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J7SC_Orion
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Wow...looks real ...still no plans for GT7 on PC ?
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Nice - congrats ! Now, all you have to do is optimize memory...
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Speaking of power consumption, below (time-stamped) is a nice power-efficiency graph by GN that includes the just-arrived 7900X3D. Speaking of power and 'house heaters', that is ironically where the RTX 4090 shines - while mine has a max vbios of 671W (1000 W optional), it typically is set to 80% PL in gaming and runs rings around the RTX 3090 at the same 400 W restriction in terms of fps and low 1% - it is just that much more efficient. FYI, the whole loop has 1320x63 rad space, is dead quiet even at max everything and takes in fresh air from a window and actually helps to warm the place just a bit.
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Noice - & according to relativity, you aged more slowly than the rest of us during that flight ! A couple of smaller pics (1/10th of the original 4k .png size): Volocopter in a loop (almost made it too , almost) Gibraltar in two different planes Magical flight in the Icon A5 through the Grand Canyon at night...
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Yeah, depending on the very specific use cases, the 7950X3D can either be a great / or not so great choice. One thing seems to be clear though - asymmetric CPU design (I include Intel's P+E cores in that) are likely here to stay for the desktop...for now, HEDT is another matter.
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...vive la différence, as the French say IMO, the 7950X3D is an absolutely brilliant part, at least for my use-cases - but that is also the point: If you like a 7950X or a 7800X3D or a 13900KS or 13700, there are all kinds of choices which can fit the individual's tastes, budget and use cases. I use these things for both productivity and gaming and for the latter, the games I do spent the most time on use less than 8 cores and also do like lots of cache, so the choice of chiplets management etc. suits me. Per > this and > that, the 7950X3D holds a lot of oc potential and I will likely get one in a little while once other parts I want are available. No rush though as the 5950X I have (spoiler) combined with very fast DDR4 RAM certainly manages to hold its own in 4K gaming - even though the 4090 (and presumably subsequent top end GPU models) can start to experience a bottleneck at 4K via CPUs - but that usually happens well beyond the 4K 120 OLED max anyway, so it matters little for now. I actually would have liked to see a symmetric 16 core top-end X3D model as well (not instead of but in addition to the 7950X3D) for some applications, but as I said, tons of choice. I just like to keep an eye on future upgrade paths and such for mobos / chipsets and also have a power budget due to multiple machines running 24/7 (never mind that 671+W RTX 4090 ) so the 7950X3D is 'on my list' as I never got into LG1700 or the initial AM5 releases.
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Benchmarking: Superposition 4K and 8K
J7SC_Orion replied to J7SC_Orion's topic in Benchmarking General
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Zen 2 Threadripper is a gem per my own experience. The reason why they did not update release the 'regular' Threadripper line with 59xx cores (apart from the hyper-expensive Threadripper Pro) was that there was no competition from Intel in the HEDT segment anymore. In fact, there was already a 'regular' Threadripper 5990X (below), just not available for sale...the workstation market has a different price ceiling and Threadripper Pro pricing works for that. Overall, the desktop space will feel increasing pressure to become more power-efficient - whether with Intel-like P+E asymmetry, or AMD 3dVcache on some but not all chiplets inside a package. We consumers (and OS programmers) just have to get used to the asymmetry. The workstation market though is different and very likely to heat up (no pun intended) with Sapphire Rapids and symmetric Golden Cove about to hit the market - AMD has already confirmed an upcoming Zen4 'regular' Threadripper, now that their HEDT competition is back...those new HEDT by both vendors all have symmetrical cores and power consumption to match (per > earlier thread here) though I expect the new Zen4 AMD Threadripper to be the more power efficient of the two lines.
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Remember when ?...Post your old pc parts pics !
J7SC_Orion replied to J7SC_Orion's topic in Chit Chat General
...another oldie pic hiding on a retired SSD: a rare dual-GPU AMD 8990 OEM w/custom water-block
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...yeah, prime candidate for hammering just a few cores is my fav, MSFS 2020. Graph below (originally from ComputerBase.de) seems to show edge cases such as MSFS 2020 w/ RTX 4090, but I am not sure about the resolution. That sim / app also loves both fast core AND tons of cache. Note the inclusion of DDR5 7200 for the Intel 13900KS...
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Lots of oc secrets still to be unveiled, but with the Ryzen 7___X3D line, async clk seems to be one major avenue. Oddly enough, that takes me back to the good old days of my 'standard' bclk 104.5 with Intel HEDTs (X79,99, Xeon etc). One key will be a really good IMC along with a good set of DDR5, ie. 32 GB Dual Rank low timings 6400
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...I subscribed to SkatterBencher's channel a while back, and he rarely disappoints...though, didn't think that he would release this on day 1. Hopefully, these strategies will also work on the Asus Crosshair X670E Gene (and/or other higher-end Asus 670s)...
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Thanks for that info. I saw DerBauer ogle the Gene when it was introduced and it has been in the back of my mind ever since. A nice set of Dual Rank 2x 32 GB low timing DDR5 would go well with it (or the ProArt). Decisions, decisions...
