damric

Thank you so much for that. I've had this problem a few times now over the past few months. I got the machine back up. I think I only lost a few hours. about to be folding again here soon.

Windows forced an update on my folding rig. I'm down a couple hours while I troubleshoot while this computer is not waking up.

It's not just a GTX 960 that is good at this. You should see crazy PPD I'm getting at 20 watts with a GTX 750 and it's set to "no preference". You should ban that card now, except banning cards is dumb.

There is a way to create handicaps without using LARS at all. Determine the multiplier by FLOPS based on stock clock speeds. For graphics cards that information is in the techpowerup database for just about any GPU ever made. CUDA seems more efficient but as long as the categories are split by AMD and Nvidia it shouldn't matter. We would need to find the data for CPUs or use linpacks to determine.

From what I have read on F@H, the server tries to assign WUs as best it can to a processor's ability. If they are sending more Moonshot units to GTX 960s because they are good at it, so be it. We need that Covid-19 research. It's not like anyone here can't buy a Maxwell card on ebay if they wanted to. Tomorrow there might be something that runs better on X GPU. We going to piss and moan over that? As far as I can see, only 1 person broke the rules in the ETF manual, and I sure hope he plugs his machine back in because folding 24/7 all month long is the rules. Just my 2 cents as a folding newbie and veteran overclocker.

I agree LARS is inaccurate. But I think we can take steps to make it more accurate. Make entrants fold at stock clocks for however long to get a baseline before a card can be entered. I use the "no preference" setting, but I don't see how setting it to a specific cause is cheating. Anyone can do that. Anyone can buy an ebay GTX 960 and moonshot all day for all I care. I think limiting 1 Nvidia card per team should handle that. Get rid of the "wildcard" and add a team slot for CPU folding. I don't pull any weight here, just my observations as a folding newbie and veteran overclocker.

What is the proposed rules change? No overclocking? Rules changes affect everyone and might make MORE people drop out, depending on what they are. I'm an overclocker. Folding is just a benchmark to me. I only joined this foray because I thought of it as an overclocking challenge, but as time went on, I got more interested in the folding aspect, and so did the rest of my family. I'm curious as to what other's perceptions were when they read the contest page and the ETF manual here on ExtremeHW. Did some team members think that running a 300W card with 3% OC headroom would be wise for this challenge? The scores have been tracked for months, and once my tweaker card was in working order it dominated, but that was plain for all to see. We also knew that GTX 960s would also be very competitive since they also generally have a lot of OC headroom, especially the models with voltage tuning. I've been researching, and there are some cards that will most probably perform even better in this challenge than HD 7850 or GTX 960. For instance, look at GTX 465. It has been cut down from the GTX 480 die twice over, which eliminates the weakest clocking cores. I would expect more than 900MHz easily, so 50% OC since stock is 600MHz. That equates to more GFLOPS, which powers folding, so it would be 50% more PPD.

Please finish it out. It's wonky, but it's for a good cause.

Yeah I ran the dark mode extension. That's how it got messed up and pushed my GPU ranking so high. I was like oooh dark mode what's this looks cool...doht!

No one complained about my HD 7850 over the last 4 months while running the same 40% OC, and that was with a x73 multiplier. Now it's x56. My points should really be 30% higher if the handicap is based on the PPD from the stock clock shipped with an HD 7850, which is 860MHz, not the 1200MHz I run it now. I have higher PPD cards, but I read the rules and saw that the handicap favors overclocking and that's why I chose my HD 7850. Using one of the newer generation cards that have hardly any headroom would best be used for the 3 day foldathons.

At least we're all folding. I was watching the news tonight and it's depressing but we are at least doing something good.

Considering the rules, I'm not sure why anyone would use a modern expensive card with low OC headroom for ETF. Pre-boost era cards with voltage control, particularly ones based on cut-down dies are the way to go for overclocking and getting the most handicap. There is a particular Fermi card I'm thinking of if anyone can guess.

Mine shows up in LARS as AMD 7800 series Pitcairn Pro, which is the HD 7850. Radeon HD 7800 Series Folding@Home PPD Performance - folding.lar.systems FOLDING.LAR.SYSTEMS F@H Radeon HD 7800 Series performance as of 8/11/2021. Averages across all projects PPD:154,031 - Work...

Oh ok that looks cool. Yes I'm going to have to create one of those soon.

I'm looking at the guide. All the pictures are gone. What is HFM? What is the purpose of HFM?

Yeah... Being the folding noob that I am, I was like wow dark mode... Just folding away minding my own business... * why am I ranked over GPUs that are 2x as fast... Then I read the fine print on the dark mode... Ooops

I just let it choose at default. I see a lot of moon shot, but also a lot of cancer. My biggest problem is my multiplier falling from x73 to x56. Is the same thing going to happen with your 960 driving up the ppd in the database? We'll have to alternate cards every month, but that's going to make us all fold even more so good for the cause I guess.

Bags of sand you have

Do you think those moonshot projects would help Michele? Your GTX 960 is sick and your team is rapidly catching up to mine. I'm constantly looking over my shoulder at you.

Or there is the case of my HD 7850 where I kind of screwed myself overclocking hard before the official start of the competition. I'm thinking I'm going to change my ETF card next month, and fold my HD 7850 at stock for a few months or until whenever it corrects itself. I ordered a GTX 750 (non-Ti) for next month's ETF. As soon as it gets here I'm going to fold it at stock to create a baseline. I don't think it has voltage control so I doubt I'll have another epic overclock percentage but it's something. You guys got me addicted to folding now.

Thanks. I'm pretty sure he has plenty for both of us. About to send him a pm.

I'm interested in buying that from you unless you convince me otherwise.

The IO is better and clocks higher on these. I'd love to see some bench performance comparisons of what can be done with these on good air/water overclocks compared to the non-g to see if raw io speed can make up for less cache.

IR thermometer no, but I should get one. I used this glue that came with some heat sinks. Way more convenient than that Arctic mess that I used to have to mix the two tubes. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08W1Y4NKL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They give you a big tube, worth buying just for that.

I put my ETF rig in my sig for you guys. I left out the graphics card price, but I bought it new for about $150 almost a decade ago lol.