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Just did this with a per-CCX overclock of 4800MHz on CCD0 and 4500MHz on CCD1 with 1.35v. My post code readout showed temps being 75C, I think I might be able to break 24k if I OC CCD0 to 4850 or 4900 and add a bit more voltage.

Hey Sir Beregond, did you ever get around to this? Getting Aida64 and running the memory test. Still wondering why my copy bandwidth is so low and since I believe you said you run your RAM at the same speed as me, I am very curious if your copy bandwidth is higher or not.

@Sir Beregond

12 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

What BIOS/agesa are you using? I'm still on an older BIOS, but newer from when I got the board (also purchased early on).

 

I'm on BIOS 3801 for now as its been solid. Supposedly newer BIOSes broke some stuff, so been waiting.

Pretty sure I am also on 3801.

Just now, Sir Beregond said:

No way. Extreme Tweaker works awful on my board, and most would advise using AMD Overclocking over the Extreme Tweaker menu. I definitely get better results/scores using that menu vs Extreme Tweaker for my PBO settings. I don't know why yours seems to be the opposite.

Well, if you want to mess with per CCX Overclocking, it's always there.

8 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

No way. Extreme Tweaker works awful on my board, and most would advise using AMD Overclocking over the Extreme Tweaker menu. I definitely get better results/scores using that menu vs Extreme Tweaker for my PBO settings. I don't know why yours seems to be the opposite.

I don't blame you, you have a good OC and got a Cinebench score much better than mine (by like 2k points)

I myself am unsure why PBO in the AMD menus doesn't work for me. I got my board fairly early after launch of x570 so maybe that's why, who knows.

4 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

Thanks for those, that does help. I'll have to take a look when I get home from work today.

It shouldn't give you any trouble, just disable all your manual PBO settings in AMD Overclocking. I don't think you even need to turn PBO off or anything as using this feature overrides it. Just don't set a manual voltage anywhere else, set it where it says "Core VID" in the Per CCX menu (otherwise you can end up overvolting the chip). Save your current oc to a profile or something first if you haven't already.

EDIT: You can get much higher Cinebench scores overclocking this way vs using PBO. At least I did on my 3900x when it was at 4.4/4.2 instead of PBO.

Just now, Sir Beregond said:

Well I think E has an Asrock, not an ASUS board, so I imagine there's ways to do it outside of ASUS specific menus that are dubious in effectiveness from one board to another.

Well, see my last post. I took pics for you. I am almost 100% certain it is nowhere else as its a board vendor feature.

Here. @Sir Beregond

1 minute ago, Sir Beregond said:

Man I avoid Extreme Tweaker menu like the plague. I'll see if I can find the equivalent in AMD Overclocking.

There is none. I'm pretty certain of it. Only in the Extreme Tweaker menu. It's a feature specific to certain boards, I know Asus boards have it but unsure about others.

21 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

Dang. There's no way my 5900X can even sustain 4.6GHz all-core with that low of voltage. But maybe I should try separate CCD OC's like you did. How did you go about doing that?

Its in the Extreme Tweaker menu right underneath where you can do a manual all core oc. Should be labeled something like Manual CCX Overclock. It is a submenu there  Leave your board's voltage on Auto and set the voltage in the Manual CCX Overclock menu.

7 hours ago, Avacado said:

That is an easy answer, buy more tech. Some of the best fun to be had is with much older gen stuff. It can also yield some of the highest points for benching. If you are REALLY after serious points, you are going to have to start Vmodding. 

Thanks, yeah I know buying old hardware for next to nothing then benching it is a good way to get a lot of points.

Unfortunately we have far too much in storage right now, and I have a large collection of game systems and games.. my personal storage area is already full and I have stuff I need to sell, some of it is game consoles (like my Xbox, 360, Wii, backup Super Nintendo, backup Sega Saturn, etc.) So I'm not really looking to add a bunch of old motherboards, processors and memory to it all too.

I'm getting really sick of waiting on Microcenter to get stock of 4090s, and even then I might not get one, but I'm waiting on that to bench which should get me a good amount of points.

Thanks for the advice though.

2 minutes ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Quick answer for this question: the bot only counts 10 competition submissions, 15 global submissions and 30 hardware submissions for the season. You have 956.9 points for this season which seems correct looking at your stats. As for the career points, the bot counts 30 global submissions and 60 hardware submissions, that's why you have 1639 career points. 

Take a look at the points tab on your profile and open every tab there for more info.

Ok, good to know. I basically wasted my time doing all that on the 3060 then. Still, it was fun to bench it.

So does it basically just count the highest scoring subs then?

Also please fill me in on your suggestions to get me more points because I really want them, >;)

6 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Im using 1.29v :). I have hit the OC wall on this CPU as I would need far too much voltage to get higher clocks and the temp spikes are too much.

Ok. That'll probably be too low for mine. Yours has more cores available than mine so yeah the heat would require exotic cooling.

3 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Well, with respect to my 5950X, I can achieve 4.7Ghz on CCX0 and 4.5Ghz on CCX1. 

