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I am starting this thread to dive deeper into path tracing. I will add some of my own results (quantitative and qualitative) in subsequent posts, but here is a very good video by Gamers Nexus to introduce path tracing and its 'costs' in Cyberpunk 2077 / patch 1.62

...minimum for me now is 16 GB VRAM, and I also use two 24 GB VRAM cards for work + play

...some Cyberpunk 2077 path-tracing... RTX 'Overdrive' 4K / DLSS3 'Quality' / FG / NVR ...first screenshot is shrunk down and converted to jpg, the second pic is full size .png

2 1/2 feet is perfect for 48 OLED - especially with new eye candy below Path Tracing CP 2077 update (Originals are 4K DLSS 3 'Quality' / RTX Overdrive / FG / NVR) This last one is full size .png, revisiting an older 'save', but with RTX Overdrive / Path tracing, DLSS3 Quality / FG / NVR

...sad to see FrozenCPU go - was always happy with them (before, and after their 'sabbatical')

I am also not particularly fond of curved setups. In addition, I find that sitting close to the C1 48, my whole field of vision is filled...has kept me from investing in VR so far.

instead of eyefinity, how about a bendable OLED (once the economy / budget priorities allow for it) ?

...I'm going back and forth between 4K and Ultrawide - that's the beauty of the 48 inch OLEDs...have your cake and eat it, too As a fellow Canadian, you'll know where Ellesmere Island is (brrr, cold); you'll see bits out of the right-side cockpit below (4K this time, unlike Ultrawide above). It looks all a lot better on live-OLED than in a screenie, but still...love the cockpit detail ...and this YouTube vid recently came out - looks simply stunning ! ...as @Snakecharmed and @Sir Beregond pointed out, C2s should be on sale very soon given the C3 update (not much changed)...but no matter what version you get, OLED is very much worth it, IMO.

...easy-to-locate documentation is not a strong suit of Microsoft/Asobo....glad that you figured it out and thanks for posting the steps. Below, somewhere over Ellesmere Island in the TBM turbo-prop

...some 3840 x1620 Ultrawide-mode screens (120hz, 10b, y444) on the C1 48 OLED

...some (original size) 3840 x 1620 UltraWide (10bit, y444, 120Hz) screenies for FS2020 and CP2077. HDR doesn't always work with this on the RTX but it is still gorgeous and interesting in certain scenes / apps.

...yup - that also works on my 6900XT > C1 OLED

...the beauty of the 48 inch LG OLED is that you can turn it into an Ultrawide screen setup, at least with recent-gen NVidia GPUs. I tried this, works flawlessly - and the sheer size of the 48 makes it 'affordable' in terms of screen real estate source

@Andrew ...saw this posted on another FS 2020 thread...looks like some nice April fools extras...

Like other enthusiasts, I can get carried away by nice GPUs and a fast, healthy-oc main system, but at the end of the day, the monitor is the visual interface between 'man and machine' - no sense having a hi-po setup but a so-so screen, IMO. And yes, glossy + OLED makes things pop even more. Then there is the very decent sound the C1 48 puts out on its own (at least if you sit close enough)...never mind connecting a sound-bar that takes advantage of the signal processing. Below are a vids from channels I often watch and use to calibrate things (best to watch directly on YT rather than windowed)...

On the 'glossy' bit, I prefer those 10:1 over the matte finish as long as you can control other lighting sources that could reflect --- in a large-scale open office with a ceiling full of those ugly neon lights, it might be a different story... On size, I saw the 42 inch and 48 inch C2s side-by-side in a store display recently....given my particular home office setup and multi-use case, I still prefer the 48 inch as an 'allrounder'. As posted earlier, I plan to keep the C1 48 OLED until they come out with a 240Hz+ version. The 5+ year old 55 IPS HDR on the other setup (primary GPU for display is the 3090) would be upgraded first, but not until it goes 'kaput'. It has been solid for all these years, even when running for much of any given day.

...water block basically has GPU and VRAM temp very close to each other - not least as on this gen, VRAM is also physically much closer to the core. Add a wallop of thermal putty on the VRAM... Below was at 26 C ambient but w/o water block, VRAM temps would have been warmer ('better') but hotspot would be too high. First pic = water-block, second pic = first boot after card install w/stock air cooler (obviously, different oc settings and vbios as well as lower ambient of 22 C to factor in)

3DM's TimeSpy / Extreme, Port Royal and Speedway are very good tests for VRAM, though memtest_vulkan is a bit more sensitive in picking out VRAM OC that doesn't quite measure up, IMO. Below / bottom screen is the Giga vbios for the 4090 in memtest_vulkan, the Galax HoF vbios is similar. Another interesting test is the ROG Furmark version (I usually set that to Vulkan instead of Open CL). The ROG Furmark also has a built-in artifact scanner ! Note of caution: ROG Furmark can REALLY test the outer limits of your card's power and temperature handling - so best to keep PL at or below 100% - at full bore, I have seen > 670 W on the GPU . Finally, OCCT's VRAM tests is also pretty sensitive. FYI, for the OP's RTX 4090, it is worth remembering that VRAM on that card is a bit unusual - it likes to be warm...around 55 C for best oc performance...so there will be a best 'cold' OC result and a best 'hot' result for VRAM and those can diverge by as much as 100 MHz.

