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Agreed.
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Sorry for double posting. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else in this thread, or on the site. Thought I'd clue you guys in to something you may not be familiar with. 1usmus has made two different Power Plans for use with Ryzen that may offer higher boost clocks and performance compared to the stock Windows high performance or Ultimate performance power plans and this is true for older platforms as well (which he made them for). GitHub - neon-dev/Ryzen-Optimized-Power-Plan: Further optimized version of 1usmus' great power plan (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/1usmus-power-plan-for-amd-ryzen-new-developments/) GITHUB.COM Further optimized version of 1usmus' great power plan... That is an older one. The most current version, you can grab here from TPU as well as read his documentation: 1usmus Power Plan for AMD Ryzen - New Developments WWW.TECHPOWERUP.COM Two weeks ago, we released the 1usmus Power Plan for AMD Ryzen processors, which received a ton of attention. Both Microsoft and... When my 7900X3D was actually boosting on the second CCD and not being limited to 5100mhz under any actual workload (waiting for bios fix Asus!!!) , I noticed significantly higher boost speeds using the "Ryzen Optimized Balanced" power plan, which I think is the first link. I was only able to hit around 5300-5400 boosts in 3dmark11 and 3dm Vantage with the Windows high performance power plan and +200 PBO, with the Optimized Balanced power plan I was seeing 5650 on two cores in the 2nd CCD and 5525MHz on the rest. It bounced around a bit but never really went lower than 5400MHz. Anyway, just thought I'd share. Hope this helps.
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FYI hurricane, the X3D chips are voltage and ratio locked. We literally have no voltage or cpu core ratio options in our bios. Only way to control it/overclock is through PBO or CO curves.
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EXTREMEHW Foldathon November 24-26 UTC (3 DAYS!)
neurotix replied to firedfly's topic in Folding@Home
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Well, hope you don't end up losing money if its an auction...
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What did it cost to build?
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Right on. Hope it sells. Lots of bids or no?
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So sorry this happened Ultra. Maybe you need to do it on eBay, or perhaps use social media (FB) to set up a local avenue for doung more volume.
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Start with an all-core CO of -20. That's what's recommended anyway. Hydra is a little overwhelming and confusing at first, so here's how to use it: open it, you will probably see the first tab with a ton of sliders for CO. Go to the "diagnosis" tab and then click "diagnosis" or "run diagnosis" in the bottom right. Then wait for like an hour probably more because you have a 16 core chip. It will test with Cinebench single core CO offsets in the background, I think it also uses Prime95. When it's done it'll have found your CO values and they should all have been automatically added to the first tab, and you can apply them. That's how it was when I used it anyway but as I said, it didn't work for me using the values it found. I'd bsod pretty quickly after applying the CO values.
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E, I would suggest just running 6600MHz/2100fclk as you said it was stable. Higher fclk will be nice and fclk DOES affect memory bandwidth speed (when I tested 2033 vs 2100 I got 3GB/sec faster read bandwidth at 2100) but honestly being at 6600 will make more of a difference in bandwidth than raising your fclk will. If you found settings that are stable and pass everything at 6600, I would kindly suggest sticking with those and printing off your ZenTimings blown up big to use to reenter your settings on BIOS update (I lose my saved profiles every time I update to a new bios and use the printoff to reenter all the settings, dunno if your AORUS board keeps them or not or if you can save bios settings to a profile) The push for more is nice and you've earned my respect, but I learned the hard way with my B-Die DDR5 that it just would not do anything over 6200MHz stably. My current kit will not do anything over 7600MHz stably but I can bench at 8000MHz, wouldn't want to run it anyway because of risk of data/file corruption. So if you've found a sweet spot with 6600MHz I would stick with that.
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I found a link on a Chinese site that had 1.5 something but clicking the link to download it gave a redirect to Baidu, and no download. I wouldn't trust it. Ultimately, beggers can't be choosers. Unless you want to pony up $10 to 1usmus, use the one I just uploaded.
