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Yeah, that's pretty cool that you built your own switches back in the day before anything besides Cherry was available. What I'm wondering specifically is about the Kailh Pro Light Green clicky switch vs a Box Jade in terms of feel and weight. Like is a Pro Light Green just a Jade that's not box and rated for more lifetime key presses or something. In which case it would be a waste to save my junk food money for a few months to build a new board with Light Greens. You mentioned Box Royals, this is another switch I am interested in and curious about. I believe they are Box Royal Purples or am I wrong? I read from some sources that the Box Purple are BOTH tactile and clicky. But I am unsure if this is true. If they are just tactile I am not interested, but if they are tactile and clicky it's something to consider. Also wondering about clicky switches from any other manufacturer I'm unaware of.

No experience with Kailh Pro or recommendations for any other clicky switches though, Flux?

I have a board with Box Whites (try these sometime), Box Jades, Box Navies, Box Pink and Box Pale Blue. Like 6 boards between my wife and I. This is why I'm asking about others.

What should we do then? 2000 and before stuff only? Also, do you have any retro game systems you'd want to join the club with, or just commenting?

They're still pretty worth it imo.

What @UltraMegasaid works. 10 years, no PS4/Xbox until they are officially unsupported.

Yes. The closest comparison I can make is that they are like the brand Under armour (at least when I've felt their stuff clothes shopping, don't own anything by them) If you're always hot, they'd be awesome. If you're always cold like me, gonna have to put an open zip hoodie over it or something.

Agreed with everything.. I think we will keep the 10 year old rule and let people list a PS4 or Xbox One but *only* the originals, not the pro models. I do agree though on 15 years and 360/PS3/Wii actually being retro, but since this club is for fun I'll allow the original PS4/Xbone. PC wise, I started the hobby around 2009 and started with a Phenom II x2 that I unlocked to x4 and OCed. I think that is retro now given it can only really run games up to about 2014-2015 but does poorly at it, stuff like Just Cause 2 ran great on it. I agree with pio in that respect, nobody is capable of playing modern games on a FX chip or a 2600k.

Good points, especially pio. Thanks. I'm sure Pook will disagree if he sees this. Now we just gotta see what axipher thinks.

What would everyone agree is considered retro or not? Pook, @UltraMega@axipher@pioneerisloud How old does a console or PC need to be to be considered truly retro? 10 years was what people generally agreed on and wanted at OCN, but if everyone reaches a consensus or we all agree on a mutual time, it can be changed. My vote is for 15 years.

Some vaporwave.

So I got my two shirts today. I did finally hear back from Enterprise and he said the shirts are being printed with dye sublimation, as opposed to iron on that was previously used and eventually fades and flakes off in the wash. Sorry about the bad photos but I had to use the wide-angle camera to fit the whole shirt in the picture, I got 2XL and they are huge, and hang down over my waist quite a bit. However a 1XL would probably be tight around my belly so, gotta compromise. The print is amazing, especially on the folding shirt. However, I am a bit disappointed with the material used. It is 100% polyester which makes it really stretchy but also too thin. They are probably twice as thin as a cotton tee. I know in the summer when walking into a grocery store is like walking into a freezer cause they have the a/c so low, I may need to wear these with an open zip up hoodie or something. Otherwise, they are great. 4/5 stars. Love the print quality but wish they were thicker. I can't wait to wear them when it warms up.

Hey, Does anyone have experience using Kailh Pro switches? I am interested in other clicky switches, the Kailh Pro Light Greens are one of the few Kailh clicky switches I haven't tried. I am open to suggestions for other switch manufacturers, I heard something about Glorious Panda switches and also Halos? Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

Agreed. But I have to make these exceptions for the reasons I stated.

I go by 15 years personally but if people want to add those consoles, I would not object. However, they must be the original severely underpowered (lol) PS4 and Xbox One, not the Pro models. Flux has a liquid cooled PS4 listed, as an example. Also, retro to me really is 80s and 90s gaming consoles, but I gotta account for 18 year olds now who grew up on PS2, N64 is a huge one, Xbox 360 and original Xbox, etc. They are all stuff from their youth and they're adults now, so it would be kind of unfair. The PS4 and Xbox One aren't really retro, they're just older gen.

Nice dude!

So, FF9 and Golden Sun for the two of you. I tried to get into Golden Sun at one point and didn't care for it. I would have to recommend playing FF6 and Chrono Trigger to both of you if you haven't. However you can play it Personally I think its a toss up between those two, though FFIX would rank top 5 on my personal list as well. Xenogears is fantastic despite the lengthy text and slow pace. It is also quite difficult compared to all these others. Not unmanageable but you'd probably want to use a walkthrough. If you can deal with the slow opening it gets really good eventually. And this is supposed to be about best JRPG of all time, excluding personal favorites, if that wasn't clear. (As stated, FFIV is my personal favorite followed by Xenogears).

