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neurotix
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Also @ENTERPRISEwhen you tried running it in Windows did you run it from an admin PowerShell? Perhaps that is the problem. Also I would turn UAC off if it isn't already.
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This is unfortunate. What distro are you going to be using for a live session? Mint is highly recommended. Also stick to Debian or Ubuntu based distros because other distros may not have stressapptest in their repositories. Also because yum sucks and I only know Debian or Ubuntu based distros, so I won't be able to help with Fedora, Gentoo, etc
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Open Planning Discussion for 2024 EXTREMEHW Annual 2024 Folding Event
neurotix replied to damric's topic in Folding@Home
I think the $10 if the winner wants to claim their prize is a good idea, personally. I'm sure it'll be disagreed with, though. -
Alternatively, you could download the latest Linux Mint Cinnamon, (go down to mirrors and download from one of them) burn it to a flash stick using rufus and as GPT/UEFI. Boot off it and run the same commands in Terminal (should be next to Firefox in thd bottom left of the screen): sudo apt update sudo apt install stressapptest stressapptest -s 14400 -M 32000 --pause_delay 99999999 -W --max_errors 1 It's really that easy, the biggest hassle will be making the flash stick and waiting for it to write.
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GSAT is what professionals use.
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For the first question, no you don't need a Linux VM anymore because of Windows Subsystem for Linux which runs in PowerShell. I've never used it myself so I don't know if it is active by default or if you have to enable it under Windows features, @The Pookwould know more. Second question: no there is not a setup guide, what the Pook gave you IS the setup guide. The "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt install stressapptest" are Terminal commands that install and set it up for you. Then the other command and parameters runs it. I'd suggest trying these commands in Admin PowerShell and see if they work.
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I would highly, highly suggest getting GSAT and doing what @The Pookdescribed above. This is basically the best memory/memory bus test you can run. It is what Google uses to test and validate stability on their cloud servers. Google Stressful Application Test. Being on Linux myself, I ran it there and my 7600MHz 36-45-45-45 oc was stable in it for 3 hours, which is the minimum I would recommend running to check memory stability. GL E.
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Latest picture of Ai Crystal with my new RGB RAM and cooler:
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Gotcha. @J7SC_Orioncan probably help you with that more than I can, as the settings I'm using for my new RAM (M-Die) came from him Personally I would suggest going with kaliz' timings and 2100 fclk, possibly adding some more RAM voltage to maybe lower timings, especially CAS, as much as you can if you are after lower latency. Buying a different kit is always an option too, mind linking me your kit on Amazon?
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Fclk helps a little, yeah, but negligible conpared to CL timings as you already stated. If he could do 30-36-36-36 he'd probably see latency of 62~ns, possibly a little lower. Those were the timings I ran with my B-Die that got me really low latency. I think we still don't know what dies @ENTERPRISEhas. It would be good to see a Thaiphoon Burner report. In my case, with 1.425 mem VDD, 1.35v mem VDDQ, 1.1v VDDP, and 1v VDDG (both) I was not stable at 8000mhz. Should I increase mem VDDQ and try 1.050v VDDG or possibly higher? If I do should VDDP be raised too?
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2133 fclk will probably have no impact on your latency. That is all timing related. Try primaries of 36-36-36-36 if you can as opposed to 40. Then you may see lower latency.
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At 2133MHz fclk? RAM still at 6600MHz?
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Sorry for like triple posting. 8000mhz with 1.1v VDDP and 1.0 VDDG and the looser set of timings was a no-go. Within 15 minutes memtestCL produced like 15 error windows.
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Alright trying 8000mhz with the looser timing set that Orion gave me, 1.0v VDDG, and 1.1v VDDP. Doing memtestCL now. Wish me luck, but I do fully expect it to fail. I think my problem with 8000mhz is that it might be cooling-related; I think you guys (kaliz and Orion) have fans pointed at your RAM, yes? In my case, with full RGB and matching RGB on the memory, I don't want a fan sitting on my GPU pointed at the RAM. The interesting thing is that 8000mhz for me is benching stable: I ran Cinebench, y-cruncher and a few other demanding benches for my hwbot yesterday with the RAM at 8000, and it was fine. No Bsods, crashes in the programs or anything. I imagine it would probably be gaming stable too. However, since my rigs primary use case is a home server/streaming server, I cannot afford to have bad memory corrupt files over time, especially on obscure 80s anime I wouldn't be able to download again.