...I have gotten used to the 48 inch size, though I wouldn't want to go any bigger for multi-use that includes 'desktop' work. Per below, I have an older 3xGPU productivity system for rendering and some base ML that is hooked up to a LG IPS HDR 55 inch, but that is just too hard to do any extended typing on, apart from a few program commands. ...Got to like LG quality, though - that 55 inch is 5+ years old and used a lot. Once one has had some extended playtime with OLED, it is really hard to go back to something else (without wanting to sound 'snobbish' about it)....never mind some Dolby Vision HLG HDR native high-res vids I often browse on YT.

... search for ' memtest_vulkan ' on github ...I works great with GDDR6X as well and I use it on my 4090 for both ECC and non-ECC settings. On a typical 4090, memtest_vulkan will draw around 400W + -

Back in June 2021, I picked up my C1 48 OLED to serve as a work monitor, as a gaming display and even as a secondary 4K TV. Here are some of my thoughts on the long-term use: I use the C1 in tandem with a Philips 40 inch VA workstation panel. First conclusion: It is quite amazing how quickly one gets used to the 48 inch size --- I used to think that 40 inch was 'big', but when viewed right next to the 48 inch OLED, it looks kind of puny...that said, for now I figure 48 inch is the upper limit for a multi-use (including work) monitor... There are two separate PC systems powering the C1 OLED, one with a 6900XT, the other with a RTX 4090, though the RTX 4090 is the primary source for the C1. It can easily 'max' the 4K 120 Hz even in more complex apps, such as CP 2077 (= average fps at 4K Ultra/max > 135) or FS 2020 (= average fps at 4K Ultra/max > 135). Even with 'just' 430W (out of 670W max) with the RTX 4090, fps still average at 120+, often even 1% lows are > 120, what with DLSS3/FI/NVReflex etc That said, the 6900XT also gives a brilliant picture experience with the C1, it is just not as fast as the RTX4090. The aforementioned Philips 40 inch VA panel usually is the 'daily driver' for more regular work-oriented tasks on the 6900XT, but it is nice to have the option to switch over - or use both monitors at the same time (great for some more complex work projects). As with most OLED panels, there always is the question of 'burn-in' of pixels when exposed to the same image segment for longer periods (such as game overlays). Because I was aware of that before I purchased the C1 OLED, I have taken appropriate precautions (in addition to LG's attention via software on this)...this includes moving the Windows taskbar position when doing multiple hours of desktop work on the C1. In any case, I have ZERO burn in on the C1 since I got it in June 2021. I also read that some folks think the HDR nits are lowish in the C1. I actually tried the 'EVO panel hack mod', but either way actually turned down HDR brightness. I do have sensitive eyesight to begin with and love the picture the way I set it (below max nits) - and a key for max enjoyment of any OLED panel is, IMO, positioning - I have zero light sources anywhere facing the OLED screen, and all the non-monitor light sources are at the back. Complaints about the C1 ? My biggest one is the LG software and also remote control - it is unnecessarily 'pushy' and also a source of 'big data' collection. Also, because it is a TV as well and connected to a 4K tv-over-internet, one can get quite easily distracted with the TV option while working, but that is not really a fault of the C1. Likes ? Well, that picture quality...perfect blacks, brilliant colours, ultra-fast response times - what is not to like ? It even serves as a sort of 'ersatz' VR because for gaming, I sit quite close and am quite immersed already in the goings-on. Still, I might try a VR set down the line... For now, I am well beyond 'content', what with all the extra headroom I get with the 4090 / C1 4k/120 combo. To get me to upgrade , it would probably have to be a 48 inch OLED 4K / 240 or 8K 120, but that's is quite a ways off, IMO. Currently, I am in that perfect zone where the RTX4090 with all the latest pic generation tech basically both matches and 'maxes' the C1 capabilities with a bit of extra headroom above and beyond. But who knows - I used to think that 21 inch CRT was a giant (and it did weigh close to 100 pounds...), then, 27 inch monitors had the 'wow - that's big' factor. I wonder what I think about the C1 in 5 years time when I unwrap my 88 inch 8K / 360 Hz

...Sunday morning start-tup before going out for Sunday brunch later. Also, no sticks of butter were hurt for this arrangement

...Unreal 5.x on RTX 50 or even RDNA4 will be nice...

That 96 GB CL34 6800 kit looks interesting for a Ryzen 7K build

...a nice step forward (if the drivers keep pace) but I still think Intel needs a halo product to make a real splash, ie. 128 xe-cores with all the trimmings