my 48 inch 4K120 OLED for now. That said, I've seen a test vid in an AV store whereby I could tell the difference between 4K and 8K, but the difference was marginal (for now). 16K 360Hz OLED, or bust...

...who needs LTT infomercials ?

...8K 240 Hz 48 inch OLED, or bust

...below, some more OLED HDR eye candy I can recommend... But first, a quick 'FYI'...this may not be news to most folks, but the super-thin LG OLED panels not only have a clear protective foil on the front, but also the rear which definitely also has to come off for better heat dissipation...took me a couple of weeks to figure that out (and who reads the manual anyways)

Titan AdaL 48 GB HBM3... for left kidney

...some soothing 'weekend-brunch' food ...tasted better than it was visually arranged (in a hurry & hungry)

Were it not for the high price of HBM/3, it would look great on some gaming setups... However, at least for now, this is more likely for the enterprise / AI crowd (currently NV Hopper and AMD, Intel competing products and their successors) as they all seem to move towards a sort of 'ersatz' compute in memory by having memory as close to the compute die as possible.

...yup, the same happened to me as well at OCN...

...apart from the crypto issues, there is also the recent Covid situation which resulted in a lot of folks upgrading their home systems and/or components. That said, NVidia's real money maker is the enterprise / AI segment. Still, the RTX 4K release has been a bit weird - 4090 release prices were oriented on the 3090 Ti MSRP (before its price crash and subsequent inventory glut), and the 4090s very quickly sold out after release. IMO, the 4090 had raised expectations for the whole RTX 4K line re. price/performance, yet the debacle with the two 4080s (one since rebranded as 4070 Ti) and their biggish performance gap to the 4090 didn't help. Given some of NVidia's, uhm, business practices, a fair number of reviewers also were ready to pounce... I just checked, and my 4090 AIB model is still at the same price (~US$1,619) at the same retailer as it was last October, but some of the more expensive / 'premium' 4090s and most 4080s seem to experience some price drops, and the OP is obviously about the just-released 4070 price drops as well. Re. the whole RTX 4K palette in general, the line's DLSS3 / FrameGen / NVReflex make a far bigger difference (where available in apps) than most folks think. It actually delayed my mobo / CPU / RAM upgrade from a Ryzen 5950X / Asus DarkH setup, it is that good...about 80% of my admittedly smallish time budget for games involves DLSS3 / FrameGen / NVReflex apps, and I play exclusively at 4K.

...and at the other end of the scale, there's also the 4060 Ti waiting in the wings on the lower end...some discussion of that one as well as the 4070 price drops along your OP here

NVidia seems to go overboard with market-segmentation this time around; the RTX 4090 released first generated a lot expectations for the rest of the AdaL line-up...seems that even the 4080s aren't selling like hot cakes. Ultimately, this may mean that NVidia will look for additional revenues at the other end of the $-scale, earlier, ie. 4090 Ti/Titan Ada

...some more feedback and examples from the mod, by GN (time-stamped)

Is that a similar / same mod described above > here . ...haven't bothered with the 6900XT work system yet since the other one runs w/ the 4090...still might try it for the 6900XT when I have more time

...I usually leave the wallpaper engine running after about 10 min of idle, never mind that when I consciously leave the system alone - say lunch - I switch it over to the 4K television-over-IP box anyway. --- On an unrelated note, we were at a couple of big box stores (+ specialized computer chains) over the last few business days for other purchases. Needless to add that I steal myself away every time to look at the television and monitor displays...I saw LG C2, 3 and G3 and the respective and competing Samsung and Sony models - but never at the same height and/or next to each other...this is very annoying for anyone who would like a head-to-head comp with the same inputs and settings . For now, I am not interested the replace the C1 / 48 as it still awes me more than ever (even with nits turned down, per above), but the master-bedroom oldie IPS-HDR tv might need an upgrade over the next year or so... It is connected to a 3090 on its own. I've looked at all kinds of synthetic tv/monitor benchmarks, but they don't really do it for me...I like to see at least three options right next to each other with the same input settings...but apparently, that is too much to ask.

...lunch on the run --- wholegrain spaghetti w/salsa and country egg, fresh mushrooms, prosciutto

Some more (RTX 4090) path-tracing, with some emphasis on light reflections. Originals are in 4K Ultra setting with DLSS 3 Quality / FrameGen / NVR and RTX Overdrive (= path tracing); screenshots below are the shrunk .jpg versions but they should still get enough detail across.

...this discussion of a mod could be useful for RTX2K, 3K and RDNA2 with CP2077 Overdrive enabled @bonami2and @Sir Beregond might les us know how well it works. ...and also Digital Foundry's intro regarding CP2077 path tracing from last week which I had posted then in another forum/thread.

...after all that Cyberpunking, back to my other visual fav which looks stunning on the OLED FS2020, dawn over the Andes ...and afterwards, another great YT vid for OLED:

...some early dawn flying over the highest part of the Andes . The 4090 throttled to 70% (out of 121%) power limit, throttled GPU core voltage and only used a mild oc to get 'down to' ~ 400 W....which still is > 120 fps average at 4K, thanks to DLSS3 / FrameGen/ NVR...maxed oc and power limit gets into the high 500 W range in FS2020 but that makes no sense with the OLED 120Hz 4K. Original screenshots at 4K / png

...yeah, path tracing is pretty resource-intensive which is why DLSS3 + FrameGen + NVReflex are so important...I believe that all RTX4xxx can employ those techniques, not just a 4090, but it is probably better to use a 4089 or 4090 for path tracing on 4K settings. On another note, I mentioned the Unreal 5.x engine above - the demos I have seen are fantastic (as one would expect for demos), but perhaps it can also get to a form of path tracing in a more resource-efficient way; we'll see. Somewhat related, I would love to see non-DX drivers such as Vulkan to adopt similar tech and features - perhaps I am 'dreaming in technicolor', but a nice Linux-based system able to run major titles natively with the same eye candy as DX would be, well, a dream...

Custom cooling summary: All tubing is 1/2 x 3/4 and the quick-disconnects are all Koolance QD4s