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[damric]

10 minutes ago, BWG said:

 

I folded my 960 right with ya oc'd. You're still smashing everyone.

Do you think those moonshot projects would help Michele?

 

Your GTX 960 is sick and your team is rapidly catching up to mine. I'm constantly looking over my shoulder at you.

[firedfly]

10 minutes ago, damric said:

Do you think those moonshot projects would help Michele?

 

They might.  I have some old Quadro P400 cards that normally do around 30k ppd.  They get about 90k ppd on some of the moonshot projects.

[firedfly]

1 hour ago, Ducrider said:

It could be like @BWG has a 960 that has put out 43 work units in just a few short days.  Hmmmmm.....  something wrong here.  

My 960 is currently doing about 35 work units a day with the covid moonshot projects.  That likely explains the larger number of work units.

[Ducrider]

1 hour ago, firedfly said:

My 960 is currently doing about 35 work units a day with the covid moonshot projects.  That likely explains the larger number of work units.

Tell me how to get those. 

[firedfly]

9 minutes ago, Ducrider said:

Tell me how to get those. 

In FAHControl, go to the configuration screen, Advanced tab and set the Cause Preference to COVID-19.  That is pretty reliable right now on getting those projects.  Though, it does vary.

 

[Bastiaan_NL]

That's the P13456 which is doing so good? Cause on my 2080Ti it ruins the PPD..

[tictoc]

58 minutes ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

That's the P13456 which is doing so good? Cause on my 2080Ti it ruins the PPD..

 

The wee little units are not good for more powerful GPUs.  There is some development going on for the next client that is looking to give more fine grained controls to the work server when distributing WUs.

[Bastiaan_NL]

21 minutes ago, tictoc said:

 

The wee little units are not good for more powerful GPUs.  There is some development going on for the next client that is looking to give more fine grained controls to the work server when distributing WUs.

Yeah, I heard something about that. I hope they find a way to make everything work
Besides that, there is not much to complain about. The cards pick up pretty good units most of the time, my EOC stats are from the 2080Ti and a 3090 24/7 and a 3070Ti was online for 24 hours the past 7 days.

[firedfly]

1 hour ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

That's the P13456 which is doing so good? Cause on my 2080Ti it ruins the PPD..

P13457 on the 960.  Has a tpf of around 24 seconds on that card.  I've never seen it on my faster cards.

[Bastiaan_NL]

Funny, I haven't seen that one on my better cards either. Might fire up the laptop and configure it for covid too, record for the GTX 850M

[BWG]

Multiple users are experiencing failed work units that appear to be a bad batch of work units. The problem appears to be fixed by restarting the client. You may want to check your etf rigs.

[damric]

OMG. I think I fixed it.

 

Ok so I noticed I lost some coolant from my reservoir on my ETF rig when I also noticed it was OFF. I pulled it apart last night and this morning. After looking it over it appeared that it leaked from a loose hose right on the CPU block (probably because I adjusted the frame's feet on Thursday and shook it around). I cleaned up the board but it still wouldn't act right. I suspected it leaked directly into the CPU socket, though it was hard to tell because it must have been a tiny amount of coolant and it must have evaporated quickly. The coolant I use is mostly distilled water, but it's most definitely conductive because of the metal additives I mixed. The titanium dioxide left a little white residue on the plastic socket cover where it dried. I knew I had to get that AM4 socket guard off so I could inspect and clean any residue. I've never been able to remove one of those without breaking it, but at this point I figured I already broke the mobo and maybe the CPU so what the hell might as well try. I watched a video or two on youtube where this little girl carefully takes a precision screwdriver to remove the plastic socket cover, and she made it look so easy. 5 minutes later I'm looking at plastic fragments of what used to be my socket cover  but yes, there was some coolant stain on the metal socket connections. I cleaned them off with a fancy toothpick brush and some 91% isopropyl alcohol. I also cleaned the CPU pins. Next I took that CPU and what was left of the plastic pieces of socket cover and just kind of mashed it all together hoping for the best. I stuck the aluminum piece of a wraith stealth (I took all the fans off and use these for other stuff) on there, connected the power cables, keyboard and monitor, and jump started it with a screwdriver and bam into the BIOS we go. I dodged another bullet I think. I need to go ahead and assemble the rest of it, but while it's still mostly apart I'm going to clean my radiators really good.

[Bastiaan_NL]

Though it sucks that there was a leak in the system and the cover broke, it is a kinda funny story to read. I'm glad you could get it into bios again and I hope for the best when you have it up and running again

[damric]

7 minutes ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Though it sucks that there was a leak in the system and the cover broke, it is a kinda funny story to read. I'm glad you could get it into bios again and I hope for the best when you have it up and running again

Trust me I laugh at all of it, because there are funny parts everywhere. Poor Michele. She felt so bad that she went and bought me a new work light since my old one got lost. I think she went and bought me like 3 or 4 small presents today when she went out shopping. That light came in handy for inspecting the PCB.

 

When I went to look at my radiators, man they were caked with dust, another hose fitting slipped out. I guess I'm lucky I didn't have disaster sooner with these cheap vinyl hoses. I just pulled the whole loop apart since it already drained on the floor 

 

I'm going to wash and flush everything and I threw out all of that trash vinyl hose. I'm going to get something a bit sturdier.