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Asus Strix X670E-E Gaming Wifi has them both. Weird that you don't have gear down mode. That's pretty standard (and necessary) for RAM OC on Ryzen. Also @J7SC_Orion you said you set VDDG voltages to 1.0v for 8000mhz. Mine were in Auto when I was trying. Think it might help stabilize me? Also what VDDP are you using?
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Open Planning Discussion for 2024 EXTREMEHW Annual 2024 Folding Event
neurotix replied to damric's topic in Folding@Home
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Open Planning Discussion for 2024 EXTREMEHW Annual 2024 Folding Event
neurotix replied to damric's topic in Folding@Home
Wasn't thinking about tying anyone into a recurring subscription, if that's the way it currently works. I am not really understanding what you just posted fully, but if it wouldn't work and would be viewed poorly by our sponsors, then I understand halfway. I thought I had a good idea, but unfortunately not. And it was thought of previously so I'm disappointed I didn't invent the wheel Has anyone suggested having prizes from our store maybe paid for by damric or myself alongside the sponsors prizes, or would that create the same negative situation with the sponsors? -
Open Planning Discussion for 2024 EXTREMEHW Annual 2024 Folding Event
neurotix replied to damric's topic in Folding@Home
Oh okay. Good to know it was already discussed and is not an option, but I still think it should be longer than just a month. Maybe 3 or 6 months. If Enterprise wouldn't agree to it I understand, but I'll reiterate that there's no cost to the site, shipping of a physical item, tariffs or import duties, money spent out of staff's pockets on merch from our store and so on. So it really should be considered more closely. -
Open Planning Discussion for 2024 EXTREMEHW Annual 2024 Folding Event
neurotix replied to damric's topic in Folding@Home
Here's an idea. Why not do like, a year of Premium Gold on the forums and have it available for three people through random drawing? Maybe also do 1x Premium Platinum too? That should probably be free, right? -
I looked into it and it should be ok and possible to run the VDDG voltages at 1.050v or possibly higher. Though maybe kaliz will correct me. Good luck.
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On Zen 3, they recommended (The_Stilt) that VDDG voltages should be 0.40v lower than VDDP. On Zen 4, I have not touched VDDG but I believe @kaliz suggested keeping it below 1v. I think on Auto on my board both VDDG_IOD and VDDG_CCD are around 0.900v. I haven't touched VDDP either but I think the 0.40v under VDDP is no longer the rule. You may be able to get your IF stable at 2100MHz if you look into VDDG and add voltage but I'd keep it under 1v. I know in AIDA64 Memory Read on my setup it is like 3000GB/sec higher with Fclk at 2100 versus 2000. Good luck, I hope this helps. I will look into VDDG on Zen 4 further for you.
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Appreciated. Repped. I think the gains are so marginal, if any at all (according to AIDA anyway), on my setup that I am going to leave it at 7600 with the 'tight' timings. As shown for whatever reason my bandwidth in AIDA was low for 8000 and 7600 nearly matched or possibly outperformed it though I'd need to check them side by side. 7600/2100 fclk is stable in memtestCL to 2400% task scope on 24 threads, as well as 3 hours GSAT stable in Linux. I think to get 7800 or 8000 stable the timings would need to be increased significantly causing higher latency and thus, 7600 with your set of tight timings would outperform it. Thank you so much for all your advice and help.
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As I suspected, the looser timings @ 8000MHz failed memtestCL with tons of errors within 10 minutes. I think for 8000, I'm going to need timings that are way looser, but it may be better to stick with the tight timings @ 7600MHz. About to start GSAT on it now.
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Thank you. I know 100% that my fclk is rock solid at 2100MHz. The looser timings helps too, but they don't seem that different from the others excepting the tRFCs. I'll give it a shot but I doubt it will be stable. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but it seems like my board and these DIMMs like 7600MHz and looking at the two AIDA's I just posted, there isn't really that much of a difference besides slightly higher latency and it seems like the bandwidth readings are actually higher in AIDA at 7600MHz vs the 8000MHz I posted. Thank you again though. I'll try giving the looser timings a shot but I doubt they'll be stable at 8000.