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Here is Hydra 1.3F PRO. Download link expires in 14 days. HYDRA 1.3F PRO WWW.MEDIAFIRE.COM
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My experience with Hydra wasn't so good, I ran the diagnosis and it tested all my cores for CO values, but some were really low like -40 or -50. I tried applying the CO values then moved my mouse and instantly got a bsod. Same thing with doing hybrid oc using the CO values and +200 PBO at the same time. I wonder if the 1.3g version isn't compatible with X3D chips. For some reason I can't get to that website link with the download of 1.3g, it says https is required and it's sending back an invalid cert. I will zip and upload 1.3g after this post. It's 400mb and I can't upload to this site, nor the external host I usually use. It is also 1.3F. Hopefully E got 1.3g from that kemono link already, or maybe its just a problem on my end with my internet atm.
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Think I'm probably going to get a t shirt. What printing method are you using? Dye sublimation this time?
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Yeah, the link I posted will still work fine and accomplish the same purpose. It should also be virus-free. I've heard the 1.5 version downloads you can find may have malware.
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"HYDRA 1.3G PRO (major DCFR update) - RELEASED!" by 1usmus from Patreon | Kemono KEMONO.SU Click the dl link there. You're welcome.
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Awesome. Good going. One suggestion though: I have or could make a lighter version of the icons below the logo, the dark red on black looks like it's not showing up well/not enough contrast with the black mousepad. If you guys think it's fine then no worries, but I have a version of it with a lighter red to dark red gradient on the icons. I could even see about lightening the whole logo too so it isn't as muddy and illegible on the black desk pad (which I might buy )
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Yep. As I said a few posts ago, set it and forget it with your current results, but you did even better. You are probably right; no other ways you can improve it and going to high frequency RAM won't matter on your CPU. What do you use your PC for? If it's mostly gaming, latency matters more than bandwidth but bandwidth does make a difference (it did for me anyway). Btw, these are my current AIDA results if you're curious.
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It is well known for Zen 4 to change tREFI to 65535. On Asus boards (what I have), it gives like 20000GB/sec more bandwidth. That's only on Asus boards but I am unsurprised to see you getting better results with it set that way. Good job
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I don't understand the whole P-Core/E-Core thing, I don't understand their RAM timings, and Z790 is a dead platform so your buddy is going to eventually need a whole new motherboard. I bench and they are way better for benching, especially the older 3dmark benchmarks, 3dm11 and older. However, I wanted to support AMD and while Zen 4 is a marginal improvement over Zen 3+, Zen 5 is supposed to be fantastic so I wanted to have an upgrade route. http://hwbot.org/user/neurotix Intel finished 2nm and 1.5nm fabs in somewhere like Ohio that are due to come online in 2025, Zen 5 will be out by then, and I'll find out if I made a mistake. Personally I would really like to see higher core counts on Zen chips, something like a 24c/48t for $750 and 20c/40t for $500 to replace the 32 and 24 thread offerings now.
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A lot of people neglect inter-CCX latency too. (The time it takes data to cross the Infinity Fabric to another CCD) Though, I am not sure what settings optimize it besides raising fclk. The old Zen 3 Ryzen DRAM Calculator had a inter-CCX latency option to test it with, but I have no idea if it would work with or would be accurate with Zen 4. Nice. 58ns. Too bad my sticks or IMC isn't stable at your speed and timings. However, the difference for me between 7600 and 8000 was like 97GB/sec to 99GB/sec so I don't think I am losing very much performance. As I've said before though, for me going from 6200 to 7600 has made a *big* difference, like 10 more FPS in Forza Horizon 5 benchmark. Higher minimums, higher framerate in Quake II RTX @3440x1440 144hz. I also love the RGB on the ram and it works with Asus' Aura Creator too.
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I *think* maybe Fluxmaven, who also has a 7700x (or did) may also have posted an AIDA with that low of latency. But I don't think Flux follows or posts in this thread. The single CCD chips can get lower latency afaik. But it's looking pretty good to me.
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You're at sub-60ns, that's a really incredible overclock, that's literally like the only AIDA of Zen 4 that I've ever seen with latency that low. I'd set it and forget it and not worry about lowering timings further. That is an excellent overclock and should be great for gaming or anything else you do, assuming it is stable.
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@Hurricane28can you post your AIDA64 again? Also let Windows be booted for at least 15 minutes and you'll get more accurate results as if you do it when you first boot it's still running a lot of background tasks and phoning home etc
