Intel's next-gen desktop CPUs have reportedly leaked

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Intel's next-gen desktop CPUs have reportedly leaked — Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 series have same core counts as Raptor Lake Refresh, but fewer threads

From Tom's Hardware

Intel's next-gen desktop CPUs have reportedly leaked

 

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Same amount of cores as Raptor Lake Refresh but without the Hyper-Threading.

 

Chinese news outlet Benchlife claims to have insider information on Intel's upcoming Arrow Lake processors, which will battle it out with the best CPUs on the market. Intel will purportedly market the next-generation chips under the Core Ultra 200 series branding, with 13 alleged SKUs in the works. 

 

After 15 years of utilizing the Core i series branding, Intel transitioned to the Core Ultra branding with Meteor Lake. Whether we like it or not, the new terminology for product branding is here to stay. Instead of expecting something like the 15th Generation, Arrow Lake will debut under the Core Ultra family, the first desktop chips to do so. The current rumor is that Intel will launch Arrow Lake as the Core Ultra 200 series since Meteor Lake has already taken the Core Ultra 100 series.

 

According to Benchlife, Intel has prepared 13 SKUs for Arrow Lake. The Core Ultra 200 K series (125W) and non-K series (65W) lineup reportedly feature three models each. There's a possibility that the non-K counterparts may have different model numbers, unlike in the past, when Intel just dropped the 'K' suffix from the model name. Meanwhile, the Core Ultra 200 F series (125W and 65W) and Core Ultra 200 T series check in with two and five SKUs, respectively.

 

Arrow Lake is rumored to feature a chiplet design, much like Meteor Lake, consisting of a compute tile that houses the processor cores. It's still a hybrid design with P-cores and E-cores, which have logically been upgraded since Raptor Lake. According to early speculation, Arrow Lake may combine Intel's Lion Cove P-cores with Skymont E-cores. If the rumors are true, Arrow Lake may not feature Hyper-Threading, so seeing how that affects performance will be intriguing.

 

Intel will likely release the Core Ultra 200 K-series processors first. That means we could see the introduction of the Core Ultra 9 285K, Core Ultra 7 265K, and Core Ultra 5 245K, which are likely the successor to the Core i9-14900K, Core i7-14700K, and Core i5-14600K, respectively. The core count for Arrow Lake is identical to their Raptor Lake Refresh predecessors. For instance, the Core i9-14900K and Core Ultra 9 285K offer 24 cores. The layout is the same, albeit the eight P-cores with 16 E-cores, as seen on the flagships.

However, the most noteworthy change is the lack of Hyper-Threading on Arrow Lake. So, while Arrow Lake delivers the same amount of cores as Raptor Lake Refresh, it doesn't have the same number of threads. Arrow Lake seems to have 25% to 30% fewer threads than Raptor Lake Refresh. The PBP (Processor Base Power) values for the Core Ultra 200 K series remain unchanged at 125W. We don't have the clock speeds for Arrow Lake yet, so it's impossible to project what kind of performance we can expect. If you believe in Intel's internal projections, Arrow Lake seemingly delivers up to 21% higher performance than Raptor Lake and up to 2X better iGPU performance.

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[Avacado]

Sigh,

 

Leaked, leaked, leaked.... Yea, all these leaks feel purposeful. I used to get excited about upcoming releases, now they just tick me off and I find myself waiting for reviews and not wanting to read about the hype anymore. 

[pio]

  On 09/05/2024 at 15:49, Avacado said:

Sigh,

 

Leaked, leaked, leaked.... Yea, all these leaks feel purposeful. I used to get excited about upcoming releases, now they just tick me off and I find myself waiting for reviews and not wanting to read about the hype anymore. 

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Of course the leaks are on purpose.  Marketing at its finest right here.  

I don't understand Intel's core and thread count stuff they've been pulling to be honest.  P and E cores, hyper threading only on part of the cores, I just can't keep up.  AMD is definitely keeping their CPU designs a lot simpler to understand anyway.  I just hope these new CPU's run better, I've been reading a lot of people having problems with the 14900's and heat.  AMD's Ryzen 7000 series runs quite warm too.  We're about at that point where something's gotta change in the manufacturing now, reaching the point of limited returns.

[The Pook]

 same TDP?

 

RIP prospect for lower power consumption (inb4 tdp =/= power consumption reeeeeee)

[Fluxmaven]

  On 09/05/2024 at 15:49, Avacado said:

Sigh,

 

Leaked, leaked, leaked.... Yea, all these leaks feel purposeful. I used to get excited about upcoming releases, now they just tick me off and I find myself waiting for reviews and not wanting to read about the hype anymore. 

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I'll show you some hardware to get excited about... 

 

Back to the topic on hand... Between the confusing name change and thread counts, I'm expecting AMD to be the hero this gen with 9000 series. Which I will likely buy. 

 

I also don't get as excited about hardware news these days. When we finally broke away from quad core CPUs, I was blown away. Now high core counts are just expected. 

 

Before people call me some AMD shill, I was almost exclusively Intel + Nvidia for the past 20 years and still own 3x more Intel CPUs and 2x more Nvidia GPUs than AMD.