wccftech Valve’s Steam Officially Ends Support For Windows 7 and Windows 8

[ozlay]

They should remove all the games that wont work on win10 or higher then. I just purchased a bunch of retro games during their sale. And half of them didn't work on win11.

Edited January 8 by ozlay

[pio]

42 minutes ago, ozlay said:

They should remove all the games that wont work on win10 or higher then. I just purchased a bunch of retro games during their sale. And half of them didn't work pn win11.

But if they did that, they'd be taking content away that people have paid for. -_-

Not that it matters, since they've nerfed the capabilities of making them run anyway by taking support of old OS's away.

I think they should refund people who have bought titles that only work on older OS's, regardless of if they take them away from the store front (since they don't work) or not.  Personally.  I know I wouldn't be so upset over this kind of crap if they gave me my money back.

Edited January 8 by pioneerisloud

[UltraMega]

On 07/01/2024 at 18:36, pioneerisloud said:

But if they did that, they'd be taking content away that people have paid for. -_-

Not that it matters, since they've nerfed the capabilities of making them run anyway by taking support of old OS's away.

I think they should refund people who have bought titles that only work on older OS's, regardless of if they take them away from the store front (since they don't work) or not.  Personally.  I know I wouldn't be so upset over this kind of crap if they gave me my money back.

You had mentioned the idea of a non valve handle shipping with steam OS before in the thread. Looks like that's happening. 

 

Ayaneo Next Lite is the first Steam Deck competitor built on SteamOS

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Chinese manufacturer Ayaneo is bringing the first non-Valve handheld system based on SteamOS to market...

 

 

[pio]

Update:

 

Valve will no longer allow Steam to even be installed on older CPU's now, its not just a Windows 7 thing.  They are now actively blocking Steam installations on Linux on older machines too.  This actually is now directly effecting me, and youtube content I was preparing to make (playing games on old rigs).  Literally cannot play games, I've paid for, on hardware that's officially supported by the game now.

[schuck6566]

4 hours ago, pio said:

Update:

 

Valve will no longer allow Steam to even be installed on older CPU's now, its not just a Windows 7 thing.  They are now actively blocking Steam installations on Linux on older machines too.  This actually is now directly effecting me, and youtube content I was preparing to make (playing games on old rigs).  Literally cannot play games, I've paid for, on hardware that's officially supported by the game now.

I was gonna suggest maybe using GOG Galaxy to access your steam games after merging/intergrating the accounts but it's requiring windows 8.0 now also. Sorry.

[bonami2]

6 hours ago, pio said:

Update:

 

Valve will no longer allow Steam to even be installed on older CPU's now, its not just a Windows 7 thing.  They are now actively blocking Steam installations on Linux on older machines too.  This actually is now directly effecting me, and youtube content I was preparing to make (playing games on old rigs).  Literally cannot play games, I've paid for, on hardware that's officially supported by the game now.

I ran windows 8 on a pentium D am sure windows 11 too. What kind of game?

[pio]

52 minutes ago, bonami2 said:

I ran windows 8 on a pentium D am sure windows 11 too. What kind of game?

Steam itself will not launch on CPU's missing the CMPXCHG16b instruction set now.  This is NOT a requirement to play games I've purchased on Steam, but it is a requirement to launch the Steam client itself now.  Just tried on Socket 939 with Kubuntu last night.  The system itself was snappy and quick enough to daily drive even (as a dual core with DDR400).  But nope, can't install Steam even on Linux anymore.

I was actually planning on recording a BeamNG.drive session on the Socket 939 system soon, that's why I was prepping the system for Steam on Linux, since Windows 7 Steam doesn't install on anymore.  This is a system I've literally played the game on before just fine.

Edited March 11 by pio

[bonami2]

2 hours ago, pio said:

Steam itself will not launch on CPU's missing the CMPXCHG16b instruction set now.  This is NOT a requirement to play games I've purchased on Steam, but it is a requirement to launch the Steam client itself now.  Just tried on Socket 939 with Kubuntu last night.  The system itself was snappy and quick enough to daily drive even (as a dual core with DDR400).  But nope, can't install Steam even on Linux anymore.

I was actually planning on recording a BeamNG.drive session on the Socket 939 system soon, that's why I was prepping the system for Steam on Linux, since Windows 7 Steam doesn't install on anymore.  This is a system I've literally played the game on before just fine.