Ultra and Axipher, what are your guys votes for best JRPG of all time? Putting away your bias for FFIX. FFVI (the one with Kefka and Terra, Locke, Sabin, Cyan etc.) is generally regarded as the high point of the series. Chrono Trigger is a masterpiece in every regard. I personally think its a toss up between those two but I can't decide which is better. Also, either of you play Xenogears? Man, the story in that is crazy...

Next time I replay that game, I will definitely use it. Thanks for the explanation. Any love for FF7? Last time I played that game I beat the whole game, including beating Ruby and Emerald Weapon, in 42 hrs. What do you guys think of the FF7 Remake?

Favorite genre is JRPG for me as well. FFIX is fantastic, we got the Switch version last year and I helped my wife through it. We laid in bed for multiple weekends playing it. She loved it. (Our bed can be raised with a remote and we raised the head up. 55" on a dresser.) However, my favorite game of all time is FFIV on SNES (aka Final Fantasy II back in the day), even if its not the best FF. (The best overall is definitely VI, this is pretty well agreed upon I think.) Read through this thread, Ultra posted something interesting called FFIX Moguri Mod that runs in an emulator and upscales the backgrounds using AI for FFIX. I need to look into this myself and try it out but I've beaten that game and gotten every chocograph treasure etc like 10 times and just played it with my wife so... I have a SNES flashcart and need to play FFIV Namingway Edition which is supposed to be the definitive translation of FFIV, better than the bad J2E translation of that game from around 2000.

Added to the club, good sir. That's a very nice collection, but there's no Sega stuff lol! (I'm a huge retro Sega fanboy). Around how many games do you have? What is your favorite system and game for it? What's your favorite genre, and favorite game of all time?

We have T-shirts in the store now and quite a variety! Enterprise made it seem like we wouldn't have shirts for a few months in this thread like two weeks ago, but we do now! I got a simple logo shirt and a mid gray and red folding@home shirt that I designed, when its warmer out I will be wearing these in public and at physical therapy appointments and so forth to advertise the site! https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/ExtremeHW?ref=seller-platform-mcnav

An addendum: regarding modern games, I love Forza Horizon 4 and 5. They're so much fun. I like the rally races a lot. I really only play those on my PC (3440x1440 144hz FreeSync Premium HDR400). I also play a very old MMO (well it's sort of an MMO) called Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst which is basically a Dreamcast game ported to PC with expansions and much more content than the DC version. (I guess PSO qualifies as a retro game though).

I don't play very many modern games though I have like 80 or so I got that I need to play. I played Tomb Raider 2013 a few years ago and cleared it though it frustrated the s--- out of me with cheap deaths etc. I have Rise and Shadow and need to play them. I have a PS5 and I love the beat 'em up genre and got Streets of Rage 4 and thought it sucked. I also got the Ninja Turtles game for it and thought it sucked, too and would rather play my copy of Turtles in Time for snes. Since the PS5 is backward compatible and I never had a PS4, I have like 10 or so PS4 games I bought on discount for it that I need to play. Uncharted 4. Yakuza 0. Etc. all physical copies. I will check out the Ghost in the Shell movie, I remember that being a big social justice warrior crapstorm and I agree 100% with your opinion and yes, the Japanese didn't care. If you haven't, watch the anime Gunnm aka Battle Angel Alita. Its only two 50 minutes episodes or something. They made a Hollywood movie out of it called Alita: Battle Angel and James Cameron was trying to get a movie made out of it for like 20 years. The movie, I thought, was fantastic despite the "uncanny valley" thing with Alita being CGI. James Cameron didn't direct it but was heavily involved and it's pretty awesome and despite some changes its a really good Hollywood adaptation.

Not been playing anything. I finished Cosmic Star Heroine for Vita a few months ago. If you like JRPGS, I highly recommend it. It's not that old, made by a Western developer, and is fully pixel art graphics similar to FF6 in quality. It should be available for Switch or PS4. It was pretty fun. My brother bought me another similar game called Sea of Stars, also on Switch, for Christmas. That will probably be what I play next. I also need to get and play Octopath Traveller. I've been doing more reading and watching movies of a futurist or cyberpunk nature as research for a novel. So I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, 1984 and Brave New World+ Brave New World Revisited.