 

So I reckon what you are looking to achieve on your 5900x is realistic.

What voltage you using for that? That's the variable I'm unsure about.

On 09/12/2022 at 16:55, ENTERPRISE said:

Great work on the bot bud

Thanks. There's still points to be gotten and areas to improve in, in particular my 5900x score in Cinebench. I got better results on my 3900x doing a manual per-CCX overclock with the first two CCX at 4.4 and the second two CCX at 4.2 with 1.33v. With the new chip (5900x) I just used PBO and all cores were boosting to 4750MHz. The result in R23 was around 21k. Sir Beregond posted his result elsewhere and did 23k in R23, but he was using curve optimizer and got his chip to all core boost to 4850..

Problem is I have no clue where to start with a manual CCX oc on this chip, also it only has two CCX whereas the 3900x had four. I'm thinking 4850MHz on CCX1 and 4400 on CCX2 but have no idea what voltage to try, and cooling it will be an issue with just a 360mm aio.

Anyway thanks for the encouragement Enterprise.

Edit: anyone have an answer for why the bot isn't updating and showing all the HW Points I got benching the RTX 3060? Pretty much every bench I ran gave me 5-6 hw points and I did like 20. For the season rankings, before I did them I had 492 hw points and now it updated and says I only have 500 when I know for fact I earned at least 80 hw points...

19 hours ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Hey @neurotix, you are doing a great job on the Bot!
I'd like to hang out some time, do you have Discord? I've got some idea's to improve specific scores, which could mean a lot of extra points

Besides that, I really enjoy seeing all those results pop up in my feed

Thanks man. Yeah I have Discord but we found out recently that the microphone on my 10 year old Logitech headset doesn't work.

Also, regarding the RTX 3060, I borrowed that from my wife's rig (she finally got an upgrade from a R9 380x, basically a glorified 7970, after 7 years). We are unlikely to pull it out and put it back in my system... We actually had a bunch of issues putting my 1080tis back in with DisplayPort not working at all and my board giving us POST codes. Then my wife tried HDMI and found out it worked but my monitor has FreeSync and does 144Hz which you can't do and doesn't work over HDMI. What finally fixed it was flashing the DisplayPort controller with an update that Pascal and Maxwell cards require for DP 1.3 and 1.4 features (which is something we already did when I first got the monitor)

On top of that I have severe chronic pain and just had a back surgery, one of the conditions is not bending at the waist so my wife did all the card swapping etc. I can't work on rigs basically. After the fiasco getting the 1080tis to work its very unlikely she'd be willing to mess with my rig again. However, if you have suggestions for benching the 2x or 1x 1080ti or the 5900x, I'm all ears.

The other thing is both our rigs are not very bench friendly since we gotta put on rubber gloves to remove the glass side panels etc. Theres other reasons too like needing to bend the aluminum mounting bracket on the end of a card with pliers to get it in and out of my case. It looks pretty and all the cables are on the back side but working on it is a PITA

However, thanks for taking notice and the encouragement, currently waiting for stock of 4090s at Microcenter and I'm after the Gigabyte Gaming OC version if we can get our hands on one.

I really appreciate you taking notice, thank you. Currently waiting for the bot to refresh/update standings since I got at least 80 hw points benching the 3060, it also got me a bunch of gold cups (hence why I benched it in my rig for the physics score instead of hers with a Kaby Lake i5)

38 minutes ago, Avacado said:

It can be time consuming, however that format is the same on every forum. Even on OCN, you have to list under the appropriate sub-section for what you are selling. This site has a 2% transaction fee that contributes directly to operating costs from sales completed here. You could perhaps list a bulk deal, like multiple radiators for example under cooling and sell as a lot. 

Yeah I was thinking since Enterprise added a peripherals section (Thank you @ENTERPRISE,) I could do all my keyboards I'm looking to sell in one post, at least.

I suppose you are correct about OCN having the same setup for the marketplace there. I am also aware of the 2% commission, but unsure of how it works. Is there a payment app built into the site we use or something? Or are we supposed to use something like Paypal in pm's and then once the deal is done, transfer the 2% to a site account?

Thanks for your reply.

Edit: I'm also wondering if there could be a simple "other" section as well. I have an OCN hat and folding@home t-shirt I'd like to sell (though this site is made up of former OCN users that got sick of what happened to the site so...) Just for nostalgia sake as collectors items.

18 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

I will look to add more categories , however as of this evening I have added Peripherals, Monitors & Games Consoles. 

 

 

Does that mean I have to list everything individually instead of in one long post? If that's the case I will probably pass..

Hey, I'm looking to offload a couple of mechanical keyboards, a monitor, and possibly a game system (PSP Go). Maybe some vintage video games too. However, there isn't an "other" section for stuff like this or multiple types of items in one post. I am wondering where to put my advert or if a new section could be made for listings like this?