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How do you like the Asus CH X670E Gene ? If I decide to split the next work + play build more than I originally planned (add a new work-dedicated HEDT), then I could focus a 7950X/3D 'play build' on s.th. like the X670E Gene with 2x 32GB DDR5 sticks...if I do not split the hardware re. functions, then it likely will be the Asus X670E ProArt (dual networking, 2.5 & 10 gb).
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I read that one over coffee at breakfast - quite an impressive summary, as usual for TPU.
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...now that more official / complete reviews have hit such as > Techpowerup's write-up and extensive testing (along with other reviewers on YT such as > Gamers Nexus), there seem to be some decent performance gains of the 7950X3D at much better power efficiency than either the 13900K or even 'regular' 7950X for gaming and productivity averages...of course milage may vary on the exact apps a specific user tends to run the most, but TPU's "Best of Both Worlds" description of the 7950X3D seems pretty fitting. If you already have a LG1700 / 13xxxK, than no need at all to change of course, but if not, then the AM5 offerings make more sense given that LG1700 is due for replacement soon. I should know much more about my own upgrade path within a month or so, not least as there will be some related business systems upgrades as well...but it is likely that at least one 7950X3D will join the fray here - and I am looking forward to it . edit: Level1tech's take on things:
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A glimpse at future GPUs...but will they play Crysis ?
J7SC_Orion replied to J7SC_Orion's topic in Workstation
...while this thread is about the latest and even upcoming workstation (& other) GPUs, including via mGPU 'tiles', and chiplets, DerBauer released a highly interesting video about the last true dual AMD GPU, from 2021 - what a monster ! I'm not a friend of proprietary connections, though... -
I am looking forward to try out the FBW A380...and will try to stay within the speed limit this time. That said, when I took that 747 'for a ride' per pics and your comments before, it was fun to 'feel' the dynamics of that big bird at the limit. No speed limit problems with the Volocopter - hovering above / landing at Grouse mountain ski lodge (we had a ton of snow last night)...
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Firestrike & Timespy Benchmarking Megathread
J7SC_Orion replied to NavJack27's topic in Benchmarking General
...using an automotive example, the $5K Kudan is not just a top-line Mercedes, not even 'just' an AMG, but an AMG Black Series. What I really do like about the Kudan in terms of functionality is that it is set up simultaneously for: a.) air-cooling, AND b.) AIO cooling, AND c.) custom water-cooling w/o having to ever take it apart...but then, for $5K (for the 3090) it is the least they can do ! The 4090 Kudan is supposed to look very similar to the 3090 in the video below....Kudan has a big chunk of the big Chinese market so they should have enough volume buying from NVidia to get the well-binned Ada L cores - apparently, you have to buy a given volume of 'so so' bins from NVidia before you get a few good ones. That is why Galax are always late to the party with their HOF OCL (same for KingPin)...Galax belongs to the Palit group, which is the largest GPU producer (and thus NVidia buyer) by volume. This time around with 4090s, it probably paid to be an early buyer though regarding core speeds around initial review time that followed the mining collapse. Later 4090 purchases should generally have better VRAM though (obviously, there are exceptions) as Micron is ramping up GDDR6X 2GB module production (prior, only the low-volume 3090 Ti had those; the 3090 had 1 GB modules). That is why I asked what production date your Strix was. As the market for this gen 'compartmentalizes', chances of getting a fast-core / lower-$ cost 4090 are slimming, IMO. I also find it interesting that the rather expensive Strix comes in 'OC' and regular flavours. It could be just a money grab, or there may still be that group of sub-zero OCers that are looking for higher leakage GPUs. It scares me though to think what is going on at over 1300 W (Galax OCL) in an N4 die with 76.3 billion transistors during HWBot runs... Regarding looks, even my formerly heavily RGBed and ornamented big > 4090 cleaned up nicely once water-cooled, not to mention shrink a lot in several dimensions. While I typically keep peak Watts well below the maximum 671+W I have seen in ROG Furmark Vulkan with the 'regular' Galax HOF vbios I am running, even at that wattage, temps are fine - and there simply is no noise. I have yet to try that Strix 1000 W XOC vbios I downloaded, but with all the safeties that has removed, no rush... Still, when it gets to bare PCBs, the 4090 Galax HOF gets my vote (also note the 2x 12Vhpwr in the pics below the Kudan 3090 vid)
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...no matter what the accent, at the end of the day, linear algebra is the primary ingredient in Artificial Intelligence. But the folks using AI for their own nefarious purposes is another matter...
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@Bastiaan_NL Gefeliciteerd...! In other words...
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...I'm not the one to talk ...big snowstorm outside , so time to raid the fridge for Sunday morning brunch...'Schinken' plus free-range country eggs, spicy salsa and wholewheat toast (not shown: massive amounts of Starbucks Sumatra synapsis high-test fuel)
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These pictorial pages on The Blue Raven Brothers replace the aging Ravens build-logs-plus other older content that is not quite accurate anymore. Below you will find quick summaries and pics of the ever-changing combos of the two main systems (2 cases, 4 mobos, 6 GPUs) in my home office used for work and play. There will be upcoming hardware changes in the near future (as there always are) so periodic updates to follow...
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