 

What about their legacy steam? Someone will probably find a hack or something. This instruction junk is not needed on a game launcher seem like someone paid them....

 

Is beam ng on epic store?

[pio]

7 hours ago, bonami2 said:

 

What about their legacy steam? Someone will probably find a hack or something. This instruction junk is not needed on a game launcher seem like someone paid them....

 

Is beam ng on epic store?

It's not JUST about BeamNG.drive, its about EVERY game I've bought and paid for on Steam, that I am no longer ALLOWED to play because Steam claims the CPU is too old falsely.  I literally have damages from this, and it sucks because there's not a lawyer around that'd probably touch this case.

[iamjanco]

Old news these days, but likely even more relevant today than when it was published seven years ago:

 

Valve is not your friend, and Steam is not healthy for gaming

WWW.POLYGON.COM

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The illusion behind the "Good Guy Valve" reputation

Valve is... (source^)

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A company which will spend what has to be millions on legal fees to avoid having to pay you $15 in refunds, but which isn't “evil.” A company which exploits, underpays, deceives, obfuscates and refuses to cooperate at nearly every turn, but would never be caught dead doing “evil.”

 

This is the Good Guy everyone seems too afraid to call out, the toxic friend who is so popular that upsetting him will just make things worse for you, so you convince yourself he's really not that bad and that everyone else is over-reacting. Once the Good Guy illusion has disappeared, we're left with the uncomfortable truth: Valve is nothing more than one of the new breed of digital rentiers, an unapologetic platform monopolist growing rich on its 30 percent cut of every purchase — and all the while abrogating every shred of corporate or moral responsibility under the Uber-esque pretense of simply being a "platform that connects gamers to creators.”

 

The imaginary Gabe, the one in our memes, is a cultural defense mechanism, a happy fiction we all invented to make us feel better about the fact that we were, and remain, willing partners in installing PC gaming's biggest, most opaque, exploitative monopoly — one which we know deep down doesn't care about us at all.

 

Maybe it's time for all of us to wake up.

 

Spoiler

 

Edited March 11 by iamjanco

[LabRat]

EHW Gonzo Journalist Update: 
It's not *just* Windows support; Win10x86 and Linux will not save your old games.

 

@pio has tested Steam on Linux (Kubuntu), using a Socket 939 Dual-Core Opteron 180 CPU. Unfortunately, just like Windows 8.1-> 64-bit, the Steam Client itself now requires "CMPXCHG16B" (as well as x86-64/AMD64 and SSE3).

In addition to these new onerous hardware requirements, Valve cannot even properly prompt the user to resolve the issue!
Valve's error message upon attempting to open the client reads as follows:

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Error: Sorry, this computer's CPU is too old to run Steam.

Steam requires at least an Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Opteron, with the following features:
- x86-64 (AMD64) instruction set (lm in /proc/cpuinfo flags)
- CMPXCHG16B instruction support (cx16 in /proc/cpuinfo flags)
- SSE3 instruction support (pni in /proc/cpuinfo flags)

This is notable, due to the fact @pio was using an AMD Opteron CPU at time of receiving the error. Even Valve Software is completely and utterly ignorant and incompetent in the impact and scope of this change to its userbase.
 

Sadly, this means that all games sold on Steam that were compatible w/ systems @ time of sale, are now no longer compatible with their listed system requirements.

In my objective opinion, this change from Valve Software constitutes damages to the longest-time and Core customer base of Valve Software's Steam digital distribution platform. Many of us have hundreds of dollars in games, purchased-during and ran-on the hardware listed in the system requirements.
This is easily the most anti-consumer move from Valve Software, we've seen yet.

Contractual Purchases have been violated, and the damages are easily-defined.

I personally look forward to any Legal Action regarding this completely unnecessary and burdensome scenario,

precipitated entirely by Valve Software.

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*Possible* band-aid workaround for Linux users:

Steam not run. Error: Sorry, this computer's CPU is too old to run Steam. :: Steam for Linux General Discussions

STEAMCOMMUNITY.COM

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Steam client version (build number or date): - Distribution (e.g. Ubuntu): opensuse-tumbleweed 20200501 64-bit Opted into Steam client beta?: No Have you checked for system updates?: Yes CPU: Xeon L5420...

(thanks SteamUser x_wing)

Edited March 12 by LabRat
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