[Bastiaan_NL]

That's so sweet of her, and those work lights are really nice when working on hardware! 
I have one with a C-clamp, I just clamp it to whatever works best and I upgraded the bulb for a LED one which makes it even better
 

Now I know the fittings I use are really expensive, but I'm so glad I've done that if I hear about leaks and hoses slipping. I need to knock on wood but I've never had a single leak.

As for the dust, you might want to look into some dust filters for those rads. Yes they restrict the airflow a bit, but they are really easy to clean. My ETF system has filters on every intake which I clean once every 2 weeks, and I can't see any dust inside.

 

Good luck with all the work you have left

Edited August 21, 2021 by Bastiaan_NL

[tictoc]

If you want to keep it on the inexpensive side, just use barb fittings with clamps, or even zip ties, with how low the pressure is on PC water cooling loops.  Many modern day water cooling components are just pretty garbage that's priced high, since it's a "premium" hobby.

 

Personally, I like monsoon free center  fittings, since I have found the barb side to be slightly overbore and/or the collar to be underbore.  They also have a double barb which helps to ensure that the tube is properly compressed against the fitting.  This makes them harder to snug all the way down on most EPDM or ZMT tubing, but in the many fittings I've installed (many hundreds at this stage) I've never had one leak.

 

 

[damric]

1 hour ago, tictoc said:

If you want to keep it on the inexpensive side, just use barb fittings with clamps, or even zip ties, with how low the pressure is on PC water cooling loops.  Many modern day water cooling components are just pretty garbage that's priced high, since it's a "premium" hobby.

 

Personally, I like monsoon free center  fittings, since I have found the barb side to be slightly overbore and/or the collar to be underbore.  They also have a double barb which helps to ensure that the tube is properly compressed against the fitting.  This makes them harder to snug all the way down on most EPDM or ZMT tubing, but in the many fittings I've installed (many hundreds at this stage) I've never had one leak.

 

Yeah I never have had problems with good old barbs with zip ties. I'm probably going to go back to using those. The cheap vinyl seems to have become too soft, though it's never been overheated or anything. I'm going to check out better materials when I rebuild.

 

[BWG]

On 21/08/2021 at 19:47, tictoc said:

If you want to keep it on the inexpensive side, just use barb fittings with clamps, or even zip ties, with how low the pressure is on PC water cooling loops.  Many modern day water cooling components are just pretty garbage that's priced high, since it's a "premium" hobby.

 

Personally, I like monsoon free center  fittings, since I have found the barb side to be slightly overbore and/or the collar to be underbore.  They also have a double barb which helps to ensure that the tube is properly compressed against the fitting.  This makes them harder to snug all the way down on most EPDM or ZMT tubing, but in the many fittings I've installed (many hundreds at this stage) I've never had one leak.

 

 

 

If you make a Monsoon FanBoys club, they will come...

[damric]

When your ACX fans disintegrate, you got to pull out the Wraith Stealth fans.

 

[BWG]

Now we know your inner deepest darkest desire is to be on team rat's!

[damric]

14 minutes ago, BWG said:

Now we know your inner deepest darkest desire is to be on team rat's!

Hah, I was going to post it in EVGA FTW fanboys.

[damric]

@BWG @zodac @Supercrumpet @firedfly @tictoc 

 

Question on the ETF manual rules for hardware swapping, 1x with hardware failures.

 

If your hardware fails and you switch to a back-up card, can you switch back to the original card once you get it in working order? Would that charge you any hardware swaps or would you still be able to do one more swap?

 

Example:

 

My HD 7850 rig exploded last month so I switched over to my Vega 64. That was a freebie swap, right? What if I cleaned up the mess and want to switch back to the HD 7850? Does that charge a swap or would I still have 1 more swap not due to hardware failures?

 

[BWG]

1 hour ago, damric said:

@BWG @zodac @Supercrumpet @firedfly @tictoc 

 

Question on the ETF manual rules for hardware swapping, 1x with hardware failures.

 

If your hardware fails and you switch to a back-up card, can you switch back to the original card once you get it in working order? Would that charge you any hardware swaps or would you still be able to do one more swap?

 

Example:

 

My HD 7850 rig exploded last month so I switched over to my Vega 64. That was a freebie swap, right? What if I cleaned up the mess and want to switch back to the HD 7850? Does that charge a swap or would I still have 1 more swap not due to hardware failures?

 

 

Yes. The 1x swap from working hardware to new hardware is the only limitation. Defective hardware swapping would not be included in the 1x provision, and would be unlimited, but multiple times within a month might require proof of it being defective.

[tictoc]

Is anyone folding on the same GPUs they were using back in the day on OCN?  I can't get my 980 stable at the same clocks, but I think it might just be the newer CUDA WUs are a bit more demanding and less tolerant of the clocks I was running on it before.

[tenchimuyo93]

On 07/09/2021 at 20:37, tictoc said:

Is anyone folding on the same GPUs they were using back in the day on OCN?  I can't get my 980 stable at the same clocks, but I think it might just be the newer CUDA WUs are a bit more demanding and less tolerant of the clocks I was running on it before.

 

Still have my 9600gso in the parts closet. Would need to diy a cooler for it though.