Thanks

Whoa didn't think this would get so heated, haha. (Sorry)

I had a 5GHz FX-8350 and 2x R9 290 Tri-X at one point and measured the system running Crysis 3 with my Kill-a-watt meter and it was something like 950w, lol. So it could be worse. I was in a basement though, and I used to fold and mine on those things so it helped warm it up down there.

Anyway, thanks Orion for clarifying things for me. I thought the 12-pin adapter took two 6-pin connectors and the new connector just changed the pin arrangement or something but apparently it just takes one 8-pin connector. I'd look into getting custom cable mod cables made but given the age of my PSU, it's unlikely they could do it. It is also not easy accessing my PSU as tons of cables are in the way, I should post a pic of the back side of my rig, it's pretty insane. I'd actually need to disconnect power cables from drives, my 24-pin from my mobo, unscrew the screws holding the PSU to the case, etc to be able to access the back of the PSU.

Of course, I gotta get my hand on one of the things first though.

I'd love a hat personally. Since there's interest and so forth I will eventually get around to making some designs with the logo and see what people think.

Enterprise pm'ed me these when I asked and since someone offered to make stickers, here you are:

Is there any EHW merch available like hats or T-shirts with the logo?

I'm pretty good with graphics design and could come up with some t-shirt designs if there's any interest in it.

@ENTERPRISE

So I'm interested in a RTX 4090 as I think the next generation of cards is going to be even more expensive and the top end card in the 5000 series will probably be $2000 at this rate. My dual 1080tis (which are still damn relevant and a good setup if a game supports SLI, but I play Forza and it doesn't) cost $1600 in 2017 so spending about that on a RTX 4090 that is more than twice as powerful as the two 1080tis seems worth it.

I know a few forum members have gotten their hands on one, I'm wondering how. I saw someone say that B&H Photo "offered" them one. Does this have to do with the waitlist if you make an account? My wife looked into it and said it would just be an email notification when one was in stock. She also told me they had stock somewhere online and they all sold out within 4 minutes of being available. I've/we've been checking our local Microcenter daily and she made an account to be able to reserve one if they are ever available. What's the best way to acquire one and where have owners of one here gotten one?

My second question is about powering the thing. I have a Cooler Master V1000 (Seasonic unit) that is about 10 years old but rock solid. It obviously does not have the newfangled 12-pin PCI-E power connector. However, it has two cables each ending in two 6+2 pin connectors. I know they include an adapter with most 4090s, what I'm wondering is if I should connect a 6-pin from one cable and a 6-pin from another cable instead of connecting two 6-pins off of one cable. I've heard the card can draw 600w under load (not sure if that's true or nonsense) and I seriously doubt a single cable would provide enough power. I am concerned about a single cable and attaching two 6 pins, power supply gurus would know more about this than me. Take a look at pictures of my rig in other threads to see what I mean- my current setup has two 8-pins connected to each 1080ti (which draw maybe 350w each under intense loads like Fire Strike Ultra or Time Spy Extreme). So if it's not clear, if I manage to get my hands on a RTX 4090 should I connect one 6-pin from one cable and another 6-pin from the other cable to the adapter so I don't overload my PSU? (Concerned about it shutting off under heavy load and overloading my 12v rail)

Thanks for any replies.

Just wanted to say to everyone, thanks for sharing your experiences with this and I hope everyone gets the care they need medically to have less pain and better quality of life.

41 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

I think you are both correct. It does seems to be an ASUS-specific firmware issue. Everything functioned correctly with the 12900KS on the Z690 Dark Kingpin mobo and the 13900K currently installed in it has no issues like the ASUS mobo does. Thank you both for the replies.

 

Since my previous post I installed openSUSE Tumbleweek with kernel 6.0.8-1 and several things changed, some better and others worse. I am planning to try Linux Mint "cutting edge" distro to see if it is better. Mint has always been one of my favorite distros anyway.

 

 

Yep, Mint is nice and has a nice selection of window managers to choose from with it's different versions. I personally use it because of Timeshift- system restore for Linux. I've needed to do it a few times after updating the kernel because I have this persistent issue since I run SLI cards where on shutdown, it hangs and gives an error "Xorg: failed to idle channel 2" requiring me to press my rigs reset button. (using Nouveau drivers)

Also, your guys desktops look nice but ewww I hate KDE (up until 2021 I was still using Gnome 2 with compiz-renewed or whatever its called. Emerald themes are awesome.) I was actually using mainline Debian but they still use kernel 4 and I don't like that they use Firefox-ESR so Firefox never gets updated. Pretty bad. But I do like Debian not being tied into Canonical and its better if you're a power user, god help you if something breaks with it though.

Either way I think you need to try Mint, the rate at which updates come out is rather annoying but maybe theres a higher chance of your issue being fixed.

What monitoring tools are you using and what are you doing that requires you to monitor the frequency?

Getting HWBoints for the team, I've pretty much run out of benchmarks I can run for my new CPU that give globals and redid 3D benches that give globals. Maybe I'll run the entire 3dmark suite (Cloud Gate and Ice Storm and all that that don't give globals):